Planning Commission - 05/12/1980 AGENDA
i EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION
MONDAY, MAY 12, 1980
7:30 PM, CITY HALL
PLANNING COMMISSION MEMBERS: Chairman William Bearman, Liz Retterath, Matthew
Levitt, Grant Sutliff, Virginia Gartner, George
Bentley, and on Leave of Absence Hakon Torjesen
STAFF MEMBERS: Chris Enger, Director of Planning
Jean Johnson, Assistant Planner
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE - ROLL CALL
I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA.
II . APPROVAL OF THE APRIL 28, 1980 MINUTES.
III . MEMBERS REPORTS.
IV. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS:
A. NORTHMARK WEST, by Ban-Con, Inc. Request to rezone 11.7 acres from
Rural to MMT-. 5 and preliminary plat the property for 17 quadrami^iums,
(68 units) . Located West of Center Way and North of 0Anewood Circle.
A public hearing.
B. DEER CREEK PUD AND REZONING, by T.G.C. Development Inc. Request for
UD concept approvalon C acres for single family, townhouse, quadra-
miniums, and commercial use; rezoning from Rural to RM 2. 5; preliminary
plat approval , and approval of an Environmental Assessment Worksheet.
Located East of Mitchell Road, South of Old Farm QurJs, and North of
Ridgewood West. A public hearing.
C. SUPERAMERICA STATION at Co.Rd. #4/T.H.#5. Request to rezone 1.3 acres
from Plan Study to Highway Commercial for constriction of a convenience
store and gas statien. Located in the Southwest corner of TH 5 and
CQ.Rd. 4. A public meeting.
D. AMERICAN FAMILY INSURANCE PHASE 2 BUILDING, by Rauenhorst Corporation,
Request to rezone approximately 3 acres ram Rural to office. -Located
West of present building at 6131 Blue Circle Drive. A public meeting.
V. OLO BUSINESS.
Vfr NEW BUSINESS.
VII . PLANNER'S REPORT.
YIII . JIDJiIURNKNT.
MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION
aoved
Monday, May 12, 1980 7 30 PN City !Hall
MEMBERS PRESENT: Vice-chairperson Liz Retterath, Grant Sutliff, Virginia Saw-bar.
Matthew Levitt, George Bentley.
MEMBERS- ABSENT: William Bearman, Hakon Torjesen(on leave of absence).
STAFF PRESENT: Chris Enger, Director of Planning; Jean Johnson, Assistant
Planner
I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA.
anner Chris notified the commission that Superamerica representatives
have asked for continuation to June 9, 1980 in order to allow then ample time
to work with COR to resolve access.
Motion
eRt ey moved, Sutliff seconded, to approve the agenda with the continuation
of the Superamerica public meeting item to June 9, 1980. Notion carried.
II. MINUTES OF APRIL 28 1980
t+anl-c ange Bentley moved to Retterath moved.
P.2,IV,A,Motion 3-change Sutliff seccnded to Gartner seconded.
P.3,Motion 1- change Bentley seconded to Sutliff seconded,
P.4,Motlon 2- change Retterath seconded to Levitt secortded.
Motion 3-change Retterath seconded to Sutliff seconded.
At bottom of page add-Sutliff expressed concern that the timefraw
for improving Tow<t l i ne Road should coincide with the ex tens i or of
Crosstown 62.
P.S,Motion-chanae Gartner seconded to Retterath seconded, -
Add vote- Motion carried 4:1 with Sutliff voting nay.
VI . change sentence to read-1. Discussion of cancelling May 269 1960
Meeting(Memoriai Day). Discussion continued to Pay 12, I980.
III . MEMBERS REPORTS None.
IV. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS:
A. RTH K WEST, by Ban-Con,Inc. Request to rezone 11. 7 acres from Rural
to RM 6.5 and preliminary plat the property for 17 quadraminiuws,
(68units) , Located west of Center Way and North of Lanewoiod Circle.
A public hear;ng. -`
Mr. Enger stated this project was rescheduled from the April 28. 1980 meeting after
incorrect notices were discovered.
ft. Mans Yaws Sail-bUn, inc. , located the project site in Th!! Preserve and
illustrated the lot3tion of existing single family and future multiple around
the site. He stated that the narrow portion of the 4084 foot buildings Vould _
be oriented towards the single family to give the Impression of additioml single
family, that the additional strip of land north of the ". thern cul-de-sac would
be dedicated to the Preserve Homeowners Association so vlat the plantings WNld
be maa i nta i ned by the association, and that the plan tastes advantop of ti eri;ag the
units upon the existing topography and maximizing the open spice.
The Planner summarized the concerns in the staff report as fo11ows: 1. Mlartt+mrn i
cul-de-sac should not be continued northward. 2. A revised landscape plan
should be submitted for review and approval prior to building permit issuance.
3. No plantings should- occur in City right-of-way, 4. t should work with
City Eniddition.
ineer to resolve storm water plans. S. Plat should be r*nam U to Iorttmark
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Bentley inquired why the southern cul -de-sac occurs adjacent to existing
single family. Mr. Enger replied that various alternatives were explored but
the topography of the site makes any other design difficult. Mr. Hagen agreed
that the location is not ideal but given the topo it was necessay and that
the plantings would butter the single family from the street.
Retterath asked how large of an area is being dedicated to the Preserve.
Mr. Hagen replied . 68 acres would be dedicated.
Bentley► asked where the nearest totlot is located. Larry Peterson, The Preserve,
replied in Westwind Addition.
Mr. Hagen did not feel that the quad units warrant an individual totlot because
their experience is that sales would be to young professionals and empty nesters.
Bob Dunbar,11270 Lanewood Circle, inquired why a gap in the landscaping occurs
along the east. Mr. Hagen responded that the gap occurs to facilitate drainage
and a break in the landscaping scene.
Mr. Dunbar then asked how the ground surfaces would be treated. Mr. Hagen replied
that all areas would be sodded.
Jay, Eberenz,11330 Lanewood Circle, commented that the Spring drainage in their
single family backyards is sometimes knee deep and hopes that this devel;,pment
will not contribute more water to this problem.
11280 Lan Circle,Gerald Gourley Lanewood C rc e, stated that Mr. Hagen has met with the
homeowners 3 or 4 times and has been very cooperative in working with the residents.
Motion 1 •
artner moved, Sutliff seconded, to close the public hearing on Northmark West.
Motion carried 4:0: 1 with Bentley abstaining. (Bentley abstained because of past
involvement in litigation against the developer) .
Motion 2:
Gartner moved, Levitt seconded, to recommend to the City Council approval of
the rezoning from Rural to RM 6. 5 as per the material dated Feb. 29, 1980 and
the staff report of April 22, 11M0, including that the plantings along the south
side of the southern cul -de-sac be included in a Preserve homeowners outlot.
Notion. carried 4:0: 1 with Bentley abstaining.
Motion 3:
Gartner moved, Levitt seconded, to recommend to the City Council approval of the
preliminary plat dated Feb. 29, 1980 as per the conditions in Motion2. Motion
carried 4:0:1 with Bentley abstaining.
B. DEER CREEK PJD AND REZONING, by T.G.C. Development, Inc. Request for PUB
Concept approval on 80 acres for single family,townhouse, quadraminiums,
and commercial use; rezoning from Rural to RM 2.5 preliminary plat approval ,
and approval of an Environmental Assessment Worksheet. Located East of Mitchell
Road , South of Old Farm , and North of Ridgewood West. A public hearing.
Mr. Bill Dolan, project engineer, located the project and outlined the proposed
uses: condominiums in 2 phases next to Mitchell Road, townhouses in the center
"{= by Orrin Thompson, single family adjacent to the creek, townhouses adjacent to
the flood plain, possible small commercial area east of Anderson Lakes Parkway,
and a 3 acre piece East of the creek which must be developed in conjunction
with property to the east or south for access.
approved
Planning Commission Minutes -3- May 12:, 1980
Bill F ierke Vice-President of Marketing Orrin Thompson, described the
new townhouse design which: improves the appearance has interchangeable 1 or
2 story designs for the same lot, will sell for $9,000 less than the present
quad -nit, and includes approximately 1 ,092 square feet with no expansion area.
He stated the inAal Cation of oitilitioc in ovory nthor c+meat 3e i..r.
cost saver in the project.
Mr. Enger outlined the staff' s concerns as: unbroken appearance of the units,
removal of the natural rolling terrain, destruction of the existing tree
stands, and N l l i,ig of the natural ponds on the site.
Bentley inquired if the exterior treatment would be varied between units.
Mr. Fierke replied they have 2 different elevations and that earth tone
colors would be used on the aluminium siccing with brick trim on garages.
Bentley asked if the developer could fit the units into the existing rolling
terrain. Mr. Dolan replied that the new townhouse units would not fit into the
terrain.
Levitt believed the construction of Andersor. Lakes Parkway would be crucial
to the deveiopn 'of this project.
3 Mr. Dolan ther.. _-strat A through the use of a revised plan how they could
save additional i::i;es, place totlots near the ponds, and reduce the amount' of
filling of the ponds.
Levitt asked how large of area the 2 totlot play spaces are. Mr. Dolan replied •
4 and � acre.
Bill F ierke stated that they would only expect . 23 children per unit and
that totlots would not be necessary in their opinion.
Mr. Er;ar added that the staff is asking the proponent to inventory the large trees
and pines, investigate a loop street and designing more curve into the streets.
Bentley raised the following concerns: 1 .Project exit through Old Farm is undesirable.
2. Is acceptance of this number of private streets advisable . 3 . Conservancy Line
should be noted can the plans. 4. Totlots placed next to ponds are undesirable.
S. Totlots should be larger. 6. Like to see overall flood plain use anticipated
by property owners.
Mr. Dolan objected to increasing the size of the totlots because he felt 10% land
dedication is all that Was necessary.
The Planner replied that land in lieu of cash park fee payment can bp accepted if
if accommodates the City' s overall neighborhood park plan, but that small totlots
are recommended for every 50 units in addition to payment of cash park fee.
Bryce Rowe, 14204 Chestnut Drive, had the following concerns: 1. Too many units
planned all of which have to use TH 5 and Mitchell Road. 2. Ponds should be retained
as they are an important wildlife habitat. 3. The rolling character should he protected.
Motion -Bentley moved Levitt seconded, to continue the publichearing on
Deer Creek
to June 9, 1980 as recommended in the staff report of May -8, 1980.
Motion carried unanimously.
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approved
Planning Commission Minutes -4- May- 129 1980
C. SUPERAMERICA STATION at Co. Rd. 4 and TH 5. Request to rezone 1 .3 acres
rom Plan Study to highway Commercial for construction of a convenience
store and gas station. Located in the Southwest corner of TH5 and Co.Rd.4.
A pu u i i V iiieti L i 9.
Continued to June 9, 1980 under Approval of Agenda,
D. AMERICAN FAMILY INSURANCE PHASE 2 3UILDING,by Rauenhorst Corporation. Request
to rezone approximately 3 acres from Rural to Office. Located wrest of present
building dt 6131 Blue Circle Drive. A public meeting.
Mr. Robert Worthington, Ratienitorst Corporation, stated the approved 1979 PUD
illustrates the phase 2 expansion, but between the concept stage and detail
plan drawing things got ahead of themselves and it was assumed by them and the
City building department that the site was zoned for the phase 2 construction,
and a footing - Permit was issued prior to actual zoning of the additional
acreage. He apologized for the circumstances and assured the commission that
concerns raised during the PUD review have been met in the design of phase 2.
He stated the building would have 3 stories, be coiistructed of brick , have the
same windows as the first building, have a skyway connection,and the proposed
parking preserves stands of oak trees.
The Planner reviewed the staff report outlining how Rauenhorst has met each of
the commission ' s concerns expressed during review of the PUD.
Sutliff inquired how many acres are remaining in the Opus PUD. Mr. Worthington
replied after rezoning of these 3 acres, approximately 4. 5 acres remain (phase 3) .
Levitt asked if the coverage of the site meets requirements under Ord. 135.
The Planner replied affirmative.
Levitt then asked how many parking spaces will be provided in phase 2. Mr. Mike
Ryan, Rauenhorst, replied 144 spaces.
The commission then discussed the continuation of construction, setbacks needed,
and -the inclusion of a ramp in the design of phase 3.
Nation
Levitt moved, Gartner seconded, to recommend to the City Council approval of the
rezoning from Rurrl to Office as per the plans dated April 30, 1980 and the staff -
report of May 9. 1980. Motion carried unanimously.
V. OLD BUSINESS
Levitt moved: Gartner seconded, to cancel the regularly scheduled meeting of
May 269 1980 ( Memorial Day ). Notion carried unanimously.
VI . NEW BUSINESS None
VIII. PLANNER'S REPORT
The Planner brelfed the Commission on the Edenbrooke project which may be
submitting an application to rezone the property from multiple family to
single family and that the City is pursuing changing the location of Dell Road
within the project area.
VIII . ADJOURNMENT. Gartner moved, Bentley seconded, to adjourn the meeting at 10:40 PM1.
Motion carried.