Planning Commission - 07/26/1982 AGENDA
Eden Prairie Planning Commission
Monday, July 26, 1982
7:30 PM, City Hall
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Chairman William Beaman, Liz
Retterath, Hakon Torjesen, Viriginia
Gartner, Grant Sutliff, Dennis
Marhula, Robert Hallett
STAFF MEMBERS: Chris Enger, Director of Planning
Jean Johnson, Assistant Planner
Sue Hilgers, Planning Secretary
Pledge of Allegiance - Roll Call
I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
II. APPROVAL OF DULY- 12, 1982 MINUTES
III. MEMBERS REPORTS
IV. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
A. AMERICAN BAPTIST HOMES OF THE MIDWEST, by American Baptist
Homes of the+Midwest. Request for rezoning from Rural to
Office for 1- acres to construct a central office for
American Baptist Homes of the Midwest. Located at 7928
Eden Road. A public Meeting.
B. SUNRISE KNOLLS, by Edward A. Sieber. Request for Compre-
hensive Guide Plan change on 2.1 acres from medium to high
density residential (36 units on 2.1 acres, 17 units/acre) ,
rezoning of 2. 1 acres from Rural to RM 2.5, preliminary
plat approval to divide 2.9 acres into 2 lots (2.1 and
.8 acres) , and a variance for use of wood as an exterior
material to construct a 3 story 36 unit rental building.
Located west of Shady Oak Road and north of Rowland Road.
A public hearing.
V. OLD BUSINESS
VI. NEW BUSINESS
VII. PLANNER'S REPORT
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION
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Monday, July 26, 1982 7:30 PM, City Hall
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman William Bearman, Liz Retterath,
Hakon Toriesen, Dennis Marhula, Grant
Sutliff, Robert Hallett
MEMBERS ABSENT: Virginia Gartner
STAFF PRESENT: Jean Johnson, Assistant Planner
Sue Hilgers, Planning Secretary
Pledge of Allegiance - Roll Call
I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Retterath moved to approve the agenda as submitted. Sutliff seconded,
motion carried 6-0.
II. APPROVAL OF JULY 12, 1982 MINUTES
The following corrections were made:
P. 1,- date should be 12
P. 2, 2nd para. , Bearman replied yes.
P. 4, 5th para. , Hallett asked if St. -John's Drive . . .
P. 6, eliminate Amendment #3 and renumber the rest
7th para. , add 'at this time if there is a secondary connection'
------ P. 7, 3rd para. , Motion carried 4-3 = add Sutliff voted no.
P. 8, 1st para. , strike 2nd line and continue first line to 3rd
line beginning with the word he would . _. Add between at and interim:
an ordinance governing
4th para. , insert between 'the' and 'City' : need for the
Question was raised to the vote on Page 6, 'Vote on Amendment #2'.
This will be listened to on the tape of the previous meeting.
Marhula stated that if the motion vote stands as is, he would like it
down for the record, that he supports the road connection.
MOTION '
Torjesen moved to continue the approval of the minutes to the August 9, 1982,
meeting for the correct vote on page 6, Vote on Amendment #2. Retterath
seconded, motion carried 6-0.
III. MEMBERS REPORTS
None
IV. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
A. AMERICAN BAPTIST HOMES OF THE MID'WEST, by American Baptist
Homes of the+Midwest. Request for rezoning from Rural to
Office for 1- acres to construct a 'central office for
American Baptist Homes of the Midwest. Located at 7928
Eden Road. A public meeting.
Dan Swedberg, Hammel, Green & Abrahamson Architects, representing American Baptist
Homes and Harold Kleinposte, President of American Baptist Homes of the Midwest
were present.
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Swedberg stated portions of the existing structure will be reused. The structure
will be two (2) stories high. The existing structure presently offices approx-
imately twelve (12) employees.___ The proponent uiants a long-term
appropriate use in that area. Additions are planned to the north and south with- -
a roof tieing it all together. Parking will be screened by using the same exterior
material as the building for a fence.
Johnson reviewed the staff report dated 7/22/82. She stated that the metal exterior
material has not yet been approved by the City Building Inspector. She stated that
a soil erosion barrier is important because of the site's proximity to the lake.
The building will be similar to the approved but not yet constructed Lake Idlewild
Offices. She had spoken with the Watershed Engineer who suggested tieing the parking
lot storm water flow into the lake system.
Hallett asked the square footage of the existing building and what will be gained
after the additions are made. Swedberg replied 2200 sq. ft. existing, and a 700
sq. ft. garage. The total additional square footage will be approximately 500 sq.
ft.
Marhula asked if the adjacent property to the east is still a single family home.
Johnson replied ft is vacant and zoned_ 0ffice. Johnson replied that there-are two
single family homes to the west.
Marhula asked if Eden Road will be upgraded. Johnson replied that petitions have
been distributed but have not been returned.
Marhula stated that he felt that at some point Eden Road needs to be improved
and stated that he- hoped the Sheraton would be participants in the assessment
cost. Johnson replied she would check.
Sutliff asked, on the Sheraton site, if they had picked up the single family
to the Loath for additional parking. Johnson replied yes. He then asked if there
are more than two accesses for Sheraton. Johnson replied that she knew of two
hard-surface accesses but was not sure if there was another
Hallett questioned if it is good to remodel a home and make it an office.
Johnson replied that in this case it will be similar in size -to the approved
surrounding Lake Idlewild Offices.
Torjesen stated he felt that a permanent use of office for this site was gooa.
Tom Heiberg, representing Lake Idl:ewild development, asked if the building exterior
will be primarily stucco. Swedberg replied yes. Heiberg asked the color of the
panels. Swedberg replied medium to dark. Heiberg then asked if the buiding will
blend in well with the surrounding brick buildings. Swedberg replied yes.
Bob Kooiman, 7936 Eden Road, asked the next development to take place in the area.
Johnson replied there has been no new proposals for that area todate.
MOTION
Retterath moved to recommend to the City Council approval of the rezoning from
Rural to Office as per the plans dated 6/24/82 and the 7/22/82 staff report.
Torjesen seconded.
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DISCUSSION
Marhula expressed concern for the use of metal siding and asked that the Building
Inspector look at it closely.
Motion carried 6-0.
MOTION
Sutliff moved that the City's Engineering Staff look at the hard surfacing of
Eden Road prior to building permit issuance for Sheraton or any other future
developments along Eden Road and be sure to inform all development that they
must share in the assessments for the road. Retterath seconded, motion carried
6-0.
B. SUNRISE KNOLLS, by Edward A. Sieber. Request for Compre-
hensive Guide Plan change on 2. 1 acres from medium to high
density residential (36 units on 2.1 acres, 17 units/acre) ,
rezoning of 2.1 acres from Rural to RM 2.5, preliminary plat
approval to divide 2.1 acres into 2 lots (2.1 and .8 acres) ,
and a variance for use of wood as an exterior material to
construct a 3 story 36 unit rental building. Located west
of Shady Oak Road and north of Rowland Road. A public hearing.
Johnson stated that Edward Sieber and Frank Reese of Reese Design, Inc. were
present.
Reese stated that the northern portion of the site will not be developed at
this time, but will be developed with the adjacent land to the west. They want to
develop the southern part for a 3 story apartment unit with basement garages.
Surface parking for each unit would also be provided outside. A buffer of
evergreens would be placed along the west boundary of the property. He reviewed
the elevation of the site and stated that the exterior of the building would
be clap-board siding in a cape-cod style. He does not see any sewer or water
problems.
Sieber reviewed the history of the site.
Johnson reviewed the staff report dated 7/19/82 and the surrounding land uses.
She also stated that Staff recommends relocation of the access.
Bearman stated he was concerned with placing the building on( the site with the
Hennepin County Department of Transportation wanting an additional 20' of right-of-
way. He also questioned the need for the additional right-of-way.
Marhula stated that with a 4 lane roadway 20' from the building, fi.nancing through
FHA or VA might be difficult because of the proximity to the roadway. Sieber.stated
that he is prepared to put up 50% of the cost for the building on private capital and
stated he felt that with that much put forward, it would not be difficult to obtain
the rest.
Reese stated that he and Mr. Sieber had met with the Highway Department on June 24
and no mention of the 20' additional right-of-way was made. He stated that after
receiving the letter from the Highway Department, he worked up a sketch plan of the
building having approximately 27 units.
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Bearman stated he felt that there was not adequate room available for a transition
use between the single family on the west and the building. _He stated that the
Commission, in the past, has tried to make a transition between single family and
commercial , etc. He was also concerned that the building may not fit onto the
site.
Torjesen expressed his concern that City West's_ western boundary was maintained as
medium density office. The decision for this proposal would seta precedent- for all
land- lying to the west of Shady Oak Road. - -
Hallett asked the number of units/acre allowed for medium density and high
density residential. Johnson replied medium is 6.7 units/acre and high density is
17.4 units/acre. Hallett asked the density of this project. Johnson replied 17
units/acre.
Robert Green, 6533 Shady Oak Road, stated he felt that spot zoning on this parcel
would not be good with single family on iV s west. He stated he felt that the
building would look like a skyscraper against his son's (David Green, 6561 Shady
Oak Road) home.
Ken Biersdorf, representing Uherka's of 6301 Shady Oak Road, commented that he felt
that City West was done very well and stated that he would like consideration
given to the entire island, not only the parcel on the south.
Jerry Steelman, 6601 Golden Ridge, asked that the Planning Commission take into
• consideration the surrounding land uses.
Hallett stated he felt that medium density residential should be on this site.
MOTION 1
Retterath moved to close the public hearing. Sutliff seconded, motion carried 6-0.
MOTION 2
Retterath moved to recommend to the City Council denial of the Comprehensive _
Guide .Plan change without pre i_udice, Sutliff seconded, motion carried 6-0.
V. OLD BUSINESS
Sutliff stated he felt that when the Planning Commission is looking at
road connections in projects, the Commission should look at the connection
as it affects the entire City. He felt that an open roadway system is
very important. Bearman agreed.
Marhula expressed concerns that an alternate access should be provided in
a neighborhood rather than only one access point.
Hallett stated he felt that it is the people's choice where they want to
live and stated that he felt that the people can be over-protected.
Torjesen stated he felt that there are two ways to consider road connections
when a project comes before the Commission: 1) deal with the neighborhood
and its lifestyle, etc. ; 2) recognize that all kinds of neighborhoods feel.: _
the same way about living their own way. He felt that looking at Eden
Prairie as a whole is important, but the concensus of the neighborhoods
should be considered. The neighborhood's image should also be considered.
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Bearman agreed, but stated that the City has legal liabilities and stated
that Public Safety needs more connecting through roads so they can serve
the City better.
Marhula stated that he felt that in the Kings Forest request, the West
66th Street connection might not have had very much of an effect on the
area, but stated he felt that the residents would have found it to be a
benefit. He stated that connecting one road can take traffic away from
another.
Bearman stated that after looking back at the vote on Amendment #2 of Kings
Forest, it ends up in favor of no connection, he would like to hold another
public hearing. Johnson suggested a public meeting might be more appropriate.
Torjesen stated that that might be more useful.
VI. NEW BUSINESS
None
VIII. PLANNER'S REPORT
Johnson reviewed upcoming items.
• VIII. ADJOURNMENT
Torjesen moved to adjourn the meetingat 9:23 pm. Marhula seconded, motion
carried 6-0.
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