Planning Commission - 03/24/1980 AGEI4DA
EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION
M ONDA , hlAkCH 24 , 1980
7: 30 PM, CITY HALL
PLANNING COl'IMISSICN MEMBERS : Chairman William Bearman , Liz Retterath , Grant
Sutliff, Matthew Levitt , Virginia Gartner,
George Bentley and Hakon Torjesen
STAFF MEMBERS: Chris Enaer, Director of Planning
Jeanie Ohnsorg , Planning Secretary
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIAWE - ROLL CALL
I . SWEARING IN OF CO'MMISSION MEMBERS ELIZABETH RETTERATH AND GIANT
SUTLIFF
II . APPROVAL OF AGENDA
III . ELECTION OF OFFICERS
A. Chairman
B. Vice Chairman
C. Secretary
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF MARCH 10, 1580
V. MEMBERS REPORTS
VI. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
A. TIMBER ;,REEK, by B-T Lana Company. Request for Planned Unit
Development approval on 150 acres for 130' single family, 120
quardraminium units , 48 eightplex units , and 2. 3 acres Community
commercial site. A continued public hearing.
B. GARRISION FOREST FOURTi; ADDITION, by The Preserve. Request to
replat lots 2 & 3, Block 3, and Outlots F, G , H, & I , Garrison
Forest 2nd Addition for the purpose of moving onto 2 lots 2 pre -
built Votech homes ; and vacation of drainage and utility ease-
ments for lots 2 & 3 & O.L. I . Garrison Forest Second Addition.
A public hearing.
C. RYMARLAND CAMP 2nd ADDITION, by Milt Quam. Request to rezone 22
acres from Rural to R - 13. 5 and preliminary plat 42 lots for
single family detached homes. Located east of TH 101 and south
of Hidden Ponds Second Addition. A public hearing.
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Planning Commission Agenda Narch 24, 1960
D. CNERNE PUD & REZONING, by Lloyd Cherne. Request for PUD Concept
approval on 66 acres for office, industrial , and multiple resi-
dential uses; and rezoning and platting 5.5 acres from Rural to
I- 2 Park for construction of an office/warehouse building.
Located Sotith of Tudor Oaks and West of U.S. 169. A public
hearing.
E. CARDARELLF & ASSOC. , INC. OFFICE, request to rezone .8 acres
from Rural to Office and setback variances . Located in the Major
Center Ar•ea , east Gi Eden Road and west of 169, at 8123 Eden Rudd.
A public meeting.
F. ROSEMOUNT ENGINEERING, request to vacate excess right-of-way
:Tong the south sl o def W:st 78th Street.
VII . OLD BUSINESS
VIII . NEW BUSINESS
IX. PLANNER' S REPORT
X. ADJOURNMENT
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MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE PLANN'LNG C"ISSION
Unapproved
Monday, March 24, 1980 7:30 PH City Hall
C"ISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Cha i rown William Bearnwrn, George Bentley,
Matthew Levitt, Virginia Gartner, Liz
Retterath, and Grant Sutliff
C I SS ION MEMBERS ON
LEAVE OF ABSENCE: Hakon Torjesen
STAFF MEMBERS PRESENT: Chris Enger, Director of Planning
Jeanie Ohnsorg, Planning Secretary
I. SWEARING IN OF COMMISSION MEMBERS ELIZABETH RETTERATH AND GRANT
SUTLIFF
The Planner swore in Mrs. Retterath and Mr. Sutliff.
II . APPROVAL OF AGENDA
�> MOTION: Retterath moved, Bentley seconded to approve the agenda
as submitted. Motion carried 6 - 0.
Ill . ELECTION OF OFFICERS
A. CHAIRMAN
MOTION: Gartner moved , Bentley seconded to elect William
Bearman as Chairman. Motion carried 6 - 0.
B. VICE CHAIRMAN
MOTION: Gartner moved„ Levitt seconded to elect Elizabeth
Retterath as Vice Chairman. Motion carried 6 - 0.
C. SEICRETARY
MOTION: Gartner moved. Bentley seconded to elect Matthew
Levitt as secretary. Motion carried 6 - 0.
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF MARCH 10� 1980
Corrections: Page 1 , under Approval of minutes of February 11 ,
1980 in the motion the ward "abtaining" should be "abstaining'.
Page 2 the first paragraph should be eliminated. Page 2 , 8 Para-
graph "for the developer' should be added to the last sentence.
Same page final mot-Ion should state that it carried 4 - 0.
MOTION: Bentley moved, Gartner seconded to approve the minutes
as correctzd. Motion carried 4 - 0 - 2. (Retterath b Sutliff
abstaining)
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V. MEMBERS REPORT
NONE
VI . DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS
A. TIMBER CREEK, by B-T Land Company. Request for Planned Unit
Development approval on 150 acres for 136 single family, 120
quadraminium units, 48 eightplex units , and 2. 3 acres com-
munity commercial site. A cont;nued public hearing.
.Jack Lynch, B-T Land Company, gave a brief presentation of the
proposal . He explained that subsequent to the first Planning
:Commission meeting, they had revised their plan to respond to
the concerns of the residents and Commission. He then explained
the changes in the development proposal .
Levitt;i"utr'ed about the. dansity--on the different -arreas of the
proposal , and asked that thiF information be provided as a part
of the staff report.
Lynch stated that the density on the northern portion of this
site is 1 . 3 units/acre, and 2.9 units/acre on the souther por-
tion of the site excluding the laAd designated as parks.
Levitt .i nqui red about_.the proposed access onto County Road 4 _
and the traTfic impact this developm*nt would have '6ft Townl ine
Road.
The Planner stated that this was currently under study and
information would be provided.
Jeanie Pedric, 15816 North Lund Road, stated she was also con-
cerned about the access to the park, from the {North Lund Road
residents.
Gery Gorder 6717 168 Avenue Nest, inquired to what degree vege-
tation was to be preserved.
Mr. Lynch stated In the- northern area 1 ittle mass grading wits
expected and since the plan was for large lot single family,
that tr..:ch of the vegetation would remain. In the southern
area, much of the vegetation would be removed in the quadra-
minium area.
The Commission and residents had concerns over the access to
the parks, enchroachment into the flood plain, and the number
of cul-de-sacs.
MOTION: Retterath moved, Gartner seconded to continue the
Timber Creek public hearing to ' the April 14, 1980 meeting and
instructed the staff to prepare a report. Motion tarried 6 - 0.
B. GARRISON FORE'ST FOURTH ADDITION, by The Preserve. Request to
rep at lots lock 3. and Uui ' . ts, F, G, H, b 1 , Garrison
Forest 2nd Addition for the purpose of moving onto- 2 lets 2
prebuilt Vo-Tech 'dares ; and vacation of drainage and utility
_ easements for lots 2 a 3 A O.L. i , Garrison Forest Second Addi«
tion. A public hearing.
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Mr. Gertz, re;-:resenting The Preserve, gavea brief presentation
expl a i n i ng the changes i n 1 of 1 ines and the reasons for these changes.
The Commission had discussion regarding the impact of the
future Anderson Lakes Park way in this project.
Bearman asked for audience comments, there were none.
NOTION: Gartner moved, Retterath seconded to close the public
hearing. Motion carried 6 - 0.
MOTION: Gartner moved, Retterath seconded to recommend to the
City Council approval of the Garrison repl at of Lots 2, 3, and
Outlot I , Block 3, Garrison Forest 2nd Addition and Outlots , F,
G, and H according to the plat dated 3-3-80, per the staff
report dated 3-20-80. Motion carried 6 - 0.
MOTION: Gartner moved, Retterath seconded to recommend to the
City Council approval of the vacation of easements along lot
lines of Lots 2, 3, and Outlot I , Garrison Forest 2nd addition
according to the plat dated 3-3-80 and per the staff report
dated 3-20-80. Notion carried 6 - 0.
C. RYMARLAND CAMP 2nd ADDITION, by Milt Quam. Request to rezone
22 acres from Rural to R -i3. 5 and preliminary plat 42 lots
for single family detached homes. Located past of TH 101 aid
south of Hidden Ponds Second Addition. A public hearing.
Rick Sather, McCombs-Knutson, gave a brief explanation of the
proJt.:t explaining the changes in density.
Levitt inquired about the road systems , the road frontages and
the safety of the access onto highway 101 .
Sather explained the road systems and the amount of land allowed
for their frontages. He stated that the projects auin access
is onto highway 101 .
Levitt inquired if any type of berming was planned for -,long
Dell Road for noise abatement.
The Planner stated that there are no plans at this time but
feels thet smothing should be done for noise abatement.
The Commission also had corcerrs over the utility connections
and the safety of the recreational facilities.
Bev_ BEhlmer, 18920 Pheasant Circle, stated that she still feels
that the access onto 101 is unsafe.
Charles Rockler, 19060 Deerfield Trail , inquired about the
recreational - tacilities stating thatif the recreational facilities
in this project are to be ;private, there will be no public park
areas near the already existing -bares.
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The Planner stated that this concern would be handled
through the Parks, Recreation, and Natural Resources Com-
mission.
The Planner went over the recommendations of the staff report.
MOTION: Levitt moved, Sutliff seconded to close the public
hearing. Motion carried 6 - 0.
MOTION: Levitt moved, Bentley secondeu to recommend to the
City Council approval of Ryinarl and Camp 2nd Addition ' s
request to rezone from Rural to R1-13. 5 according to the plat
dated 2-29-80 per the staff report a:ted 3-19-80 provided that
the following three items be added: Frontages be brought up
to a minimum of 90' of width at building setback; subject to
award of Dell Road/Valley View Road bid; Rrd provided that
landscaping and berming be done to the sL. � :sfaction of the
staff for noise abatement. Motion carried 6 - 0.
MOTION: Levitt moved, Bentley seconded to recommend to the
City Council approval of Rymarland Camp 2nd Addition ' s request
for preliminary platting of 42 lots according to the plat
dated 2-29-80 and per the staff report dated 3-19-80 provided
that the followin., three items be added: Frontages be brought
up to a minimum of 90' of width at building setback; subject
to award of Dell Road/Valley View Road bid; and provided that
landscaping and berming be done to the satisfaction of the
astaff for noise abatement. Motion carried 6 - 0.
D. CHERNE PUD & REZONING, by Lloyd Cherne. Request for PUD con-
cept approval on 66 acres for office, industrial , and multiple
residential uses; and rezoning and platting 5. 5 acres from
Rural to I-2 Park for construction of an office/warehouse
building. Located south of Tudor Oaks and West of U,S. 169.
A public hearing.
Phil Pescola, Des fgn Management, gave a brief presentation of the
proposed project, explaining the location and the building
structure.
Levitt inquired what type of use was proposed for this building.
Lloyd Cherne, owner, stated taht he plans this building to be
used as an office and manufacturing plant. He also stated that
he eventually plans this building to be completely office with-
out the manufacturing.
Beaman asked where the development would obtain its access.
He also inquired about the road systems between this devel -
opment and Tudor Oaks.
Phil Pescola stated -that this development would be obtaining
temporary access on Schooner Boulevard through Tudor Oaks and
would in the future have its permanent access on 169.
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Tiie Ccqm i ss i on also had concerns over the elevation drop on
the proposed roadF , the sloping within the developmei-it site ,
and the amount of truck traffic this development would have.
MOTION: Gartner moved, Retterath seconded to continue this
item to the April 14, 1980 meeting. Motion carried 6 - 0.
E. CARDARELLE & ASSOC. INC. OFFICE, request to rezone .8 acres from
Rural to Mice and setSaW variances . Located in the Major Cen-
ter Area , east of Eden Road and west of 169, at 8123 Eden Road.
A public meeting.
Mr. Cardarelle gave a brief explanation of his request. he
explained the location and shape of his site , the type of
building proposed and the proposed parking area.
Cev:tt inquired about the road systems and where this project
would obta 'n its access .
Cardarelle replied that access would, be completely from Eden
Road.
Bentley inquired if this project met the City' s setback
requi remer!Ls .
The Planner replied that a waiver was being sought to allow
parking within the frontyard setbacks.
The Commission also had concerns over the signage and the
building of the retaining walls.
Mr. Cardarelle stated that he would build all retaining walls
and provide sidewalk easements.
The Planner went over the recommendation of the staff report
dated 3-20-80.
MOTION: Bentley moved, Retterath seconded to recommend to the
City Council approval of the request by Cardarelle & Assoc.
Inc. Office for rezoning of .8 acres from Rural to Office
District with setback variances according to the plan dated
2-25-80 and the recommendations of the staff report dated
3-20-80 provided that the following item be added : Cardarelle
to build retaining walls and provide sidewalk easawits along
T.N. 169 and Eden Road.
F. ROSDKIaM . ENGINEERING, request to vacate excess right-of-way
along the south Pro of West 78th Street.
MOTION: Gartner moved,, Retterath seconded to recommend to
the City Council vacation of the excess right--of-way along
the soup side of ilest 78th Street. Not ion carried 6 - 0.
V I I . AD BUSINESS - 'Norge
V I I I. #N BITS TWESr - N6ne
IX. PLANNER' S REPORT - None
X. ADJOURNMENT
NOTION: Gartner moved, Bentley seconded to adjourn the meeting
at 11 :00. Motion carried 6 - 0.