Planning Commission - 02/14/1983 AGENDA
,,:den Prairie Planning Commission
Monday, February 14, 1983
7:30 p.m., City Hall
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Chairman William Bearman, Virginia Gartner, Robert Hallett,
Dennis Marhula, Liz Retterath, Grant Sutliff, Hakon Torjesen
STAFF MEMBERS: Chris Enger, Director of Planning
Kate Karnas, Planning Secretary
Pledge of Allegiance--Roll Call
I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
II. APPROVAL OF JANUARY 24, 1983 MINUTES
III. MEMBERS REPORTS
IV. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
A. PETERSON DEVELOPMENT, by Eugene Peterson. Request for
Preliminary Plat of 0.65 acres into two lots. Located east
of County Road #1 and State Highway #169/212 intersection
and south of Pioneer Trail Road. A public hearing.
B. AMERICAN BAPTIST HOMES. Planned Unit Development District
Amendment of Lake Idlewild PUD to include proposed American
Baptist Homes Corporate Office Building site of 1 acre and
existing American Baptist Homes Interim Use site of 1 acre,
Preliminary Plat, and Rezoning from Rural to Office, with
possible variances, for the American Baptist Homes Corporate
Office Building site. Located north, south, and east of
Lake Idlewild. A public hearing.
C. PAX CHRISTI CATHOLIC CHURCH. Request for Planned Unit
Development District Review of 38 acres; Rezoning from Rural
to Public with 25 acres for a church of approximately 19,200
sq. ft. and 13 acres for park land. Located north of County
Road #1, west of proposed Homeward Hills Road Extension. A
public hearing.
V. OLD BUSINESS
VI. NEW BUSINESS
VII. PLANNER'S REPORT
A. Grading of SW Schooner Boulevard--Revised Plan
B. Agricultural Land Uses--Commercial Stables
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION
Monday, February 14, 1983 7:30 p.m., City Hall
MEMBERS PRESENT: Acting Chairman Hakon Torjesen, Virginia Gartner, Dennis
Marhula, Grant Sutliff
MEMBERS ABSENT: Chairman William Bearman, Robert Hallett, Elizabeth
Retterath
STAFF PRESENT: Chris Enger, Director of Planning
Kate Karnas, Planning Secretary
Pledge of Allegiance--Roll Call
I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION was made by Gartner, seconded by Sutliff, to approve the
agenda as submitted.
Motion carried--4-0-0
II. APPROVAL OF JANUARY 24, 1983 MINUTES
Gartner asked that Item 4A. Red Rock Ranch development proposal
include a statement regarding the fact that a wildlife count was yet
to be completed by DNR for purposes of the amended Environmental
Assessment Worksheet.
MOTION was made by Gartner, seconded by Marhula, to approve the
minutes of the February 14, 1983 meeting as corrected.
Motion carried--4-0-0
III. MEMBERS REPORTS
None.
IV. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
A. PETERSON DEVELOPMENT, by Eugene Peterson. Request for
Preliminary Plat of 1.35 acres into two lots. Located east
of County Road #1 and State Highway #169/212 intersection
and south of Pioneer Trail Road. A public hearing.
Staff reviewed the request of Eugene Peterson for the proposed
development and reviewed the Staff Report of February 11 , 1983 with
the Commission.
Planning Commission Minutes 2 February 14, 1983
DISCUSSION
Gartner questioned whether the lots were properly sized. Planner
Enger explained that the platting of the land was precipitated by
the realignment of County Road #1 and Pioneer Trail in this
vicinity. He pointed out that even though the road had created a
physical separation, the parcels were still one until subdivided.
Due to the fact that the subdivision involved a roadway, it was not
possible for Staff to handle the subdivision administratively.
Mr. Peterson stated that he had reviewed the comments of Staff and
had no objections to them. He added that it was not his intention
to build until sewer and water were available to the site.
Currently, they were not. Mr. Peterson stated that he had
discovered that the City had, at one time, considered the extension
of sewer and water to his site. However, at the time of the
feasibility study, other affected property owners decided not to go
ahead with construction because of the cost. Mr. Peterson stated
that, should the petition fail again, he would like to maintain his
right to petition for a variance to build upon the property without
• public utilities.
Acting Chairman Torjesen opened the public hearing for comments from
members of the audience. There were none.
MOTION 1 :
Motion was made by Marhula, seconded by Sutliff, to close the public
hearing.
Motion carried--4-0-0
MOTION 2:
Motion was made by Marhula, seconded by Sutliff, to recommend to the
City Council approval of the preliminary plat of the Peterson
Development, based on plans dated December 2, 1982, and subject to
the recommendations of the Staff Report dated February 11, 1983.
Motion carried--4-0-0
B. AMERICAN BAPTIST HOMES. Planned Unit Development District
to include: 1 Amendment of Original Lake Idlewild Planned
Unit Development Development Plan; 2) Rezoning from Rural to
Office, with possible variances on a one-acre site for the
Proposed American Baptist Homes Corporate Headquarters
. Office Building; 3) Continued Interim Use of Existing
American Baptist Homes Building as an Office for 3 years,
and Preliminary Plat of the one-acre site proposed for
American Baptist Homes Corporate Headquarters Office
Building. Located north, south, and east of Lake Idlewild.
A public hearing.
• Planning Commission Minutes 3 February 14, 1983
Staff reviewed the request of American Baptist Homes for the
proposed development and reviewed the Staff Report of February 11,
1983 with the Commission.
Tom Heiberg, the proponent, reviewed the history of the project with
the Commission, explaining the reasons for the requests for
amendment to the previous Idlewild Planned Unit Development, and the
relationship of the new requests to the previously approved plans.
He also discussed in greater detail the condominium arrangements to
be made for ownership of the property, as well as recreation
advantages which would be afforded the owners of the condominium
offices.
The major changes from the previous PUD included the following: 1)
Reorientation of the parking areas; 2) The former clustered approach
to the buildings had been changed to three single, larger
structures; and, 3) Activity and orientation of the site was changed
to focus more on the lake.
Mr. Heiberg stated that, at this time, American Baptist Homes would
also like the City to consider the extension of the Interim Use site
• for another three-year period. (The current approval expires May,
1983.)
DISCUSSION
Marhula questioned whether the proposed development would have
negative effects upon the lake. Planner Enger stated that, while
Lake Idlewild is designated as public waters, it is not subject to
the scrutiny of the City's Shoreland Ordinance. The pond basically
exists for the purposes of containing storm water run-off.
Gartner questioned what the height of the structures would be upon
development. Mr. Heiberg responded that the buildings would be two
stories in height, with underground parking.
Regarding the parking provided on-site, Mr. Heiberg pointed out that
the site provided for 524 spaces, excluding the area designated for
"future parking" in the southeast cornier of the site.
Mr. Bob Kooiman, 7936 Eden Road, stated that he felt the improvement
to the property would be an asset to the area, and that he looked
forward to completion of the development.
Acting Chairman Torjesen questioned what the current zoning of the
Interim Use site was. Planner Enger responded that the land had
• received a first reading for Office zoning, subject to conformance
with plans submitted at the time of rezoning. The proposed plans
were not in conformance with the approved plans submitted
previously.
Mr. Heiberg reviewed each of the recommendations of the Staff Report
of February 11, 1983, indicating that the proponents would be
• Planning Commission Minutes 4 February 14, 1983
willing to comply with the majority of the City's requests.
Marhula questioned whether the American Baptist Corporate
Headquarters would be included in the condominium association which
would be created for the other buildings within the proposal . Mr.
Heiberg stated that they would.
In further discussion with the proponent's representative, the
Commission requested additional information be submitted to clarify
the requested amendments to the previously approved Planned Unit
Development, as well as clarification of the current requests.
Marhula specifically requested elevations of the existing streets be
added to the plans already submitted for better comparison to the
surrounding properties.
MOTION
Motion was made by Marhula, seconded by Gartner, to continue the
public hearing in order to allow .the proponent time to supply
requested additional information.
• C. PAX CHRISTI CATHOLIC CHURCH. Request for Planned Unit
Development District Review of 38 acres; Rezoning from Rural
to Public with 25 acres for a church of approximately 19,200
sq. ft. and 13 acres for park land. A public hearing.
Planner Enger explained that proponent had asked for postponement of
the item to the March 14, 1983 Planning Commission agenda, at which
time preliminary platting would also be part of their request.
MOTION
Motion was made by Marhula, seconded by Gartner,to continue the
public hearing for the Pax Christi Catholic Church proposal for
Planned Unit Development District Review and Rezoning from Rural to
Public to the March 14, 1983 Planning Commission meeting.
Motion carried--4-0-0
Acting Chairman Torjesen declared a ten-minute recess at 8:40 p.m. ;
the meeting was reconvened at 8:50 p.m.
V. OLD BUSINESS
None-.
VI. NEW BUSINESS
None.
VII. PLANNER'S-REPORT
A. Grading of SW Schooner Boulevard--Revised Plan
. Planning Commission Minutes 5 February 14, 1983
City Engineer Eugene Dietz presented the revised grading plans for
SW Schooner Boulevard, explaining the revisions in greater detail to
the Commission. He also explained the necessity of the project to
the overall City plans for thoroughfares in the area.
DISCUSSION
Sutliff questioned how the crossing of Purgatory Creek would be
accomplished. Engineer Dietz explained that it would be
accomplished with culverts. He added that the Parks, Recreation,
and Natural Resources Commission had suggested a bridge be
constructed, similar to the City West Parkway and had asked for a
cost comparison of such a plan.
Acting Chairman Torjesen questioned why this was a City project, as
opposed to the developer of the land taking on the full cost of
construction of the roadway. Engineer Dietz stated that this was
due to excessive costs of involved with this particular road
construction:
Acting Chairman Torjesen stated that he felt it would be appropriate
to await the time when the developer would install the road with his
own funds, instead of the City building the project. He added that
he felt the City had done enough "spec" road building in this area
and preferred the land owners to initiate the construction.
MOTION:
Motion was made by Sutliff, seconded by Gartner,to recommend to the
City Council approval of the revised grading plan for Southwest
Schooner Boulevard per the plans presented and dated February 14,
1983, based on the Staff Report from the Director of Public Works
dated February 3, 1983.
Motion carried--3-1-0 (Acting Chairman Torjesen voted against)
B. Agricultural Land Uses--Commercial Stables
Staff presented the proposed Ordinance amendments to allow and
regulate commercial stables within the City and asked for Commission
comments at this time. A public hearing would be scheduled at a
later date after further refinement of the proposed documents.
DISCUSSION
Upon review of the proposed ordinance, it was suggested that a
variance procedure be built into the proposal . Commissioners also
• asked for clarification of various items including the definition of
"M.U.S.A. Line" as to allowance of such uses within the outside of
said line, and distance necessary from existing residential
subdivisions. There was consensus of the Commission that there may
be appropriate locations within the M.U.S.A. Line for commercial
stables and a variance procedures should be added to the proposed
Planning Commission Minutes 6 February 14, 1983
ordinance to deal with such amenities.
Planner Enger stated that Staff would bring back the additional
information at a meeting in the near future.
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
Motion to adjourn was made by Gartner, seconded by Sutliff.
Acting Chairman Torjesen adjourned the meeting at 10:25 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
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Kate Karnas
Planning Secretary