Planning Commission - 09/28/1992 EDEN PRAHU E PLANNING COMMISSION
APPROVED MINUTES
MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 28, 1992 7:30 PM CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
7600 Executive Drive
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Tim Bauer, Ken Clinton, Cynthia Clish, Katherine
Kardell, Karen Norman, Doug Sandstad, Mary Jane
Wissner.
STAFF MEMBERS: Mike Franzen, Senior Planner; Jan Schneider,
Substitute Recording Secretary
ROLL CALL: Kardell was absent.
I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION: Norman moved, seconded by Wissner to approve the Agenda as published. Motion
• carried 6-0.
H. MEMBERS REPORTS
Sandstad reminded members that this was the last day to contribute to the United Way Fund
Drive.
III. MINUTES
Clinton moved, seconded by Wissner to review the September 14, 1992 Minutes at the next
meeting due to lack of a quorum. Motion carried 6-0.
IV. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. FAIRFIELD SOUTH by Centex Real Estate Corp. Request for Zoning District Change from
Rural to R1-13.5 on 16.2 acres and from Rural to R1-9.5 on 26.6 acres and Preliminary Plat of
49.9 acres into 94 lots, 4 outlots and road right-of-way. Location: North of County Road 1,
west of Braxton Drive.
Dan Blake, representing the proponent, presented a diagram of the proposed Fairfield South
addition. He stated that it is a continuation of the existing Fairfield project. He stated that this
project originated in 1988 with two neighborhoods; the R1-9.5 lots which were north and west
• of the pond and the executive R1-13.5 lots which were south and east of the pond. The proposal
is to develop 65 lots into R1-9.5 and 29 lots into the R1-13.5 zoning district. The homes will
be built to City standards with landscaping and berming similar to the other Centex additions
adjacent to this site. No two homes across, beside or diagonal from each other will be built or
painted the same.
Sandstad asked where the sidewalks and trails will be located. Blake replied along Braxton Drive
according to the plan that the Park Staff has developed.
Franzen stated that the R1-9.5 district has a place in Eden Prairie even if it does not provide
starter housing because it provides for lower cost housing and helps maintain housing diversity.
If the Commission concurs with this, then this is a reasonable subdivision and it is not out of
character.
Sandstad asked if the wetland is relocating. Blake stated no, they are changing the elevation of
the wetland.
Sandstad asked how close is this development to the proposed Marsh Creek Golf Course. Blake
replied there is an 85 acre site between the two which is approximately 1/3 mile.
No citizens were present for the public hearing.
Norman asked if Centex has overbuilt R1-9.5 lots. Dan Blake stated that this is an extension of
the Fairfield addition and that it is the same size with the same lot sizes proposed.
• Wissner asked approximately how many total lots has Centex developed. Blake responded by
stating 500.
Bauer stated that the R1-9.5 issue is a complex one, but feels it meets economic needs at this
time and contributes to housing diversity.
MOTION 1:
Bauer moved, seconded by Norman to close the public hearing. Motion carried 6-0.
MOTION 2:
Bauer moved, seconded by Norman to recommend to the City Council approval of the request
of Centex Real Estate Corp. for a Zoning District Change from Rural to R1-13.5 on 16.6 acres
and from Rural to R1-9.5 on 26.6 acres based on plans dated September 11, 1992, revised plans
dated September 25, 1992 and subject to the recommendations of the Staff Report dated
September 25, 1992. Motion carried 6-0.
MOTION 3:
Bauer moved, seconded by Norman to recommend to the City Council approval of the request
of Centex Real Estate Corp. for Preliminary Plat of 49.9 into 94 lots, 4 outlots and road right-of-
way, based on plans dated September 11, 1992, revised plans dated September 25, 1992 and
subject to the recommendations of the Staff Report dated September 25, 1992. Motion carried
6-0.
V. OLD BUSINESS
VI. PLANNERS REPORT
A. "Starter" Housing in the R1-9.5 Zoning District
The Planning Commission considered whether the R1-9.5 Zoning District is appropriate for use
in providing "starter" housing or should other alternatives be considered. Bauer asked what
really is our goal, to encourage more starter dwellings/or provide for housing diversity?
Tom Boyce of Centex Homes stated that he reviewed the last 5 quarters of sales:
25% of buyers in the $163,000 range were 1st time home buyers.
57% had young families
67% had double incomes
44% came from Eden Prairie
Boyce continued to state that he felt we could not dictate house prices, that the City should allow
opportunity for variety of lot sizes and costs.
Sandstad asked if Centex would be interested in a new zone for more affordable housing? He
stated the problem is the land prices and availability dictates how much land is worth.
Norman felt the R1-9.5 zoning with starter housing competes with the used home market.
She added that controlling home sizes would be a way of providing lower cost housing.
Clinton stated he would like to have affordable housing defined and that perhaps an analysis of
Eden Prairie's housing inventory and comparison to the metro area may define affordable
housing.
The commission agreed they would like to have the following additional information on single
family and multi-family units:
1. Used home statistics - what is available and affordable for sale in Eden Prairie.
2. An analysis of existing housing stuck in Eden Prairie by value and age.
3. A comparison of Eden Prairie housing values to adjoining communities and the metro area.
Bauer stated he would like to see what Eden Prairie has to offer and based on this information,
this is what the Planning Commission should recommend to the City Council.
B. The scheduled meeting for October 12, 1992 will be canceled due to lack of a quorum and the
next meeting will be October 26, 1992.
VII. ADJOURNWNT
MOTION:
Clinton moved, seconded by Norman to adjourn the meeting at 8:40 PM. Motion carried 6-0.
AGENDA
EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COAL IISSION
Monday, September 28, 1992
7:30 p.m.
COMIVIISSION MEMBERS: Tim Bauer, Kenneth E. Clinton, Cynthia Clish, Katherine
Kardell, Karen Norman, Douglas Sandstad, Mary Jane
Wissner
STAFF MEMBERS: Chris Enger, Director of Planning; Michael D. Franzen,
Senior Planner; Donald Uram, Planner; Deb Edlund,
Recording Secretary
Pledge of Allegiance -- Roll Call
I. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
H. MEMBERS REPORTS
III. N NUTES
IV. PUBLIC HEARINGS
• A. FAIRMLD SOUTH by Centex Real Estate Corp. Request for Zoning District
Change from Rural to R1-13.5 on 16.2 acres and from Rural to R1-9.5 on 26.6 acres and
Preliminary Plat of 49.9 acres into 94 lots, 4 outlots and road right-of-way. Location:
North of County Road 1, west of Braxton Drive.
V. OLD BUSINESS
VI. PLANNERS' REPORTS
A. "Starter" Housing in the R1-9.5 Zoning District
VII. ADTOURNMENT
• ** Due to the Columbus Day Holiday, the Planning Commission Meeting will be changed
from October 12 to October 13.