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AGENDA
EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION
MONDAY, JUNE 239 1980
6:00 PM, CITY HALL
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Chairman William Bear-man, Lim Retterath, George Bentley,
Grant Sutliff, Virginia Gartner, Matthew Levitt,
Hakon Torjesen
STAFF MEMBERS: Chris Enger, Director of Planning
Jean Johnson, Assistant Planner
Pledqe of Allegiance -- Roll Call
A. 6:GU PM Special Meeting
TORJESEN FAMILY PRESENTATION OF REFUGEE CAMP EXPERIENCES.
B. 7:30 PM Regular Meeting
I . APPROVAL OF AGENDA
II . APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF JUNE 9, 1930
III . MEMBERS REPOPTS
IV. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS:
A. DEER CREEK PUD AND REZONING, by T.G.C. Development, Inc. Request
or PUD concept approval on RO acres for single family, townhouse,
quadraminiums, and commercial use; rezoning from Rural to P341 2.5;
preliminary plat approval , and approval of an Environmental Assess-
ment Worksheet. Located East of Mitchell Road , South of Old Fans
Quads, and North of Ridgewood West. A continued public hearing.
V. OLD BUSINESS
VI . NEW BUSINESS
VII . PLANNER' S REPORT
A. Parliamentary Procedures Guidelines
VIII . ADvOURNMENT
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EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION
• Monday. June 23; l4AQ Approved
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14EM'BERS PRESENT: Chairman William Bearman,Liz Retterath,Grant:Sutliff, Matthcw
Levitt, Virginia Gartner, Hakon Torjesen
MEMBERS ABSENT: George Bentley
STAFF PRESENT: Chris Enger, Director of Planning; Jean Johnson, Assistant
Pl arner
A. Special Meeting
the Hakon Torjesen fanily discussed with the Planning Commission their views,
work task-.-,, living conditions, and experiences during their 5 month stay ir,
Thailand.
After the meal , Ctrs. Torjesen along with the other family members ,showed
slides depicting: the refugee camp, their living quarters, the day care center
where the children worked, other Minnesota medical workers, etc.
The Planning Commission gratefully thanked the Torjesen family for taking the
time to review with .hem the details of their travel and work, and expressed the
desire to again meet, time permitting, and inviting al: family rmembers.
Regular Meeting
I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
artner moved,Sutliff seconded, to approve the agenda as submitted.
Motion carried unanimously.
II. APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES OF JUNE 99 1980
,Motion 4: should read- . . . to amend the motion to include the
developer' s commitment to prohibit fast food or retail establishment
development upon Outlot A.
Motion
martiWr moved, Torjesen seconded, to approve the minutes as submitted
and corrected. Motion carried unanimously.
IIT. MEMBERS REPORTS
none
IV. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
DER CREEK PUD AND REZONING, by T.G.C. Development, Inc. Request
or PUD Concept approval on 80 acres for single family, townhouse
quadraminiums, and commercial use; rezoning from RurAl to RM 2.5;
preliminary plat approval , and *approval of an Environmental
Assessment Worksheet. ;.ocated East of Mitchell Road, South of
Old Fare Quads, and North of Ridgewood West. A ccntinued public hearing. E
Mr. Bill Dolan, project designer, distributed additional hoausing material
illustrating the size and construction of the units to the commission and staff.
Mr. Dolan then reviewed the following revisions made to the site plantplan sho�a�
that night : increase in size of first phase project area by 1 acre, inclusion of
a road connection to Mitchell Road, increase to siz of the totlot area,
additional landscaping through the use of berms, fences and plantings,
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a 28 foct hard surface street which doubles onsite parking, preservation of
w,ciples and various stands of pines, 15% of the site is in open space or totlot -
use, and 66% of the site will be covered with grass or some other type of vegetation.
Mr. Dolan requested the following variances : 30 foot setback for hones from
the east/west street& 25 feet `rom the units to side streets ( with a 30 foot
setback for garages to side streets) . Mr. Dolan asked the Commission to continue
the item to July 14 for action to allow staff time 'to review the revisions.
Mr. Enger felt the revised plan shorn tonight illustrates better possibilities
than the plan reviewed in the revised staff report. He believed the new informa-
tion warrants additional review and report, and that the revisions made to the
plan opens the door to having this new type of quad which wil_1 reach people of
incomes which may not now be able to purchase a home in Eden Prairie. The Planner
added that the Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources Commission still has
some concerns over the geometrics of the totlot, but the new plan may answer
some of those concerns.
Mr. Enger noted that the revised plan has adjusted the distance between the
fronts of quads from 72 to 106 feet thereby opening up the character of the
project.
Mr. Enger informed the commission that the Public Safety Department is concerned
that the project, having a density of around 5 units/acre, dues not illustrate
any severe weather protection for the residents on an individual basis or group.
Mr. Sutliff asked hoer much additional a basement would cost. Mr. Fierke, Vice-
President of Marketing, Orrin Thompson Homes, replied that the cost would increase
similar to the quads presently being marketed. He added that the present quads
being built do not have basements, but instead have earth up against the sides
to create the illusior of a basement.
Sutliff then inquired if a furnace pig or some other type of individual protection
could be added. Mr. Fierke replied the labor and cost would be too high.
Sutliff &sked if the City ordinances require a minimum house site. The Planner
replied negative.
Retterath inquired as to the cost of the units proposed. Mr. Fierke estimated
in 2 story structure at $60,000, and the single story structure at $53,000.
lir. Levitt believed additional buffering should be created between the property's
southern boundary and the Centex single family development to the south.
Torjesen asked if the densities and land uses shotm . the other phases of the
site were consistent with the Guide Plan. The Planner replied affirmative.
*. Dolan stated the Elan presented tonight illustrates reduction in the density
in Brea e , inclusion of more open space in Area G. and a trail system through
the peWoerty•
TorJesen expressed his concern that the development of the project follow the
c'mtnKtion of Awderson Lakes Parkway.
The Planner believed some arrangeaients could be made, but perhaps a first phase
construction of the quads could exit Mitchell Roa#J instead of Anderson Lakes Parkway
since the paftwey may not be comrpleted anti 1 next Fal l .
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Bea:.aan asked the proponents if final design of the revised plan ccul d be
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accomplished by the next meeting, duly 14th. Mr. Do',an replied affirmative.
Mr. Bearman informed the proponents that he does not desire to�,see any
private streets in the development.
Fir. Lewitt and Mr. f orjesen believed the housing type is acceptable and feel::
considerable progress has been made, but still have concern relative to the
appropriateness of the terrain for this type of unit.
Mr. Torjesen restated the Concern that the developer depict additional
buffering along the south property line , especially the southeast corner.
Motion
SirtneF moved, Retterath seconded, to continue the Deer Creek PUD to the
July 141 1980 meeting. Notion carried unanimously.
V. OLD BUSINESS
V1 . NEW BUSINESS
VII. PLANNER'S REPORT
X. Parliamentary Procedures Guidelines
The Commission briefly reviewed the guidelines and decided to discuss
them at a future date.
YIII . ADJOURNMENT
Gartner moved, Retterath seconded, to adjourn at 9:08 PK. Motion
carried unanimously.
Respectfully submitted,
Jean Johnson