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Planning Commission - 09/23/1991 • AGENDA EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COND41SSION Monday, September 23, 1991 7:30 p.m. COMNIISSION MEMBERS: Chairperson Charles Ruebling, Tim Bauer, Robert Hallett, Karen Norman, Doug Sandstad, James Hawkins and Katherine Kardell STAFF MEMBERS: Chris Enger, Director of Planning; Michael Franzen, Senior Planner; Don Uram, Planner; Deb Edlund, Recording Secretary Pledge of Allegiance -- Roll Call I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA H. MEMBERS REPORTS M. MINUTES • IV. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS A. BLUFFS EAST 11TH ADDITION (91-23-Z-P-PUD) by Hustad Development Corporation. Request for Planned Unit Development District Review within the overall Bluff Country PUD on 4.23 acres with waivers for average lot width; Zoning District Change from Rural to R1- 9.5 on 2.43 acres and R1-13.5 on 1.8 acres; Preliminary Plat of 4.23 acres into 12 single family lots and road right-of-way to be known as Bluffs East llth Addition. Location: . North of Bluff Road, west of Falcons Way. V. OLD BUSINESS VI. PLANNER'S REPORTS A. Discussion of Downtown Eden Prairie - a review of plans by Cluts, O'Brien and Strothers B. Discussion of Trash Enclosure Ordinance C. Discussion of Public Hearing Notices • VII. ADTOURNMENT EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION APPROVED MINUTES MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 23, 1991 7:30 PM CITY HALL,COUNCIL CHAMBERS 7600 Executive Drive COMIVIISSION MEMBERS: Tim Bauer, Robert Hallett, James Hawkins, Katherine Kardell, Karen Norman, Charles Ruebling, Doug Sandstad. STAFF MEMBERS: Chris Enger, Director of Planning; Michael Franzen, Senior Planner; Deb Edlund, Recording Secretary ROLL CALL: Sandstad absent. I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA MOTION: Bauer moved, seconded by Kardell to approve the Agenda as published. Motion carried 5-0-0. H. MEMBERS REPORTS M. MINUTES MOTION: Norman moved, seconded by Hallett to approve the Minutes of the August 26, 1991 Planning Commission meeting with the following addition before the approval of Minutes: Hawkins arrived. Motion carried 3-0-2. Bauer and Kardell abstained. IV. DEVELOPMENT PROPOSALS A. BLUFFS EAST 11TH ADDITION (91-23-Z-P-PUD) by Hustad Development Corporation. Request for Planned Unit Development District Review within the overall Bluff Country PUD on 4.23 acres with waivers for average lot width; Zoning District Change from Rural to Rl- • 9.5 on 2.43 acres and R1-13.5 on 1.8 acres; Preliminary Plat of 4.23 acres into 12 single family lots and road right-of-way to be known as Planning Commission Minutes September 23, 1991 Bluffs East 11th Addition. Location: North of Bluff Road, west of Falcons Way. (A public hearing) Hawkins arrived. Randy Hedlund, representing the proponent, presented the plans for the 12 single family addition. Five lots would be zoned R1-13.5 and seven lots zoned R1-9.5. Hedlund stated that the storm sewer was being constructed with the Bluffs East 8th Addition. He noted that the proponent would like to have the roadway construction completed yet this fall. Franzen reported that this plan was straight forward as many of the issues had been addressed in previous PUD approvals. As a result of meetings with Staff and neighbors, it was determined that the lots adjacent to the roadway would be R1-13.5 or greater, and the inner lots could be smaller. Franzen noted that the two tier zoning was consistent with the PUD. Franzen stated that Mark Charles would be.the builder on this project and • the homes would be priced at $200,000 and up. Franzen reported that Staff recommended approval based on the recommendations outlined in the Staff Report dated September 20, 1991. Hallett asked if the Bluff East loth Addition was on hold. Franzen replied that the Bluffs East loth Addition had been approved by the Planning Commission and had 1st Reading approval of the City Council. Hawkins asked if there were sidewalks along Bluff Road. Beth Simonson, representing the proponent, replied yes. MOTION 1: Kardell moved, seconded by Bauer to close the public hearing. Motion carried 6-0-0. MOTION 2: Kardell moved, seconded by Bauer to recommend approval of the request of Hustad Development Corporation for Planned Unit Development District Review on 4.23 acres of the overall Bluff Country Planned Unit Development, with waivers for average lot width, and Zoning District • Change from Rural to R1-9.5 on 2.43 acres and from Rural to R1-13.5 on 1.8 acres, all to be knov?n as Bluffs East 11th Addition, based on plans dated September 9, 1991, subject to the recommendations of the Staff Report dated September 20, 1991. Motion carried 6-0-0. Planning Commission Minutes September 23, 1991 MOTION 3: Kardell moved, seconded by Bauer to recommend approval of the request of Hustad Development Corporation for Preliminary Plat of 4.23 acres into 12 single family lots and road right-of-way, to be known as Bluffs East llth Addition, based on plans dated September 9, 1991, subject to the recommendations of the Staff Report dated September 20, 1991. Motion carried 6-0-0. V. OLD BUSINESS Hallett reported that he had attended the meeting regarding the airport expansion. He stated that approximately 500 residents attended, and it was an excellent chance for the residents to voice their opinions. Hallett said that MAC had requested a waiver for the additional 500 feet of runway requested by the FAA and that this request was holding up the Environmental Impact.Study. • Enger believed that the meeting had gone well and added that the residents had expressed their views very clearly. Kardell asked if other Commissioners had received an invitation to the Heritage Foundation Meeting. Don Brauer replied that all the Commissioners had been asked to attend along with one representative from the other Commissions. All Commissioners noted that they also had received invitations and discussed who would be available to attend. Bauer asked for an update on the Wal-Mart proposal and the dropping of the dull track plan. Enger replied that the City Council had decided to address the Wal- Mart and the hold still agreement as separate issues. The Highway 169 site was discussed, and a realtor had been hired to contact the appropriate property owners. The realtor found the existing facilities to have a higher occupancy rate than originally estimated and also found unwilling sellers. The only option would be for the City to begin condemnation. The estimated prices for acquisition and demolition began at approximately$2.9 million. The prices for the property from the landowners was estimated at approximately $3.9 million. It was determined that the dull track approach was not practical or feasible and the City would not "chase the deal". The City Attorney advised the City Council that the hold still agreement could not be enforced as part of a zoning agreement. Enger stated that 3 Planning Commission Minutes September 23, 1991 the plan as approved with Wal-Mart facing the west was acceptable for the downtown area. He noted that having the Wal-Mart face Highway 169 had been recommended by Staff which was the result of previous discussions with Homart Development. VI. PLANNER'S REPORTS A. Discussion of Downtown Eden Prairie - a review of plans by Cluts, O'Brien and Strothers Enger reported that on July 16, 1991 the City had hired Cluts, O'Brien and Strothers to develop possible land use plans for the downtown area. Enger introduced Dan O'Brien. Enger noted that these plans being presented were very general and were not final plans. Enger stated that this would be an informal session to express thoughts on the plans presented. • Dan O'Brien presented the design plans for the downtown area. He noted that the name suggested for the downtown area was Eden Prairie Market Center. O'Brien believed the setting to be unique due to the proximity of the regional shopping center and the regional park. Hallett questioned if the park was actually considered a regional park or a City park. O'Brien noted that Singletree Lane was the connection link between the park and the center. He pointed out the parcels in the area which were left open for development. Hallett asked if the costs would be greater to develop a regional park in lieu of a City park. He questioned if more facilities would be necessary if it were to develop as a regional park. Enger replied that the City was looking at some funding from several agencies for development of the park. addressed. Enger added that he believed that park would sometimes serve a regional function, because it was in a regional shopping area. Enger stated that he would ask the Park&Recreation Department to come to a Planning Commission meeting to update the Commission on exactly what was being planned for the park. Hawkins stated that he had received several calls related to the current 4 Planning Commission Minutes September 23, 1991 bulldozing going on in this area and residents were questioning possible encroachment into the wetlands. Enger replied that the filling was being done at the edge of the wetland area. Don Brauer added that wetland areas which were not managed eventually turned into garbage dumps. Enger noted that this development was all part of long-term plans by the City. Enger stated that the City had purchased the 51/2 acre site for the park entrance. O'Brien believed that an important decision to be made was whether the City wanted just a City Hall to house the business offices of the City or if it wanted to create a Civic Center which could create a sense of place for the City. O'Brien added that the-creation of a Civic Center would be a larger undertaking. O'Brien outlined the areas to be developed as follows: • Alternates A &B had poor soil conditions but could possibly be a site for the City Hall. Alternate C was approximately 3 city blocks long and could be developed as retail, City Hall, or multiple-family dwellings. Alternate D was the area between Wal-Mart and Highway 169. Alternate E was the area between the Wal-Mart parking lot and Prairie Center Drive. Alternate F would probably develop as a medical facility. Alternate G would be created as a result of the relocation of Technology Drive and could be developed as retail, office, or hotel/convention center. Alternate H was adjacent to Lake Idlewild and could be developed as multiple-family housing. Hallett questioned if the roadway systems would be able to handle all of the additional traffic in this area. O'Brien replied that the roads would be signalized. Enger replied that there would be traffic problems in this area. Enger added that it was very important to create the appropriate land use mix to minimize the traffic problems. Enger stated that double turn-lanes would be constructed to aid traffic distribution. Hallett asked where people would park when using the park. Enger replied that the 51/2 acre purchase of land for the park entrance would 5 Planning Commission Minutes September 23, 1991 provide space for adequate parking for normal use. Special event parking could be a problem. O'Brien presented five different layouts for the downtown area. Design A - The City Hall site would be adjacent to the park entrance. There would be pedestrian overpasses and the design presented a more urban scheme. The buildings would be closer to the road and presented a massive appearance for the entrance to the downtown area. A water tower would draw focus to the center of town. O'Brien noted that consideration needed to be given to the convenience of pedestrian traffic crossing over to the regional park and shopping center. All of the plans would have a mix of land uses to include: City, entertainment, retail, housing, medical, and industrial. Design B - The City Center would be separated from the Regional Park. • There would be a focal entrance point. The design was a suburban design which was more spacious. O'Brien stated that the parcel between Flagship and Highway 169 could be the site for a conference center/hotel. Norman believed that the ice arena was a big part of the Major Center Area and believed that the City should give consideration to a location for a ice arena. Design C - The City Center would be closer to the regional shopping center and Lake Idlewild. The City Center would be more detached from the regional park. A parking ramp could possibly be developed as part of the Wal-Mart parking lot. The water tower would be located at the intersection of Highway 169 and the regional center. Pedestrian overpasses over Highway 169 would be part of the design. Design D - City Hall would be adjacent to Flagship and the Broadmoor Apartments. This site would not be large enough to house a Civic uses and would only house the business offices of the City. Higher density multiple housing would be located next to lake Idlewild. The water tower would be located at the intersection of Highway 169 and Singletree Lane. 6 Planning Commission Minutes September 23, 1991 Design E - Luxury condos would be developed by Flagship. No City Civic uses or City Hall were part of this design. The development would be primarily retail in nature. The residential area would be developed next to Lake Idlewild. Enger noted that once the City Council determined a site for City Hall it would significantly impact these plans. He added that the City Council had indicated that they would like to see the City Hall located in the Major Center Area. Enger noted that without the City Center as part of the overall plan, the land use mix was not as diverse. Bauer believed that the plans made sense for long-term development but and further believed that it would require a very strong City Council to develop any of these proposals. Enger replied that these plans were more current and market responsive. Enger believed that the only problem would be the question of the City Hall site. He added that the Wal-Mart decision had been made. Enger stated that other than City Hall there • would be tax increment money available to help provide urban design features in the area. Don Brauer believed that at some point the City might have to expend money in order to get what it wanted to see developed in this area. Ferrick believed that the City Hall site was a major catalyst. Ferrick complimented O'Brien on the many options and possibilities for the area. He noted that the Teman property would also be developing soon. Hawkins believed that there was an attractiveness in having the City Center developed in this area. Norman stated that she would not like to see high rise buildings developed in parcel A. She added that she would like to see a City Center developed in Alternate A without the business offices of the City. Ferrick believed that Alternates A and C 1 tied well together and would offer many combinations for development. Enger stated that the critical parts of this plan are short-term. He Planning Commission Minutes September 23, 1991 concurred with Ferrick that the Teman parcel would be under pressure soon to develop and would be developed as retail. Enger believed that the Wal-Mart facility as finally approved by the City would fit well in the plans for the downtown area and also that Staff was now better prepared to deal with the Teman parcel. Enger further believed that a large portion of this area would be developed within the next 2 years. Hallett believed that if City Hall would require a bond referendum, it would not pass. Enger stated that the City Council had indicated support for the development of a downtown area. O'Brien re-emphasized that it was important to decide if Eden Prairie wanted a City Hall or a Civic Center. Norman believed that a Civic Center would be more important than just • a City Hall. Brauer believed that it was important to have an identifiable place for the City's activities. Hawkins asked if bikeways and pedestrian walkways would be part of these plans. O'Brien believed that this was a major issue which needed to be addressed carefully. The Planning Commission concurred that they did not like the plans with the City Center closer to Highway 169 or without the City Center at all. MOTION: Kardell moved, seconded by Hawkins to table Items B & C on the Agenda. Motion carried 6-0-0. B. Discussion of Trash Enclosure Ordinance - a review of Staff recommendations to increase effectiveness of screening trash enclosures. C. Discussion of Public Hearing Notices 8 Planning Commission Minutes September 23, 1991 VII. ADJOURNMENT MOTION: Bauer moved, seconded by Hawkins to adjourn the meeting at 10:00 p.m.. Motion carried 6-0-0. 9