Planning Commission - 08/25/1980 AGENDA
Eden Prairie Planning Commission
Monday ,, August '25, 1980
j 7: 30 PM City Hall
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Chairman William Bearman , Liz Ratterath , Georqe
Bentley, Grant Sutliff, Virginia Gartner, Hak -..i
Torjesen, Matthew Levitt
STAFF MEMBERS: Chris Enger, Director of Planning; Jean Johnson ,
Assistant Planner; Sue Schulz , Planning Secretary
Pledge of Allegiance -- Roll Call
I . APPROVAL OF AGENDA
11 . APPROVAL OF THE AUGUST 11 , 1980 MINUTES
III . MEMBERS REPORTS
IV. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
A. BRYAN- LAKE CENTER PUD & LAKERIDGE OFFICE PARK REZONING. Request
by Hustad Development'—Corporation for PUD Concept approval for
office & commercial uses and pr0iminary plat approval ; and Ryan
Development Inc. ' s request for -rezoning of 8 acres of the 31 acre
PUD and -approval of an Environme:ital Assessment Worksheet. Lo-
cated South of Co. Rd. 60 & Noi-th of 494. A public hearing.
B. LAKE IDLEWILD OFFICE DEVELOPMENT,, by Land ' Sake, Inc . Request
Tar_PUD Concept, preliminary -pat, and rezoning from Rural to
Office for development of "townollf ices"., Located South, east
and north of Lake Idlewild. A public hearing.
V. OLD BUSINESS
VI . NEW BUSINESS
VII . PLANNER' S REPORT
VIII . ADJOURNMENT
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MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING MISSION
approved
Monday : August 2.5, 1980 7:30 PM, City Hall
MEMBERS PRESENT: Acting Chairperson Liz Retterath, George Bentley,
Grant Sutliff, Virginia Gartner, Hakon Torjesen,
Matthew Levitt
MEMBERS ABSENT: Wi l 1 i am Bearman
STAFF PRESENT: Chris Enger, Director of Planning; Sue Schulz,
Planning Secretary
I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Gartner moved to approve the agenda as submitted. Bentley seconded, motion
tarried 6-0.
I1. APPROVAL OF THE AUGUST 119 1980 MINUTES
p. 1. under approval of July 28 minutes , p.6, para. 5 should read. . . . .
required if this plan were approved.
p. 1 under item IV, para. 3, should read . . .his opinion that the plan
is inconsistent with the balance of growth and that he i n tended to
vote nay.
p. 4 under Discussion, para. 2, add . . .Levitt replied no because he felt
that this is a PUB and final approval gust wait and that condominiums
might not be acceptable in that area.
TorJesen moved to apprr•re the minutes of August 11, 1980 with the above
changes and/or additions. Levitt seconded , motion carried 5-0-1 . Gartner
abstained.
III . HMERS REPORTS
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IV. DEWLW"Wo PROPOSALS
A. BRYANT LIKE CENTER PUD b LA KER I BM OFFICE PARK RE.".0N I NG. Request by
Au-stad Developrert Corporation Or PW concept approval for office
i commercial uses and preliminary plat approval ; and Ryan Develop-
went 1nc. 's request for rezoning of 7. 7 acres of the 31 acre 'IUD and
approval of an Enviroo mental Asse,�sm ent Worksheet. Located South of
Co. Rd. 60 6 North of 494. A publ f c bee ring.
7%e Planer reviswed c:omissfen action from previous meetings and stated that the j
propose 1 has bKm revised. W. Introduced ed its l 1 y Pus t ad, Hus tad Deve 1 opmen t Corporation.
OkktW stated ttwt they are looking to create An office park with variety. He felt
that small scale buildings along Valley View Road and that the townhouse office
cmie0t 1s im p"nt, He introduced Too Ryan, of Ryan ^evelOpwant Inc. , and Dick
Pvtnwo- of ltvstad Dml opmabt wW also Rick Sather, En {veer.
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Putnfaar stated that around the pond the A" l an*ion to have office buildings i d i n s with
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underground parking spaces. Where the northern part of the site .becomet narrow, there
are 4 to 6 story buildings planned adjacent to 494. He went over the circulation
of the site and stated that there is a loop road which connects the two cul -de-sacs.
Ne introduced kick Sather, Engineer for Hustad.
Sather covered the utility aspects of the site and stated that most of the change
in the elevation of the site will be preserved in the deve's :cnt plan. He also
stated that the utilities need public sewer and water. ie also covered storm drainage.
Putnam introduced Tom Ryan, of Ryan Development.
Ryan went over the impact that Bryant Lake Center/Lakeridge Office Park would have
on other sites. He stated that the project would be heavily landscaped . He stated
that the buildings are to be owned by the owner user. He felt that the model shows
that this project is low-scale and low density.
Retterath relinquished the chafe to Chairman R.3rman at 8:12 PM.
The Planner reviewed the 8/22/80 staff memo. He also stated that the plan has peen
revised in detail . A loop road has been added and the eastern area has been shown
in detail in terns of future development of office or commercial uses . He also
stated that this revised plan is in conformance with the Comprehensive Guide Plan.
Sutliff asked what the current limit for the height of buildings is. The Planner
replied it is 30' in Office District of the toning Ordinance, however, the M.C.A.
POD contemplates multiple story buildings.
Bentley asked if the request for Phase I includes the loop road in rezoning and
the plat request. Putnam replied yes. Bentley also inquired about the width of
the loop road. Putnam replied that it is 28' and that they are looking at it as a
pvivato read with public use.
3entl ey asked if the Norwr t Ord i nanry High Water Mark of Bryant lake extends into
the Southern marsh area. The Planner replied he would have Lo check.
Bentley asked what the impervious surface coverage allowed under the Shoreland
Manag~t Act is, arrd what it was for the proparty being zoned. The Planner
replied that the impervious -surface coverage allowed in Shoreland Area is 30%
and the coverage for the property being zoned is 60%
Hustad stated that 60% of impervious surface is not high , the zoning ordinance
allows M Levitt stated that he felt. the model appeared to have more impervious +
"surface coverage than 60%. _ .
Levitt asked if construction limits -could be set for grading of Phase I and Phase -
Ii. The Planner replied yes.
Sutliff asked how much more grading would be needed if the loop road is added.
The Planner stated that it wotil-d be 1 acre: _
Sutliff coffeented that he felt t thet the 1 mV road should go in when Phase 11 is
built.
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Puta n states that they would like to do as little grading t�� to put the 1 �' 9 as possible i n Phase I.
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:.You ld be r+equ i Wa.
Retterath asked if there would be enough room to get e fire truck through the
parking lot when it is full . The Planner stated that yes, there is enough room.
Dearman asked if the engineers have looked at this project. The Planner stated
they have looked at it only on a preliminary basis and that they have not found any
major problems.
8earman asked about the landscaping. 'the Planner states that on the original staff
report he comnentec that there was to be additional berrning and that plant material
should to enlarged.
Beaman asked if there is an erosion control plan in Phase I . Sather replied that
the Watershed would require one.
Notion 1
rtner moved to close the public hearing on the PUB b preliminary plat request.
Retterath seconded, motion carried 7-0. r
Notion 2
Griner moved to recommend to the City Caumil approval of the PUD Concept dated
6/16/80 as revised based upon the staff reports, 7/25/80 and 8/22/80 withthe
following additions:
1. That no grading will be done until rezoning and platting is approved.
2. Grading will be limited to the 7.7 acre small office proposal and loop
road.
3. Construction limits must be set and fenced in the field. _
4. That portion of the site within the Shoreland Area must be developed
in conformance with the Shoreland Management Act.
5. That the revised PUB be attached to the original .
Aetterath seconded, aDtion carried. 7-4.
"Won 3
Gartner moved to reco to-th: C-i ty Co=f l approve i of #...he first phase reron i ny
of 7. / acres from C-Reg to Office Lased upon the plans stated -6/16/80 and the staff
reports of 7/25/80 and 8/22/80, seconded by Retterath with the same additions as �F
in Notion 2. EI
DISCUSSION
-Bentley move& to f amend the motion; that the loop road be constructed in conjupction
with Phase II o Lakeridge. Sutliff seconded, motion failed 2-5. Retterath,
dearmn, Gartner, Torjesen, 6 Levitt voted nay.
The original motion was changed with the following addition:
-6. Then an erosion control plan be added. -
ariginal rAotinn carrted 7-0. -
approved
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Notion 4
Gartner moved to recommend t6 the City Council approval of the preliminary plat
dated 6/16/80 based upon the staff reports of 7/25/80 and 8/22/80 with the same
additions as in motions 2 and 3. Retterath seconded, motion carried 7-0.
motion 5
artner moved to recorAmend to the City Cuuncil approval of the Environmental Ascs"s-
ment Wbrksheet. Retterath seconded, motion carried 7-0.
8. DICE IDLEWILD OFFICE DEVELOPMENT, by Land' Sake, Inc. Request for
PUB on:ept, preliminary plat, and rezoning from Rural to Office
for development of "tewnoffices". Located in the SW quadrant of
U.S. 169/212 and West 78th Street.
Tr`ie Planner reviewed the 8/22/80 staff wiewo and introduced Toni Heiberg, President
of Land' Sake, Inc.
Heiberg reviewed the location and 5 basic requests: 1. Storm. sewer petition,
2. Setback variance request, 3. approval of PUD of 6.7 acres, 4. rezoning
to office, 5, preliminary plat approval . He also reviewed the ownership, concept
plan, and phasing plan.The Planner reviewed the staff reconmendations and pointed out that more open spice
would be preserved near the lake with the setback variances.
Bearman a;;ked if a feasibility study will be done of the lake Idlewwild outlet pro-
blem. The Planner stated that it is currently under way.
Levitt asked if there could be any development prior to resolution of the storm �
sewer issue. The Planner replied no.
Levitt asked how Lake Idlewild is classified by the D.M.R. The Planner stated that
it is General Development.
Levitt stated that the Shoreland Management Act should be taken into account . The
Planner stated that it would leave the land undevei opabl e.
Bearman asked if anything has been done to the lake to facilitate its use as a stom
holding pond. Paul Andersc n :tated that it had been dredged to give it At11►e cap-
acity.
Bentley asked if the lake is public Water or private and if it is public, how
ownership is snown. The Planner stated that the lot lines extend to the middle of
the lake and that the owner awns the ba s s n.
Bearmn asked how the project would be addressed. Heiberg replied that they are not
sure but that they have thought of giving each building an internal site number to
be identified by and that the overall project could have one street mMrrrss .
Retterath asked how far their northeast access is frw, the fire statioe. Anderson
*plied 1SO ft. The Planar than stated that that is for enough away.
Torjesen asked if any_adjjoininq property owners were present because he felt tit the
commission would like to hear their viaws on the project.
approved
Planning Commission Minutes -5- August 25, 1980
Claire Koofinan, 7639 Eden Road stated that she was in favor nf the l aka hp;nn
lowered because their tennis court is now under water. She felt that the area
was going to develop and offices seemed like an appropriate use.
Gartner asked if the resolution of storm sewer also includes the lake level . The
Planner replied yes.
Motion 1
Gartner moved to close the public hearing. Sutliff seconded, motion carried 7-0.
Notion 2
artner moved to recommend to the City Council approval of the PUD Concept dated
7/25/80 as per the 8!22/80 staff report. Bentley seconded, motion carried 5-2.
Bearman and Levitt voted nay.
Notion 3
Gartner moved to recommend to the City Council approval of the first phase rezoning
to office as per the 8/22/80 staff report with the following additions :
1. Grading will be limited to Phase I .
2. That an erosion control plan be added.
Bentley seconded, motion carried 5-2. Bearman and Levitt voted nay.
Motion 4
Gartner moved to recommend to the City Council approval of the preliminary plat
for Phase I dated 7/25/80 as per the 8/22/80 staff report. Bentley seconded,
motion carried 5-2. 8earman and Levitt voted nay.
V. OLD BUSINESS
None
YI . NEW BUSINESS
one
VII . PLANNER'S REPORT
The Planner reported that Lake Riley Estates , piram's First Addition, Prairie
Lakes Corporation, and Menards will be at the September 8, 1980 meeting.
VIII . ADJOURNMENT
Levitt moved to adjourn the meeting at 11 : 15 PM. Sutliff seconded, motion
carried 7-0.
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