Planning Commission - 09/14/1981 AGENDA
Monday, September 14, 1981
7:30 PM, City Hall
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Chairman William Bearman, Hakon
Torjesen, Virginia Gartner, Grant
Sutliff, Liz Retterath, Dennis
Marhula, Robert Hallett
STAFF MEMBERS: Chris Enger, Director of Planning
Sue Schulz, Planning Secretary
Pledge of Allegiance - Roll Call
I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
II. APPROVAL OF AUGUST 24, 1981 MINUTES
III. MEMBERS REPORTS
IV. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
A. BRYANT LAKE CONDOMINIUMS, by Metram Properties Co. Request
for PUD Concept approval on 65 acres for residential. attached
and detached units with possible variances and approval of an
Environmental Assessment Worksheet. Located east of 494 and
Beach Road and south of proposed Crosstown 62. A continued
public hearing.
B. PRESERVE CONDOMINIUMS, by Prairie Lakes Corporation. Request
for PUD Development Stage approval , plat approval , and rezoning
of 8 acres from Rural to RM 2.5 for construction of 2 buildings
for a total of 124 condominiums. Located south of Anderson
Lakes Parkway and west of Preserve Community Center. A continued
public hearing.
C. MID-AMERICAN_ HOMES, INC. OFFICE, by Mid-American Homes, Inc.
Request to combine 2 properties and rezone the 4.9 acres from
Rural to Office for construction of office uses. Located north
of TH 5 and west of PUrgatory Creek. A continued public hearing.
D. PRESENTATION OF CITY SERVICES DEVELOPMENT AT MITCHELL ROAD AND
TH 5
V. OLD BUSINESS
VI. NEW BUSINESS
A. Appoint member(s) to Housing Cost Task Force
VII. PLANNER'S REPORT
A. Reschedule October 12, 1981 meeting to Tuesday, October 13, 1981.
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
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MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION
approved
Monday, September 14, 1981 7:30 PM, City Hall
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman William Bearman, Liz Retterath,
Virginia Gartner, Grant Sutliff, Hakon
Torjesen, Dennis Marhula
MEMBERS ABSENT: Robert Hallett
STAFF PRESENT: Chris Enger, Director of Planning
Sue Schulz, Planning -Secretary
I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Torjesen moved to approve the agenda as submitted. Gartner seconded, motion
carried 6-0.
II. APPROVAL OF AUGUST 24, 1981 MINUTES
Gartner moved to approve the August 24, 1981 minutes with the following
additions and/or corrections:
P. 3, 2nd para. , after (3) add 'sets of' ; after the word distance, add
'between TH 5 and Co. Rd. 18'
Under Motion, #1, add after 3' 'sets 'of' and after 494, Tdnd TH 5`
P. 5, bottom of page, add 'Torjesen stated that he felt that the residents
who have moved there have a right to ,be able to depend upon the zoning
which is designated for the land accoruing to City Hall records. '
P.10, 3rd para. , add after the word this, 'increment does not occur to repay
the bond, if the City is liable. '
Sutliff seconded, motion carried 5-0-1. Retterath abstained.
III. MEMBERS REPORTS
None
IV. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
A. BRYANT CAKE CONDOMINIUMS, by Metram Properties Co. Request
for PUD Concept approval on 65 acres for residential attached
and detached units with possible variances and approval of
an Environmental Assessment Worksheet. Located east of 494
and Beach Road and south of proposed Crosstown 62. A continued
public hearing.
Bearman asked if the proponent has been meeting with Hennepin County. The Planner
replied yes and stated that Mr. Howard Dahlgren, Howard Dahlgren Assoc. , Mr. Dale
Ahlquist, Metram Properties, Co. , and Mr. Bernardi were present. -
Dahlgren stated that Metram Properties Co. has owned this property for approximately
10 years. He reviewed the revisions, and stated that the proponent would like this
project be tabled so that the Hennepin County Park Preserve District can have ample
time to decide whether or not they want the entire parkland, and so that the propo-
nent can have ample time to continue to work out the existing problems.
approved
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Bearman asked the time frame requested for tabling the proposal . The Planner
stated that he felt that 60 days would be appropriate, and if the problems have
not been worked out by then, the Commission could cl.ose�,the+-public hearing and
take action.
Torjesen asked if the public hearing can be closed and then reopened. The Planner
replied yes.
Bearman asked if this would create a problem with the 90 day time limit. The
Planner replied there would be no problem because the developer has requested the
item to be tabled. Dahlgren agreed and stated he felt they would be ready in
November.
Bearman then suggested November 9th.
Torjesen asked if the neighbors would be renotified. The Planner stated that if
the public hearing was closed, then they should be renotified but in this case,
it would be unnecessary. Bearman stated he felt that the neighbors should be
renotified.
Torjesen stated that it should be stated that the Commission is tabling this without
prejudice.
MOTION
• Gartner moved to table Bryant Lake Condominiums to November 9, 1981. Torjesen
seconded, motion carried 6-0.
B. PRESERVE CONDOMINIUMS, by Prairie Lakes Corporation. Request
for PUD Development Stage approval , plat approval , and rezoning
of 8 acres from Rural to RM 2.5 for construction of 2 buildings
for a total of 124 condominiums. Located south of Anderson
Lakes Parkway and west of Preserve Community Center. A con-
tinued public hearing.
Bearman stated that the letter from Mr. McLeod dated 8/20/81 should be made part
of the minutes.
The Planner stated Mr. Larry Peterson of The Preserve was present to give the
presentation.
Peterson reviewed the location, stated that construction is'tentatively scheduled
for Spring of 1982, there will be 124 total units (2 buildings) , stated- that
the units facing Neill Lake would be 3 bedroom units and cost approximately $90,000
and the smaller units around $60,000.
Bearman asked if the placement of the plan 'lay-out is the same as in 1978. Peterson
replied it is similar and stated that originally there were rentals being requested.
The Planner reviewed the staff report dated 8/13/81.
. Bearman asked if there- is a fire road .going-around Neill Labe. The Planner
replied that there will be a pathway around the lake.
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approved
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Gartner asked why this plan would be approved by the City Council when the
1978 plan was denied. The Planner stated that in 1978 there was more open land.
He stated that this plan conforms to all ordinance requirements.
Peterson stated'that they held a public meeting on June 24, and stated that
approximately three (3) residents came.. '
Retterath stated that she used to live in The Preserve, and felt that there
is a problem with over-loading this area of The Preserve. The Planner stated
that the sewer, water, roads, etc. have all been provided for more development
in this area and stated that having people live around amenities in The Preserve
will make it look more "suburban like' . He stated that the density has been
down-graded from the original plan.'
Retterath then asked approximately how much of The Preserve is available for
development. Peterson replied that 13 acres are owned but not yet built upon,
and that there are 12 more acres across from Hans Hagen.
Torjesen stated that he felt that it should be noted that a variance is needed
down the ini dal e of the driveways along. the lot line.
Bearman asked if anyone had any other questions and/or comments to make. None
were raised.
• MOTION 1 _ - — --
Gartner moved to close the public hearing on Preserve Condominiums plat. Ret
terath seconded, motion carried 6-0.
MOTION 2
Gartner moved to recommend to the City Council approval of the rezoning from
Rural to RM 2.5 as per the plan dated 8/7/81 and the 8/13/81 staff report. Retterath
seconded, motion carried 6-0.
MOTION 3
Gartner moved to recommend to the City Council approval of the preliminary plat
dated 8/7/81 as per the 8/13/81 staff report. Retterath seconded, motion carried
6=0.
C. MID-AMERICAN HOMES, INC. OFFICE, by Mid-American Homes, Inc.
Request to combine 2 properties and rezone the 4.9 acres from
Rural to Office for construction of office uses. Located north
of TH 5 and west of Purgatory Creek. A continued public hearing.
The Planner reviewed the revisions made, and stated that there are more revisions
to be made.
Bearman asked if the proponent will be ready for the next meeting. The Planner
replied yes.
• Torjesen asked why the proponent was not present. The Planner replied that he
felt it was unnecessary and stated that a tentative date for this proposal to go
before the City Council is set for October 6, 1981.
Marhula pointed out that there are contours missing on the revised plan, and that
the floodplain line is also different.
approved
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• MOTION
Gartner moved to continue Mid-American Homes, Inc. Office to September 28, 1981.
Sutliff seconded, motion carried 6-0.
D. PRESENTATION OF CITY SERVICES DEVELOPMENT AT MITCHELL ROAD AND
TH 5
The Planner stated that this was an informational item.
Bearman stated that there were six (6) sites originally but' the plan has been
narrowed down to the Mitchell Road and TH 5 site. The Planner replied yes.
He went on to say that InterDesign has been selected for the architect. He* Mated
that the land use is correct for this site, it's in the center of the town,-some
existing functions are located there, the post office has been deleted, and the
library will not be located there. He stated that on the west side of Mitchell
Road the City has an option to purchase Mr,. Wineberg's property and that with this
purchase there would be room to put City Hall and public safety there in the
future. He stated that this is not a detailed site plan yet and stated that this
will be before the City Council on Sept. 15 for a decision. He stated that on the
west side of Mitchell Road there is room for City Hall expansion and parking ex-
pansion also. The master plan would contemplate upgrading Mitchell Road to a four
(4) lane road and the entire site would be screened with only views from Mitchell
Road. There will be a separate entrance for trucks entering into the site.
• Sutliff asked if there is a berm on the east side of the property now. The Planner
replied yes.
Sutliff asked approximately how much the site is worth. The Planner replied that
without the land costs, the buildings would be approximately $4,000,000.
Retterath stated she felt that landscaping should be done carefully. -She also asked
if there would be room for expansion to public safety and the fire station. The
Planner replied yes.
Torjesen stated he felt that this plan should be made a model for a complicated
facility.
The Planner stated that the parking lots will not be constructed to the full extent
now so they can be completed in the future.
Bearman asked that an update of the plans be reviewed at the next Planning Commission
meeting.
Torjesen asked if the plan :will go before the Planning Commission for review and
recommendations. The Planner replied yes.
The Commission stated that they are happy with the progress made.
V. OLD-BUSINESS
• None
approved
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VI. NEW BUSINESS
A. Appoint member(s) to Housing Task Force.
Torjesen and Bearman volunteered for the Housing Task Force.
Gartner stated that she felt that the Task Force should see that the City
grows in an orderly fashion with a mix of housing, but felt that orderly
growth was most important.
Retterath asked if an accommodation to Mr. Bob Tyson should be sent by
the Planning Commission or if the City Council had already done so. The
Planner stated he would check if the Council had sent one.
Bearman asked if time is available for a 'workshop' for new Planning Com-
mission Members on the September 28, 1981 agenda. The Planner replied yes.
Torjesen asked when Codification will go to the Council. The Planner
replied October 6.
VII. PLANNER'S REPORT
A. Reschedule October 12, 1981 meeting to Tuesday, October 13, 1981.
• MOTION
Gartner moved to reschedule the regularly scheduled meeting of October
12, 1981 to October 13, 1981 as it is a holiday (Columbus Day) . Retterath
seconded, motion carried 5-1. Sutliff voted no.
VIIII ADJOURNMENT
Retterath moved to adjourn the meeting at 9:19 PM. Gartner seconded,
motion carried 6-0.
Honeywell
August 20 , 1981
Eden Prairie Planning Commission
Eden Prairie City Hall
8950 Eden Prairie Road
Eden Prairie, MN 55344
RE: Rezoning Request
Prairie Lakes Corporation
Lot 2, Block 1 and outlot A. Preserve Center
Dear Commissioners:
As a four-year resident of Eden Prairie, at the Preserve, I appeal to
you to stop the continuing erosion of the original concept of the
Preserve, of the amenities and life quality which we were promised at
the purchase, and of the natural beauty of the Preserve area.
The residents of the Preserve actively fought the present
construction of Preserve condominiums due to their mass, the number
• of people that would be added to the Preserve, the additional
pressure on existing amenities, and the additional traffic burden.
Part of the final compromise was a reduction in the number of
condominiums that would be built. However, just short months later,
here we go again, and the request is for a parcel that makes even
less sense for high density multiple residential use.
The particular parcel is one of the most picturesque in the
Preserve. Most of the public views of Niel Lake have been shut off
from Preserve residents because of other construction disasters, and
the Preserve Center and the subject lots are the remaining "quiet and
beauty" areas available to all residents. To pave this area with 124
living units, and add the environmental pressure of that many
families adjacent to the ecology of Neil Lake would be a terrible
shame.
The quality of life in the Preserve, that originally held so much
promise for the area, is rapidly being detroyed by .the greed of the
developers and the ready accession by the Planning Commission to
these requests. I hope you' ll represent the pride in the Preserve
that the long-term residents have (had?) and reject this most
inappropriate use of our land.
Cordially,
C_XQ6k
Douglas A. McLeod
10830 Forestview Circle
Eden Prairie, -MN 55344
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