Planning Commission - 09/27/1993 AGENDA
EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION I
Monday, September 27, 1993
7:00 p.m. "
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Tim Bauer, Kenneth E. Clinton, Cynthia Clish,
Katherine Kardell, Douglas Sandstad, Edward
Schlampp, Mary Jane Wissner
STAFF MEMBERS: Chris Enger, Director of Community Development;
Michael D. Franzen, Senior Planner; Donald Uram,
Planner
I. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE--- ROLL CALL
H. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
M. MINUTES
IV. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. BENT CREEK RESIDENTIAL by Bent Creek Development Corporation.
Request for Planned Unit Development Concept Review on 58.8 acres, Planned
Unit Development District Review with waivers on 58'.8 acres, Rezoning from
Rural to RM-6.5 on 10.2 acres, Rezoning from Rural to R1-13.5 on 34.72 acres
and Rezoning from Rural to R1-9.5 on 13.13 acres and Preliminary Plat on 58.8
acres. Location: North of Valley View Road and west of Bent Creek Golf
Course.
V. MEMBERS' REPORTS
VI. CONT]NMG BUSINESS
VH. NEW BUSINESS
VIII. PLANNERS' REPORTS
IX. ADTOURNMENT
EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION
APPROVED MINUTES
MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 27, 1993 7:00 PM CITY HALL COUNCIL CHAMBERS
7600 Executive Drive
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Tim Bauer, Ken Clinton, Cynthia Clish, Katherine Kardell, Doug
Sandstad, Edward Schlampp, Mary Jane Wissner.
STAFF MEMBERS: Michael D. Franzen, Senior Planner; Theresa Pendroy, Substitute
Recording Secretary
I. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE -- ROLL CALL
Bauer was absent. The meeting was called to order at 7:02 P.M. by Chairman, Doug Sandstad.
H. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Clinton moved, seconded by Clish to approve the Agenda as published. Motion passed 6-0.
III. MINUTES
• MOTION: Schlampp moved, Clinton seconded to approve the meeting minutes for July 12,
1993; July 26, 1993; August 9, 1993; and August 23, 1993. Motion passed 6-0.
IV. PUBLIC HEARINGS
BENT CREEK RESIDENTIAL by Bent Creek Development Corporation. Request for Planned
Unit Development Concept Review on 58.8 acres for Ill housing units, Planned Unit
Development District Review with waivers on 58.8 acres for 111 housing units, Rezoning from
Rural to RM-6.5 on 10.2 acres for 20 twinhomes, Rezoning from Rural to R1-13.5 on 34.72
acres for 60 single family homes, Rezoning from Rural to R1-9.5 on 13.13 acres for 31 single
family homes and Preliminary Plat of 58.8 acres into 91 single family lots and 20 twinhome lots.
Location: North of Valley View Road and west of Bent Creek Golf Course.
Franzen noted the proposal was initially envisioned for a total of 771 multiple family housing
units. The current proposal is 111 units of which 20 are twin houses and 91 are single family
homes. The benefits of the reduction of density are the overall reduction of traffic in the area
and a better transition to the existing single family homes to the west of the development. The
City will benefit from pretreated storm water as well as an additional 60 acres of unpretreated
drainage in the development.
The Staff is concerned with the high percentage of tree loss being 39% and the proximity of the
• building pads. Currently the building pads are within 10 feet of the 100 year flood elevation
which is well past the recommended 2 foot minimum. The Staff would suggest a minimum 30
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foot setback between the building pad and the 100 year flood elevation. The developers are
aware of these issues and are currently working on resolving them.
Franzen introduced the developers. The developers reviewed the project with visuals. It was
noted the development was broken into 3 phases. In the first phase the homes would be double
lots in the value range of$200- $225,000 lots. Phase 2 would be$280-$325,000 single family
lots and Phase 3 would be mid to upper$200,000 single family lots. Dividing the development
in such a way would blend the homes with the already established homes in the area. The main
thorough-way would connect Edenvale Blvd. and Valley View Road.
Paul Bulver, 6749 Vermar Terrace, expressed concern over the loss of trees. He suggested one
way of tree replacement would be to place pine trees along the back of the lots for privacy.
Carrie Lueneburg, 6725 Vermar Terrace supports this idea. Bulver was not clear as to where
the water level of the wetlands behind his home would meet with his property. Bulver was also
concerned about the traffic on the proposed road becoming a "bypass" from Edenvale Boulevard
to Valley View Road. Bulver suggested the developer re-route the road. Other residents
concerned about the traffic flow are Blair Wachutra, 6625 Harlan Drive; Marge Olberg, 6741
Vermar Terrace.
Mike Pollock, 6640 Harland Drive, stated deer currently pass through the woods and wetlands
behind his home. The proposed development would interfere with the deer movement. Pollock
is concerned that if the development were to be built it would leave the deer with no way out
of the area. Pollock suggested the City research the deer movement and the affects the
development would have on it.
• Dallas Nord, 6733 Vermar Terrace, is not comfortable with the proposed drainage system into
the wetlands and would like to see a better plan for street run off.
Wende Bergson, 6835 Jeremy Court South, explained one of the main reasons her and her
husband purchased the home they currently live in is for the view. Their home is located on one
of the highest points of the City and overlooks the woods and wetlands. She is not comfortable
with the 39% tree loss and had wanted to know the percentage of the trees that are 12 inches or
larger in diameter that will be removed. Bergson suggested the developer study this further to
avoid the removal of a large percentage of trees. Curtis Evert 14832 Hickory Court, would like
to see larger lots thereby maintaining a lower level of tree loss.
Scott Otis, 6709 Vermar Terrace, is concerned about the economic affect the twin homes would
have on the value of his property if he were to place it on the market 2 or 3 years from now.
Otis also questioned how long it would take to complete all 3 phases of the development. The
developer stated all 3 phases will be completed within a 24 month period.
Schlampp suggested the developer replan the wetland drainage to eliminate street run off into the
wetlands. Kardell stated the 39% tree loss is unacceptable; and the building pads should be
placed within 10 feet or more of the 100 year flood elevation point. Clinton suggested the
developer research further the traffic of the proposed road and the affect it would have on Valley
View Road and Edenvale Boulevard, possibly re-routing the road.
• Franzen stated one of the solutions might have been to transfer all of the densities to the east side
of tracks and take down all of the trees next to the Golf Course and put all the density in and
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don't develop on the west side which might be at 60% tree loss where the better trees. Lot
sizes are 19.5 to match up to existing zoning. It was never intented for affordable housing. If
density transfer preserves the trees, is one thing, but the plan isn't successful for density transfer.
If developer is not in position to make plan changes by the IIth, then it will be continued. to
October 25 and Staff will send out notices.
MOTION: Schlampp moved, Clish seconded, for a continuance to the October 11, 1993
meeting. Motion passed 6-0.
V. MEMBERS' REPORTS
VI. CONTINUING BUSINESS
VU. PLANNERS REPORTS
1. October 11, 1993, Planning Commission Meeting
Franzen had asked whether there would be enough Commission members to form a quorum at
the October 11, 1993 meeting. It was decided there will be enough members present. The
meeting will be held on Monday, October 11, 1993.
No action necessary.
• 2. Planning Commission Handbook
There was a general discussion among the Commision members regarding the Planning
Commission Handbook.
No action necessary.
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
Clish moved, Clinton seconded, to adjourn the meeting at 9:10 P.M. Motion passed 6-0.
Respectfully submitted,
Theresa M. Pendroy
Recording Secretary
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