Planning Commission - 10/25/1993 EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION
APPROVED MINUTES
MONDAY,OCTOBER 25, 1993 7:00 PM CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
7600 Executive Drive
COMNIISSION MEMBERS: Tim Bauer,Ken Clinton, Cynthia Clish,Katherine Kardell,
Doug Sandstad,Edward Schlampp, Mary Jane Wissner
STUDENT REPRESENTATIVE: Lisa-Marie Gualtieri
STAFF MEMBERS: Michael D.Franzen, Senior Planner;Jan Nelson,
Recording Secretary
L PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE-ROLL CALL
The meeting was called to order at 7:00 PM by Chairman Doug Sandstad. All members were
present.
H. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
• MOTION: Kardell moved, seconded by Clish,to approve the Agenda as published. Motion
passed 7-0.
III. MINUTES
MOTION: Schlampp moved, seconded by Clinton,to approve the minutes of the September
27, 1993 meeting as published. Motion passed 6-0,with Bauer abstaining.
IV. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. BENT CREEK RESIDENTIAL by Bent Creek Development Corporation. Request for
Comprehensive Guide Plan Change from Medium Density Residential to Low Density
Residential on 34.72 acres,Planned Unit Development Concept Review on 58.8 acres for 111
housing units,Planned Unit Development District Review with waivers on 58.8 acres for 111
housing units,Rezoning from Rural to RM-6.5 on 10.2 acres for 20 twinhomes,Rezoning from
Rural to R1-13.5 on 34.72 acres for 61 single family homes and Rezoning from Rural to R1-9.5
on 13.13 acres for 30 single family homes and Preliminary Plat on 58.8 acres into 91 single
family lots and 20 twinhome lots. Location: North of Valley View Road and west of Bent
Creek Goff Course.
• Continued Item from October 11, 1993.
Mark Ecklo,President of Bent Creek Development Corporation,reviewed the changes made in
the project in response to concerns expressed by the Planning Commission and neighborhood
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residents. He said the most significant change in the plan is to have two cul-de-sacs instead of a
through street. This and other changes helps to cut down the tree loss to 29%. The roadway in
the northern cul-de-sac was moved away from the existing neighborhood to the west and south
resulting in an increased buffer area.
Franzen stated the revised plan is a reasonable use of the property for the following reasons:
there is a low tree loss of 29%;no wetlands are proposed to be filled with the project;the City
benefits from pre-treatment of storm water from 120 acres of land;the reduction in PUD
densities from 771 to 111 units is a better relationship to the adjoining single family areas. He
said Staff recommends approval based on plans dated October 21, 1993 and subject to the
conditions in the Staff Report dated October 22, 1993. He noted that the conditions outlined
include conservancy easements on several of the lots and the requirement that,prior to release of
the final plat, developer shall apply for building permits on lots 4 through 15,Block 3 in the
proposed R1-9.5 area so that Staff may inspect the grading limits and building footprints to
assure compliance with the tree preservation plan as proposed by the developer.
Marge Olberg,6741 Vermar Terrace, expressed appreciation for the effort put in on the plan
changes.
Paul Seeling, 6895 Jeremy Court,was pleased that the developer met with the residents to
discuss their concerns.
Dale Sheveland, 14852 Hickory Court,was pleasedwith the cul-de-sacs and asked if the house
pads that back up to Hickory Court are in the same location as before. The developer said the
building permits will be pulled so that no house would be larger than the proposed size.
Sheveland expressed concern about how the residents of the project will deal with the storm
runoff from the existing property in the area. Ecklo said the builders will have to create a swail
at the property lines to allow for storm water runoff.
Franzen distributed a letter from Paul Bulver, 6749 Vermar Terrace, a copy of which is attached
to these minutes, expressing his approval of the changes made to the project and thanking the
Commission, Staff and the developers for their suggestions and efforts that produced a much
improved plan.
MOTION : Kardell moved, seconded by Clinton,to close the public hearing. Motion passed
70.
MOTION: Kardell moved, seconded by Clinton,to recommend to the City Council approval of
the request of Bent Creek Development Corporation for Comprehensive Guide Plan change from
Medium Density Residential to Low Density Residential on 34.72 acres based on plans dated
October 21, 1993 and subject to the Staff Report dated October 22, 1993. Motion passed 7-0.
MOTION: Kardell moved, seconded by Clinton,to recommend to the City Council approval of
the request of Bent Creek Development Corporation for Planned Unit Development Concept
Review based on plans dated October 21, 1993 and subject to the Staff Report dated October 22,
• 1993. Motion passed 7-0.
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MOTION: Kardell moved, seconded by Clinton, to recommend to the City Council approval of
• the request of Bent Creek Development Corporation for Planned Unit Development District
Review with waivers on 58.8 acres based on plans dated October 21, 1993 and subject to the
Staff Report dated October 22, 1993. Motion passed 7-0.
MOTION: Kardell moved, seconded by Clinton, to recommend to the City Council approval of
the request of Bent Creek Development Corporation for Rezoning from Rural to RM-6.5 on 10.2
acres,Rezoning from Rural to R1-13.5 on 34.72 acres and Rezoning from Rural to R1-9.5 on
13.13 acres based on plans dated October 21, 1993 and subject to the Staff Report dated October
22, 1993. Motion passed 7-0.
MOTION 6: Kardell moved,seconded by Clinton,to recommend to the City Council approval
of the request of Bent Creek Development Corporation for Preliminary Plat of 58.8 acres based
on plans dated October 21, 1993 and subject to the Staff Report dated October 22, 1993.
Motion passed 7-0.
B. BREAM TOWNHOUSES by Bream Builders. Request for PUD Concept Review on 419
acres,PUD District Review on 6.71 acres with waivers,Zoning District Amendment in the
RM-6.5 Zoning District,Preliminary Plat of 6.71 acres into 11 lots,and Site Plan Review on
6.71 acres. Location: West of Dell Road and North of Pioneer Trail.
Franzen noted that the Bearpath PUD approved this site for RM-6.5 zoning and 45 townhome
units. The site plan shows 29 units.
• Cal Smith,Vice President of Bream Builders,distributed material about the development.
Schlampp asked what the sale price will be for the units. Smith said the units will be in the
$350,000 price range and they intend to offer a great deal of flexibility to the buyers.
Wissner asked if they have developed similar units elsewhere. Smith said they have developed
three major townhome communities in Mendota Heights and Woodbury.
Kardell asked what the timing is for construction. Smith replied that they hope to start the first
model sometime during December and estimated that it will be completed in three years or less.
Franzen said Staff recommends approval of the project,based on plans dated October 22, 1993,
subject to the Staff Report of October 22, 1993, and with the conditions that,prior to final plat
approval,the proponent shall submit detailed storm water runoff,utility and erosion control plans
for review and approval by the City Engineer and by the Watershed District, and,prior to
building permit issuance,the proponent shall pay the appropriate cash park fee.
Kardell asked when water and sewer will be put in. Franzen replied sometime in December,
optimistically, and then described the location of the sewer and water lines in the area.
Schlampp asked if this is in the Riley Watershed District. Franzen said it was. Schlampp asked
• how close they are from signing off on this . Franzen said they are working on the final details
on the wetland mitigation for Dell Road and that they will grant a permit to do grading on the
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property and another permit for the utility construction. Franzen also noted that there are areas
for wetland mitigation within the entire area but not in the vicinity of Dell Road.
John Bushey, 9000 Riley Lake Road, said he looked at the grading today and noticed that many
areas were not fenced. Franzen said he would ask Jeff Johnson,the project engineer, about that.
MOTION: Wissner moved,seconded by Bauer, to close the public hearing. Motion passed
7-0.
MOTION: Wissner moved,seconded by Bauer,to recommend to the City Council approval of
the request of Bream Builders for Planned Unit Development Concept Review on 419 acres
based on plans dated October 21, 1993 and subject to the Staff Report dated October 22, 1993.
Motion passed 7-0.
MOTION: Wissner moved, seconded by Bauer,to recommend to the City Council approval of
the request of Bream Builders for Planned Unit Development District Review with waivers on
6.71 acres based on plans dated October 21, 1993 and subject to the Staff Report dated October
22, 1993. Motion passed 7-0.
MOTION: Wissner moved,seconded by Bauer, to recommend to the City Council approval of
the request of Bream Builders for Zoning District Amendment in the RM-6.5 Zoning District
based on plans dated October 21, 1993 and subject to the Staff Report dated October 22, 1993.
Motion passed 7-0.
• MOTION: Wissner moved,seconded by Bauer,to recommend to the City Council approval of
the request of Bream Builders for Preliminary Plat of 6.71 acres based on plans dated October
21, 1993 and subject to the Staff Report dated October 22, 1993. Motion passed 7-0.
MOTION: Wissner moved, seconded by Bauer, to recommend to the City Council approval of
the request of Bream Builders for Site Plan Review on 6.71 acres based on plans dated October
21, 1993 and subject to the Staff Report dated October 22, 1993. Motion passed 7-0.
Schlampp noted on the Bent Creek Project that there will be substantial impact to the wetlands in
this area because of the drainage that goes into it which could have been corrected with changes
in the storm sewer to drain to the N.U.R.P. pond.
V. MEMBERS'REPORTS
There were none.
VI. CONTINUING BUSINESS
There was none.
:II. NEW BUSINESS
There was none.
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VIII. PLANNERS' REPORTS
• Franzen noted that the next meeting should be very short and that it will be held in the new City Hall
building.
IX. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Clish moved,seconded by Clinton,to adjourn the meeting at 7:45 PM. Motion passed
7-0.
AGENDA
EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION
Monday, October 25, 1993
7:00 p.m.
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Tim Bauer, Kenneth E. Clinton, Cynthia Clish,
Katherine Kardell, Douglas Sandstad, Edward
Schlampp, Mary Jane Wissner
STUDENT REPRESENTATIVE: Lisa-Marie Gualtieri
STAFF MEMBERS: Chris Enger, Director of Community Development;
Michael D. Franzen, Senior Planner; Donald Uram,
Planner
I. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE -- ROLL CALL
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
M. MINUTES
IV. PUBLIC HEARINGS
Continued Item from October 11, 1993:
A. BENT CREEK RESIDENTIAL by Bent Creek Development Corporation.
Request for Comprehensive Guide Plan Change from Medium Density Residential
to Low Density Residential on 34.72 acres, Planned Unit Development Concept
Review on 58.8 acres for 111 housing units, Planned Unit Development District
Review with waivers on 58.8 acres for 111 housing units, Rezoning from Rural
to RM-6.5 on 10.2 acres for 20 twinhomes, Rezoning from Rural to R1-13.5 on
34.72 acres for 61 single family homes and Rezoning from Rural to R1-9.5 on
13.13 acres for 30 single family homes and Preliminary Plat on 58.8 acres into
91 single family lots and 20 twinhome lots. Location: North of Valley View
Road and west of Bent Creek Golf Course.
B. BREAM TOWNHOUSES by Bream Builders. Request for PUD Concept
Review on 419 acres, PUD District Review on 6.71 acres with waivers, Zoning
District Amendment in the RM-6.5 Zoning District, Preliminary Plat of 6.71
acres into 11 lots, and Site Plan Review on 6.71 acres. Location: West of Dell
Road and North of Pioneer Trail.
V. MEMBERS' REPORTS
VI. CONTINUING BUSINESS
VII. NEW BUSINESS
VIII. PLANNERS' REPORTS
TX. ADJO�NT