Planning Commission - 10/14/1980 AGENDA
Eden Prairie Planning Commission
Tuesday, October 14, 1980
7:30 PM, City Hall
PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS: Chairman William Bearman , Liz RPtterath
George Bentley, Virginia Gartner, Hakon
Todesen, Matthew Levitt, Grant Sutliff
STAFF MEMBERS: Chris Enger, Director of Planning; Jean
Johnson, Assistant Planner; Sue Schulz,
Planning Secretary
Pledge of Allegiance-Roll Call
I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
11 . APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM SEPTEMB`R, 22�80
III . MEMBERS REPORT'S
IV. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
A. THORN CREEK ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT WORKSHEET, Request for
Finding of No signWicant impact.
B. MENARD ADDITION REPLAT, by Menard, Inc. Request to replat
Outlots , Hard Addition. The easterly portion of
Menard Addition. A continued public hearing.
C. PRAIRIE LAKES CONDOMINIUMS (and Basswood Terrace duplex and
s ngle em y) , by Prairie Lakes Corporation a The Preserve.
Request ror P"D De"elopment Plan revision & replatting of
Block 60 lot 1 , Basswood Forest for construction of duplexes,
single family and condominiums. Located North of Anderson
Lakes Parkway R northwest of Basswood Road. A continued public, - --
hearing.
D. EDEN PRAIRIE C"UNITY CHURCH. Request to rezone 5 acres from,
Rural to Public for construction of a church. Located Best of
the new High School . A public hearing.
E. SINGLE TREE OFFICE, by willys Holmquist. Request to rezone 2
acres from RuRT76 Office for an office building. Located in
Lhe SE quadrarit of Singie 'Tree lane and iden Road. A putiTtc
hearing.
F. DISCUSSION OF 'HORELAND MANAGEMEdT OROI CE 80-25.
G. JOINT TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE FOR THE CITIES OF BLOOMINGTON
V. OLD BUSINESS
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VI. NEW BUSINESS
VI 1. PLANNER S REPORT
A. YEAR VII C.D.B.s.
B. Upcoming Projects
VITI. ADJOURNMENT
MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION approved
Tuesday, October 14, 1980 7:30 PM9 City Hall
MEMBERS PRESENT: Acting Chairperson Liz Retterath , George Bentley,
Virginia Gartner, Matthew Levitt , Grant Sutliff
MEMBERS ABSENT: William Bearman, Hakon Torjesen
STAFF PRESENT: Chris Enger, Director of Planning; Sue Schulz,
Planning Secretary
I . APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Bentley moved to approve the agenda a� submitted. Gartner seconaea,
motion carried 5-0.
II . APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM SEPTEMBER 22, 1980
Bentley moved to approve the minutes as submitted. Sutliff seconded,
motion carried 5-0.
III . MEMBERS REPORTS
Bentley stated that van-pooling is bringing a co-op effort between
businesses and Eden Prairie. He mentioned that the State is beginning a pro-
gram of ride-share matching, but, that he would report in more detail later.
IV. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
A. THORN CREEK ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT WORKSHEET1 . Request for
FiRing of No significant impact.
The Planner stated that no EAW was done at the time of the original proposal ,
He also stated that Mr. John Uban of Howard Dahlgren Associates was present
to answer questions.
Bentley questioned the necessity of dividing the decible level readings for
construction equipment between the different t- -!s of equipment, rather than
just giving an overall decible reading. The Planner replied that it was a
requirement in the preparation of an EAW.
Bentley asked what the source was for the information in the EAW. The Planner
replied that the City is responsible for it, but the developer submits a
— - guqhn draft copy.ton
u-off moved to recommend to the City Council finding of no significant impact.
Bentley seconded, motion carried 4-0-1. Levitt abstained because he was absent
when the proposal was brought to the Planning Commission.
B. MENARD ADDITION REPLAT, by Menard, Inc. Request to replat Outlots
D, E, b F. Menard Addition. The easterly portion of Menard Addi-
tion. A continued public hearing.
Gartner reviewed the letter from Menards dated September 291 1980 requesting to .
postpone the hearing to October 27, 1980.
Motion
artre moved to continue the !Renard repl at public hearing to October 27, 1980.
as requested by Menard's in their September 29, 1980 letter. Levitt seconded,
motion carried 5-0.
approved
Planning Commssion Minutes -2- October 14, 1980
C. PRAIRIE LAKES CONDOMINIUMS, by Prairie Lakes Corporation & The
Preserve. Request for PUD Development Plan revision & replatting
of Block 6, Lot 1 , Basswuc;d Forest for construction of 252 con-
dominiums. Located North of Anderson Lakes Parkway and Northwest
of Basswood Road, A continued public hearing.
The Planner stated that this proposal was continued form the September S. 1980 and
the September 22, 1980 meetings. He then introduced Mr. Larry Peterson, representing
The Preserve, and Mr. Doug Moe the architect.
Peterson reviewed the original zoning, covered the revisions , and stated that they
have received the majority approval from the residents in the area.
Moe stated that the property would have a single access to .inderson Lakes Parkway.
He also stated that the first building has 63 units and the second building has 75
and both of the buildings have underground parking. He stated that the 2-bedroom
units are approximately 1100 sq. ft. , the 3-bedroom units are approximately 1370
sq. ft. , and the 1-bedroom units are approximately 875 sq. ft.
The Planner reviewed the staff report dated 10/10/80.
Levitt asked what views Northma rk II would have of the project. Peterson replied
that the residents f Northmark II would look at the ends of the buildings ,
Bentley asked if this is in conformance with the Shoreland Management Ordinance.
The Planner replied yes.
Bentley alked how far this project is from Anderson Lakes . Peterson replied
that the 1000 foot line from Anderson Lakes runs through the middle of the PUD.
Bentley asked how far this project is from Neill Lake. Peterson replied loco- ft.
Bentley stated that he was concerned with the drainage. Peterson stated that he wants
to meet with the Park and Recreation Conrission concerning the drainage and the
pathway but further stated that there may be an additional ponding area near the
existing park pond.
Bentley asked where the overflow from the ponds will go. Peterson stated it will
r§o into Anderson Lake.
The Planner stated that some of the w:.ter will go to the Existing sediment pond and
overflow to the swat e.
Bentely stated that he felt that the pond should be considered carefully becduse of
a potential safety hazard.
Retterath asked what the length of the buildings are. Moe replied that building one
will be 425 ft. and building two will be 500.
Retterath also asked what the angle of the buildings are. Moe replied 20 degrees.
Retterath asked if there was aroy way to break tht 500 ft. massing up. Peterson
stated that they looked at other ways but this seemed to work the best.
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Retterath asked what the distance between the First building and Windslope was .
Peterson replied 4C0+ ft.
Sutliff asked the Planner if he was familiar with exiting and existing require-
ments for underground parking. The Planner replied no.
Levitt asked who maintains the buildings . Peterson replied there will be a separate
association for Pach building covered under, The Preserve Umbrella Association-
Bill Herbert 11030 Northmark Drive, stated that the homeowners were upset with the
origiral proposal but after modification uF the plan they are pleased. He submitted
a petition that was compiled before the revisions were made and expressed that he would
like i t to be made part of the record as a matter of history.
Motion
Levitt moved to close the public hearing on Anderson Lakes Addition. Sutliff
seconded, motion carried 5-0.
D.jCuSSION
Sutliff stated that the petition from th, residents should be made part of the record ,
although since the project has been modifies+ , i* no longer ; aflected current concerns .
Motion 2
eO tt moved to recommend to the City Council anLroval of the revised site pl ari and
preliminary plat dated October 2, IL980 as pe- the ;':aff report of October 10, 1980,
Gartner seconded , motioncarried 4-1 . Retterath voted nay. (Retterath explained
that she was not objecting to the land use, but rather, to the excessive length of
the buildings.
DISCUSSION
Bentley asked what the proponent has planned fer Basswood Terrace. Peterson replied
that they plan to submit the application as soon as possible.
Bentley stated that he would like the minutes to reflect that Outlot A WWld include
down-zoning to RM 6.5 and R1-13.5 for preliminary plat of Basswood Terrace.
D. EDER PRAIRIE COMMUNITY CHURCH. Request to rezone 5 acres from
kural to Public for construction of a church. Located Test
of the new High School . A public meeting.
The Planner introduced Bill Bonner, Pastor of the Eden Prairie Community Church.
Bonner reviewed the location, access , parking spaces , and elevation of the church.
The Planner reviewed the staff report of October 9, 1980 and stated that he felt
that the Engineering Department and Watexshe6* District should review the plan
.:Prior to construction.
Sutliff was concerned with the cul-de-sac caring frm Duck Lake Vista. The
Planner stated that the Cul-de-sac referred to .ems not border on this ptqp-
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Levitt asked how big the community room would to and how large the balance of
the building would be. Bonr*r replied tbat the amity ruaw vmx-id be SOW+
Sq. ft. and the balance would be 109000 sq. ft.
PlanningCommission Min approved
Minutes -4- October 14, 1980
Bonner stated that he has talked with the school board and stated that they
can use the parking lot for overflow, in a reciprocal informal arrangement.
* %A &\-.V 1 r t IC .:. wCf C o�iy N i dns for the open land. Bonner replied possibly
a day-care center.
Retterath commended Bonner with his use of a solar system in the building and
asked what the maximum number of parking spaces there would be. Bonner replied
124.
Retterath asked if there was any response from the school board as to the parking.
Bonner replied that they seem to be in favor of the sharing for overflow.
Motion
Gartner moved to recommend to the City Council approval of the Eden Prairie
Community Church rezoning of 5 acres to Public as per the 10/14/80 plans and
the 10/9/80 staff report. Bentley seconded, motion carried 5-0.
E. SINGLE TREE OFFICE, by Willys J. Holmquist. Request to rezone
acres from Rural to Office for an office buildir. , Located
in the SE quadrant of Single Tree Lane and Eden Road. A public
meeting.
The Planner introduced Tim Pierce of Tim Pierce b Associates.
Pierce reviewed the site location, zoning, site area, and landscaping.
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The Planner reviewed the staff report dated October 9, 1980.
Bentley asked what the setback was on the frontya rd. Pierce replied 17' and
stated they can work with an additional k foot as required.
Levitt asked what buffering would be provided to the single family. The Planner
stated that the building would be oriented with parking in the rear away fro^i
residential . Pierce further stated that the landscaping plan would be presented
at time of building permit.
Levitt stated. that he felt that attention should be given to landscaping the front
0 the building.
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Sutliff asked if it would be two level parking. Pierce stated that it would be
dne 'avel with a..�l .going up.
Levitt asked if this site has been platted. The Planner replied yes .
Motion
ee n Tey moved to recommend to the City Council approval of the Single Tree Office
rezoning as per the plans dated 10/3180, the preliminary site plan dated 10/14/80,
and the 10/9/80 staff report. Gartner seconded, motion carried 5-0.
F. DISCUSSION OF SHORELAND MANAGMNT ORDINANCE 80-25.
Many concerns were raised by the Commission Members.
Staff was instructed to revise the Ordinance z;nd return to the Commission for
additional review.
approved
Planning Commission Minutes -5- October 14, 1980
G. JOINT TRANSPORTATIM, C"ITTEE FOR THE CITIES OF BLOOMINGTON
D EDEN PRAIRIE.
The Planner reviewed the staff report dated October 1, 19e0 and stated that he
felt that the committee should not be made up of staff members only.
Motion
Levitt moved to recommend that the City Council appoint a committee made up of
1 Staff representative, 2 citizens , and 1 Council member to work with an equal
wke-up from Bloomington. Sutliff seconded, motion carried 5-0.
V. OLD BUSINESS
None
VI . NEW BUSINESS
None
V11 . PLANNER'S REPORT
A. YEAR VII . C.D.B.G.
The Planner reviewed the staff report dated October 10, 1980 and stated
that the money for the coming year could be used for elderly housing.
The Planner also reviewed the next meeting.
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
Gartner moved to adjourn t%e meeting at 11:37 PM. Sutliff seconded,
motion carried 5