Planning Commission - 10/25/1982 AGENDA
Eden Prairie Planning Commission
Monday, October 25, 1982
7:30 PM, City Hall
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Chairman William Bearman, Liz Retterath,
Hakon Torjesen, Virginia Gartner, Dennis
Marhula, Grant Sutliff, Robert Hallett
STAFF MEMBERS: Chris Enger, Director of Planning
Sue Hilgers, Planning Secretary
Pledge of Allegiance - Roll Call
I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
II. APPROVAL OF SEPTEMBER 27, 1982 MINUTES
APPROVAL OF.00TOBER 12, 1982 MINUTES
III. MEMBERS REPORTS
IV. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
A. VALLEY PLACE OFFICES PLAT, by G.S.J. Development. Request
for preliminary platting of 4.1 acres, 5 lots zoned Office
District, with variances to be reviewed, by the Board of
Appeals to allow office condominium buildings. Located at
9971-9979 Valley View Road. A public hearing.
V. OLD BUSINESS
VI. NEW BUSINESS
VII. PLANNER'S REPORT
A. Chapters 11 and 12 of Eden Prairie City Code.
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION
approved
Monday, October 25, 1982 7:30 PM, City Hall.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Acting Chairperson Liz Retterath, Hakon
Torjesen, Grant Sutliff, Virginia Gartner,
Dennis Marhula, Robert Hallett
MEMBERS ABSENT: William Bearman
STAFF PRESENT: Stephen Sullivan, Assistant Planner
Sue Hilgers, Planning Secretary
Pledge of Allegiance - Roll Call
I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Gartner moved to approve the agenda as submitted. Sutliff seconded,
motion carried 6-0.
II. APPROVAL OF SEPTEMBER 27, 1982 MINUTES
Gartner moved to approve the September 27, 1982 minutes with the following
correction: _
P. 3, Motion 2, Discussion, 1st line, after 139, add 'units' .
Sutliff seconded, motion carried 6-0.
APPROVAL OF OCTOBER 12, 1982 MINUTES
Gartner moved to approve the October 12, 1982 minutes with the following
corrections and/or additions:
P. 3, 5th para. , 3rd line, 'site' should be striked, and insert 'residential
area to the east'
6th para. , add to first part: 'Sutliff stated he felt that two
entrances would not be proper and'
add this para. after Motion: Torjesen stated he had reservations on
denying the request without looking at the various recommendations and
contingencies the proponent would have to meet as listed in the staff
report.
P. 5, 7th para. , 2nd line, upt should be 'put'
8th para. , 2nd line should read: should be shown in the best interest
of the community at large.
P. 6, 2nd para. , change address to: 10356 Balsam Lane
5th para. , VanMorell should be VanRemortel
7th para. , first line, after the word 'the' insert: details of the
PUD prior to the Guide Plan change . . .
P. 8, Motion 3, Discussion, 2nd para. , 2nd line, delete the words 'to pay'
Torjesen seconded, motion carried 5-0-1. Retterath abstained.
.approved
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III. MEMBERS REPORTS
None
IV. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
A. VALLEY PLACE OFFICES PLAT, by G.S.J. Development. Request
for preliminary platting of 4.1 acres, 4 lots zoned Office
District, with variances to be reviewed by the Board of
Appeals .to allow office condominium buildings. Located at
9171-9179 Valley View Road. A public hearing.
Sullivan reviewed parts of the staff report dated 10/22/82 and stated that Mr.
Bill Jacobson was present to give the presentation.
Jacobson stated that Donald Scheff and Charles Garity (both also of G.S.J. Develop-
ment) were present and Brad Fuller. He stated that the project has been built
according to the approved plan. Two buildings are completed to-date. He stated
that the preliminary platting request is based on the current economic situation.
He introduced Brad Fuller.
Fuller stated that the financing for the plan has been approved through industrial
revenue bonds. The house in the center was not. He stated that they have prepared
an easement and covenant agreement for the site.
Garity passed pictures of the two completed buildings to the Commission Members.
Sullivan reviewed the recommendations of the staff report.
Garity pointed out that the percent coverage on the staff report is incorrect and
should be as follows: 10%, 30%, 16%, 17%, for a total of 14% (from top to bottom).
Marhula asked if the reason for doing this is to convey title to Lot 2 outside the
condominium plat. Garity replied that they want convey a portion of it now instead
of waiting possibly three years before the Bond Council can give them the go-ahead
on selling portions of the property as condominium units.
Marhula asked if Lot 1 will be maintained as a rental office. Fuller
replied yes, until they are allowed to convert.
Marhula asked if Lots 3 and 4 will be built as condominiums. Fuller replied that
they hope to do that.
Torjesen asked if they have a buyer for the house. Fuller replied yes.
Torjesen asked when this was approved a year or so ago, was it a single plat.
Sullivan replied that it was only zoned as one parcel .
Marhula asked if this is the same plan as previously approved, only with a
difference in title conveyance. Fuller replied yes.
Torjesen stated he had concerns with Lot 2.
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Sutliff asked if Building E on Lot 2 is the existing house. Fuller replied yes.
Retterath asked if the house is used as an office. Mr. Obrien, who presently
rents the house, :replied yes, and hours are from 10 am to 12 noon to 6 or 7 in the
evening.
Herleiv Helle, 6138 Arctic Way, asked if the parking lot will be used as a public
street. Sullivan replied that the drive will be the drive access for all the
buildings.
Retterath asked how the covenant and easement agreements will be enforced and who
will enforce these. Fuller replied that the agreements will be enforced the same
as a homeowner's agreement, and Valley Place Offices will enforce them.
Sutliff asked if splitting building A from B is needed, if they will return to
the Commission. Fuller replied yes.
Marhula stated that if the proponent wants: to make a condominium out of building
B, they can do it administratively.
Torjesen asked if there is any advantage foii.. the City in having Lots 3 and 4 platted
now. Fuller stated that if they want to build buildings on Lots 3 and 4 at some
time in the future, they cannot do it without returning.
• MOTION 1
Gartner moved to close the public hearing. Sutliff seconded, motion carried 6-0.
MOTION 2
Gartner moved to recommend to the City Council approval of the preliminary platting
of 4. 1 acres, 4 lots zoned Office District, with variances to be reviewed by the
Board of Appeals to allow office buildings as per the plans dated 10/13/82 and the
staff report dated 10/22/82. Marhula seconded.
DISCUSSION
Marhula stated he had concerns regarding the handicap parking spaces provided.
He stated he felt the grade might be too high. Jacobson replied that there are
two spaces per building provided and stated he felt that the grade would be
alright. Marhula stated he felt the actual grade should be looked at when grading
the parking lot.
Motion carried 6-0.
V. OLD BUSINESS
Marhula stated that he felt the Commission should take its time in
reviewing Red Rock Ranch to avoid making any quick decisions. He felt the
land use and Guide Plan change should be reviewed before the PUD. Gartner
agreed.
• Marhula stated he felt that significant changes will be made before the
PUD is finalized. Torjesen agreed.
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Sutliff asked if the Commission should make a recommendation to the Staff
to have only the land use reviewed at the next meeting. Marhula stated
he was not sure if that could be done because of the publication for the
request.
Torjesen stated he felt that Red Rock Ranch's review will be similar to the
review of City West.
Hallett expressed concern regarding the road issue. Torjesen stated he felt
that the road issue is a major Guide Plan question that should be reviewed
at the same time the Guide Plan change is.
Hallett stated he would like Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources Com-
mission's input at the next meeting, if possible.
Marhula suggested the Commission could continue the PUD.
Retterath stated that at the last joint meeting of the Planning Commission
and City Council , it was stated that legal staff was going to be at some
Planning Commission meetings. She stated that there has been no legal
staff attendance since.
Torjesen reported that he has seen more garbage being used as Richard W.
• Anderson's berm on Shady Oak Road and requested that staff check it out.
He suggested that maybe staff could call the County and Watershed District
and have them take action.
Retterath stated she would like an update on the City West plans at the next
meeting.
VI. NEW BUSINESS
None
VII. PLANNER'S REPORT
A. Chapters 11 and 12 of Eden Prairie City Code.
Gartner moved to continue discussion of Chapters 11 and 12 of the City
Code to November 8, 1982. Torjesen seconded, motion carried 6-0.
Sullivan reviewed upcoming items.
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
Gartner moved to adjourn the meeting at 8:43 pm. Torjesen seconded, motion
carried 6-0.
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