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Planning Commission - 09/10/1990 AGENDA EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION Monday, September 10, 1990 7:30 p.m. COMMISSION MEMBERS: Chairperson Christine Dodge, Tim Bauer, Julianne Bye, Robert Hallett, Karen Norman, Charles Ruebling, Doug Sandstad. STAFF MEMBERS: Chris Enger, Director of Planning; Michael Franzen, Senior Planner, Don Uram, Planner; Deb Edlund, Recording Secretary. Pledge of Allegiance -- Roll Call I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA II. MEMBERS REPORTS III. MINUTES IV. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS A. HEDOUIST ADDITION, (90-08-P) by Don Hedquist. • Request for Preliminary Plat on 3 .9 acres into 5 single family lots and road right-of-way with variances for lot frontage on a public road to be reviewed by the Board of Appeals. Location: 12900 Gerard Drive. A continued public hearing. V. OLD BUSINESS A. ANDERSON LAKES CENTER 2ND ADDITION (EDEN PRAIRIE POST OFFICE) 1. Review of Architectural Plans VI. PLANNER'S REPORT A. Composting Ordinance B. Historical Preservation Ordinance VII. ADJOURNMENT agenda\910 • EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION • APPROVED MINUTES MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 10, 1990 7:30 PM CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS 7600 Executive Drive COMMISSION MEMBERS: Chairperson Christine Dodge, Tim Bauer, Julianne Bye, Robert Hallett, Karen Norman, Charles Ruebling, Doug Sandstad. STAFF MEMBERS: Don Uram, Planner; Steve Durham, Zoning Administrator; Sandy Werts, Recreation Supervisor; Deb Edlund, Recording Secretary. ROLL CALL: I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA MOTION: Bauer moved, seconded by Sandstad to approve the Agenda as published. Motion carried 5-0-0. • H. MEMBERS REPORTS III. MINUTES MOTION: Sandstad moved, seconded by Bauer to approve the Minutes of the August 27, 1990 Planning Commission meeting as published. Motion carried 6-0-1. Dodge abstained. IV. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS A. REDOUIST ADDITION, by Don Hedquist. Request for Preliminary Plat of 3.9 acres into five single family lots and road right-of-way with variances for lot frontage on a public road to be reviewed by the Board of Appeals. Location: 12900 Gerard Drive. A continued public hearing. Frank Cardarelle, representing the proponent, presented a plan with only one road easement. The storm sewer could be located between Lot 3 and 4. Cardarelle stated that after the last meeting Staff and the proponent re- evaluated the use of private driveways versus the use of a common • driveway and it was Staffs belief that a public turn-around with 3 flag lots would provide the best design. • Don Uram reported that Staff recommended that the storm sewer outlet be extended to the 865 contour. Uram stated that after further review it appeared that additional trees would not be saved with the use of a common driveway. He added that Staff recommended common driveways should be avoided if possible. Homeowners preferred their own driveways, and therefore, Staff recommended that flag lots be approved. Uram noted that prior to Final Plat Approval a specific building plan would be required for Lot #5. Hallett asked if the City had the legal authority to require a specific building plan. Uram replied that a City Council approval would make it legal. Floyd Siefferman, Jr., 6997 Edgebrook Place, stated that he was pleased that a public road was being used. Siefferman was concerned about the trees being removed from the site, especially 5 large oak trees. Siefferman recommended that the trees removed be planted at the 908 contour, just north of where the trees were being removed. Jerrold T. Miller, 7120 Gerard Drive, asked for clarification on what a flag lot was. Uram explained a flag lot. Miller asked what the advantage would be for flag lots over a public road. Uram replied that a public road would require a 50-foot right-of-way and setback requirements would also • be required. Miller recommended the use of common driveways. Uram noted that originally only one driveway would be constructed. Cardarelle explained that there was enough room provided for the construction of 3 driveways if necessary; however, only one common driveway would be constructed. Ruebling asked when a Tree Replacement Plan would be prepared for the Staff. Cardarelle replied that a preliminary plan was available at this time; he would continue to work with Staff prior to approval by the City Council. Bauer stated that he was uncomfortable with making a recommendation as to where the trees would be replanted. Uram replied that the Tree Replacement Ordinance recommended locations for replacement and Staff would take into consideration the suggestion by Siefferman. MOTION 1• Bye moved, seconded by Sandstad to close the public hearing. Motion carried 7-0-0. MOTION 2• • Bye moved, seconded by Sandstad to recommend to the City Council approval of the request of Don Hedquist for Preliminary Plat of 3.9 acres, to be known as the Hedquist Addition, for five single family lots and road right-of-way, with variances for lot frontage to be reviewed by the Board of Appeals, based on plans dated August 24, 1990, subject to the recommendations of the Staff Reports dated September 7 and June 22, 1990. Motion carried 7-0-0. V. OLD BUSINESS A. ANDERSON LAKES CENTER 2ND ADDITION (EDEN PRAIRIE POST OFFICE) 1. Review of Architectural Plans Brian Marshall, U. S. Postal Service, stated that the design portion of the project was approximately 30% complete at this time. Chip Ludike, representing the proponent, reviewed the site plan. The building would located in the center of the property. One side of the building would be for public use and the other portion of the • building would be used for operational activities. Ludike stated that generous landscaping would be provided. A drive-thru would be provided for service boxes. Norman asked if a traffic study was done regarding the times for school buses and mail truck traffic. Uram replied that he could speak with the City Engineering Department about a stop light. Sandstad asked how the truck traffic would be handled. Larry Brown, representing the proponent, replied that 2 semi-truck deliveries would bring the mail to the Post Office. One truck would arrive at 5:30 AM and the other would arrive late in the evening, well after peak traffic hours. The Post Office would house approximately 50 jeep type vehicles. Sandstad asked if the jeeps would go through the residential area when dispersing. Ludike replied that not all of the vehicles would leave at one time. Ludike stated that two brick colors would be used for the exterior of the facility. The main entrance and the storage area would be of a darker brick, while the work area would be a lighter shade. Clear glass would be used, but would not be visible from the exterior of the building. Samples of the brick and glass colors . were presented to the Planning Commission. Ruebling believed that the plantings would help to break up the • large mass appearance of the wall. Ludike replied that the evergreens would be approximately 6-8' tall. There would be a variety of both young and mature trees. Sandstad asked if the building would be visible from Highway 169. Steve Hustad, U. S. Postal Service, replied that a wooden fence retaining wall would be constructed to provide screening. Dodge asked if the proponent was in concurrence with the Staff recommendations. Uram replied that the Post Office had agreed to return to the Planning Commission prior to Building Permit Issuance for further review of the plan. MOTION: Sandstad moved, seconded by Bye to recommend to the City Council approval of the architectural plans for the Eden Prairie Post Office, based on plans dated September 4, 1990, subject to the recommendations of the Staff Report dated September 7, 1990. Motion carried 7-0-0. VI. PLANNER'S REPORT • A. Composting Ordinance Steve Durham, Zoning Administrator, stated that the current City Code did not address the issues related to compost. The proposed Ordinance would be an amendment to Chapter 9 of the City Code. New State Laws now prohibit the disposal of yard waste in landfills. The Ordinance would permit composting and would provide necessary guidelines. The ordinance would define a compost and yard waste. A nuisance would be defined according to State Statues. Violations of the Ordinance would be considered a misdemeanor. Durham asked the Planning Commission to recommend the Ordinance for approval to the City Council. The Ordinance would be presented to the Waste Commission on Thursday, September 13, 1990. Bauer believed that lawn clippings placed in the garden area would be in violation of the Ordinance as it was currently written. Bauer believed in the concept of the Ordinance, but believed that an exception for garden mulching should be added to the Ordinance. Bauer added that he did propose to make the Ordinance too restrictive. Carol Dean, 8613 Darnel Road, stated that every year their neighbor brings in approximately 100 bags of compost onto his property. Sandstad believed that this could be resolved by limiting that clippings could only come from their own property. Durham stated that a properly maintained compost should produce only a minimal amount of odor. Dean noted that some garbage companies still would take grass clippings. Bauer believed that the concept was good, but the language should be fine tuned. He also believed that composting would be done more and more in the future and the City should address the issue now. Durham believed that an exception could be added regarding gardens. Bauer stated that the Ordinance as written would eliminate the problem for the Dean's because it would not allow clippings to be brought onto the property from an outside source. Uram stated that Staff had wanted to begin the Ordinance as restrictive and then ease up if necessary. • Durham noted that most zoning issues were based on a complaint basis only. Uram added that the Ordinance could always be amended if necessary. Bauer believed that grass clippings would be a large issue over the next several years. Hallett stated that all the articles written today recommend that the grass clippings be left on the lawn. Jim Dean, 8613 Darnel Road, believed that something should be done about where clippings could be dumped. Dean added that he did not see a problem with dumping clippings on a garden area, but did not believe that it was necessary to bring clippings from outside your own property. Bauer concurred that significant issues had been raised. Durham requested that the Planning Commission make specific recommendations for changes to give Staff direction. Ruebling asked if it would be possible to write a garden area exception. Durham asked if the Planning Commission would recommend approval • with a garden exception. Hallett agreed that a setback distance should be left in the Ordinance. Bauer recommended a possible height restriction of 6 inches. MOTION: Norman moved, seconded by Bye to recommend to the City Council adoption of the proposed ordinance regarding composting and yard waste as presented to the Commission on September 10, 1990 with an amendment of the garden exception and a "definition" of a garden. Ruebling believed that it was important to include the definition of a garden and to limit the thickness allowed. Bauer requested that it be stressdd that compost could not be brought onto the property from an outside source. Motion carried 7-0-0. B. Historical Preservation Ordinance Sandra Werts stated that the main purpose for the request of the Ordinance was to allow the City to become a Certified Local Government, which would allow for the City to apply for Federal funding for historical • preservation. Werts added that only 19 Certified Local Governments existed in Minnesota. In order to become a Certified Local Government the City needed to have a Historical Preservation Ordinance and Committee in place. Werts believed that the City had sites of historical significance which needed to be preserved. Werts also believed that it was important for the City to have a survey of the historical properties done. Werts stated that the Ordinance was based on the Stillwater Ordinance and had been reviewed by the State Historical Preservation Officer. Sandstad asked if they knew how many archeological sites were located in Eden Prairie. Werts replied there were maps available which showed the locations of historical sites. She added that funding could be used to improve the map and to actually designate sites. Uram reported that this Ordinance would be an amendment to Chapter 11 of the City Code and would return to the Planning Commission for a Public Hearing. Ruebling asked if Staff had any comments on the memo from the City Attorney. Uram replied that Staff did not have any comments at this time on the memo. • Dodge believed that some problems could be solved in advance if the City had an ordinance in place. John Hensrud stated that the Historical and Cultural Commission would like to see the Ordinance move along. He added that the Historical and Cultural Commission would like comments from the Planning Commission on any areas of concern. The Planning Commission concurred that they agreed in concept with the Ordinance. Bye believed that the Ordinance would be important to open up funding possibilities. Werts clarified that the funds would provided to conduct studies, etc., but would not be used for the purchase of sites. Norman believed that the definition of a site should be clarified. Dodge asked if this needed to be heard in a Public Hearing format. Uram replied yes. Ruebling believed that it was important to have guidelines in place to handle issues. Bauer did not agree with a wait and see attitude. Bye believed that the City should take a proactive approach. MOTION: Bye moved, seconded by Sandstad to forward to the City Council the Planning Commission's favorable recommendation for the approval of a Historical Preservation Ordinance. Motion carried 7-0-0. VH. ADJOURNMENT MOTION• Hallett moved, seconded by Norman to adjourn the meeting at 9:10 PM. Motion carried 7-0-0.