Planning Commission - 02/12/1996 AGENDA
EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION
Monday, February 12, 1996 7:00 p.m.
• COMMISSION MEMBERS: Kenneth E. Clinton, Randy Foote, Ismail Ismail,
Katherine Kardell, Douglas Sandstad, Edward
Schlampp, Mary Jane Wissner
STAFF MEMBERS: Michael D. Franzen, City Planner
Scott Kipp, Planner
I. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE--ROLL CALL
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
III. MINUTES
IV. PUBLIC HEARINGS
Continuance Requested to March 11th:
A. BEARPATH 1996 PUD AMENDMENT by Bearpath Limited Partnership.
Request for PUD Amendment and Zoning District Amendment on 15 acres.
Location: Bearpath Trail and Dell Road.
B. BLUFF'S EAST 16TH ADDITION - LOT 1, BLOCK 1 by Hustad Land
Company. Request for Rezoning from RM-6.5 to R1-13.5 on 0.4 acres. Location:
Franlo Road and Normandy Crest.
C. ROGER'S HOMESTEAD by Paul Thorp. Request for Zoning District Change
from Rural to R1-13.5 on 11.04 acres,Preliminary Plat of 11.04 acres into 16 single
family lots and road right-of-way. Location: Duck Lake Road and Duck Lake Trail.
D. DATA METALCRAFT EXPANSION by Gene O'Brien. Request for Zoning
District Change from I-General to I-2 on 3 acres and Site Plan Review on 3 acres for
construction of a 16,734 sq. ft. building addition. Location: 7875 Fuller Road.
V. MEMBERS' REPORTS
VI. CONTINUING BUSINESS
VH. NEW BUSINESS
VHI. PLANNERS' REPORTS
IX. ADJOURNMENT
APPROVED MINUTES
CITY OF EDEN PRAIRIE PLANNING COMMISSION
February 12, 1996
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Katherine Kardell, Kenneth E. Clinton,
Randy Foote, Ismail Ismail, Douglas
Sandstad, Edward Schlampp, Mary Jane
Wissner
STAFF MEMBERS: Michael D. Franzen, City Planner, Scott
Kipp, Planner, and Barbara Anderson,
City Recorder
I. PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE-ROLL CALL
Chair Kardell called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. Commissioner Ismail was excused.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION:Foote moved, Wissner seconded,to approve the agenda as published. Motion
carried 6-0.
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
MOTION: Wissner moved,Foote seconded,to approve the Minutes of the December 11,
1995 Planning Commission meeting as submitted. Motion carried 6-0.
IV. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. BEARPATH 1996 PUD AMENDMENT by Bearpath Limited Partnership. Request
for PUD Amendment and Zoning District Amendment on 15 acres. Location:
Bearpath Trail and Dell Road.
John Vogelbacher submitted a letter requesting the Planning Commission to continue
this item until the March 11, 1996 Planning Commission meeting to allow the
residents concerned with their petition to attend that meeting.
MOTION: Sandstad moved,Foote seconded,to continue the Bearpath 1996 PUD
Amendment until the March 11, 1996 Planning Commission Meeting, and to note that
Sandstad brought in an article published in the November 6, 1992 Star Tribune
written by Josephine Marcotty discussing the "Gated Community of Bearpath".
Motion carried 6-0.
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B. BLUFF'S EAST 16TH ADDITION - LOT 1, BLOCK 1, by Hustad Land
Company. Request for Rezoning from RM-6.5 to R1-13.5 on-.4 acres. Location:
Franlo Road and Normandy Crest.
Franzen reviewed the staff report and stated that Beth Simestead,the proponent was
present.
Kardell opened the Public Hearing. No one present wished to address the
Commission on this item.
MOTION: Sandstad moved,Foote seconded to close the Public Hearing. Motion
carried 6-0.
MOTION: Sandstad moved, Foote seconded,to recommend approval to the City
Council for the Rezoning from RM-6.5 to R1-13.5 on 0.4 acres for Hustad Land
Company based on plans dated February 9, 1996, and subject to the recommendations
of the Staff Report dated February 9, 1996. Motion carried 6-0.
C. ROGER'S HOMESTEAD by Paul Thorp. Request for Zoning District Change
from Rural to R-1-13.5 on 10.9 acres, and Preliminary Plat of 10.9 acres into 16
single family lots and road right-of-way. Location: Duck Lake Road and Duck Lake
Trail.
Paul Thorp reviewed the subdivision proposal,which included 16 single family lots.
Sandstad inquired if the proponent had given consideration to dedicating land for the
public access and Thorp responded he had met with Bob Lambert and there is some
property available, but with the lake being so shallow it will be difficult to install a
boat access there. Foote inquired if sidewalk was proposed to be installed around the
perimeter of the development, and Thorp responded it was not.
Franzen reviewed the staff report and stated staff recommended approval of the
Rezoning and Preliminary Plat subject to the recommendations in the staff report.
Sidewalks had not been required because staff believed they would be included with
the roadway improvement project. The Park and Recreation Commission could
consider requiring the portion of sidewalk that would be adjacent to this development
to be constructed now,but the remainder of the sidewalk would be built as part of the
roadway improvement project.
Foote inquired if plans were made for sidewalk to be built in this area and Franzen
responded that there are some sidewalks in the area and the City may determine that
sidewalks are desirable in this location. Wissner inquired if the road ever flooded in
• this area and Franzen responded that staff had no recollection of flooding occurring.
The Public Hearing was opened.
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Barbara Jeffries, 6950 Barberry Lane, inquired about the mature oak trees on the site
and how many of them would be preserved and now many trees would be replaced.
Franzen reviewed the tree preservation policy and responded that about 40 trees will
have to be planted on the property to replace those lost due to grading or
construction. The DNR requires a 37.5 foot setback from the lake and they want to
have all the existing vegetation in this area preserved to the greatest extent possible.
They will permit some tree removal to allow a homeowner a view of the lake,but do
not permit clear-cutting of vegetation. He noted there was a large cluster of oak trees
on the lakeshore that would be preserved. Thorp stated that he plans to elevate one
cul-de-sac which will in turn elevate the houses, and hopefully preserve more trees
that are located close to the lake. Jeffries asked if a small area could be set aside in
this development for the kids to use as a play area,because it was a very popular area
now and many children played there. There is no shoulder on the roadway, and traffic
is fairly heavy which presents a danger to children who are fishing or playing in the
area.
Rod Fisher, 16820 South Shore Lane, complimented the proponent on the
development. He discussed the Park and Recreation Commission Meeting held the
previous Monday evening, and the discussion regarding the overall health of Duck
Lake and the public access. The DNR requires a public access to be created before
it will assume management responsibility for the lake,which is something the residents
would hike to see happen. The homeowners would like to see the access created for
hand-launch boats,which would not adversely impact the neighborhood, and still give
the DNR an opportunity to manage the lake. He stated that the area does not flood,
even on the land bridge,because the outlet controls the lake levels. He discussed the
traffic in the area and expressed concerns regarding pedestrian safety. The High
School and Prairie View Elementary School create a great deal of student traffic along
Duck Lake Road and the kids are constantly walking in the roadway because there
are no sidewalks. He requested that the Planning Commission require sidewalks to
be constructed along Duck Lake Trail. Fisher stated he did not have any objection
to the variances and considered them to be reasonable. He believed that the City
could make the area more pedestrian-friendly by requiring the sidewalk and creating
the access to the lake for small boats.
Dorothy H.Reuss, 6923 Barberry Lane, stated she had been a resident of Eden Prairie
for 39 years and were happy to see people enjoying fishing on the lake with their
children. She commented the City should put some garbage receptacles in the vicinity
to facilitate cleanup of the area. She was concerned about the grading on the site and
the amount of trees that would be lost by the development. She believed that safety
was a significant issue and urged the City to construct sidewalks in the area and make
the roadway safer for both drivers and pedestrians.
. William Munz, 169805 South Shore Lane, commented that he presently has a good
view of the lake and he was concemed about the setbacks for the new homes from the
lakeshore. Kardell stated that the houses would be setback 100 feet from the
lakeshore. Munz was concerned about the impact on the waterfowl that build nests
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along the lakeshore in the spring as any clear-cutting of vegetation would adversely
impact them Also,he was concerned about runoff into the lake during construction
as the lake is shallow and siltation would adversely impact the water quality in the
lake. He believed that sidewalks would be an improvement for this area as there was
no room for pedestrian traffic on the roadway.
Franzen commented that the Shoreland Ordinance does not allow for clear cutting of
trees. Grading must be kept at least 25 feet from the wetland and erosion control
measures,including siltation fencing,must be in place before grading can commence.
Sandstad commented that when this development was reviewed by the Planning
Commission previously he recalled they had requested that a sidewalk be included as
part of the plan, and that should be continued forward with this development
proposal. He believed that the amount of land needed to construct a sidewalk should
be included in the plans.
Foote stated he thought that there should be a sidewalk and the City should construct
the remainder of the sidewalk along Duck Lake Road as soon as possible because the
situation with pedestrians was most dangerous. Clinton concurred with the other
commissioners. Wissner inquired if it would be possible to install stop signs at
strategic locations to slow the traffic, and Franzen responded that stop signs were
installed based on traffic volumes and there has been no recommendation from the
Engineering Department regarding this, but staff would look into it.
Kardell commented she felt sidewalks in this area should be encouraged and that the
area adjacent to the land bridge was particularly critical.
MOTION: Clinton moved, Sandstad seconded,to close the Public Hearing. Motion
carried 6-0.
MOTION: Clinton moved, Sandstad seconded,to recommend to the City Council
approval of the request of Paul Thorp for Zoning District Change on 10.9 acres based
on plans dated February 9, 1996, and subject to the recommendations of the Staff
Report dated February 9, 1996. Motion carried 6-0.
MOTION: Clinton moved, Sandstad seconded, to recommend to the City Council
approval of the request of Paul Thorp for Preliminary Plat of 10.9 acres based on
plans dated February 9, 1996, and subject to the recommendations of the Staff Report
dated February 9, 1996, with the addition of the following stipulation:
5. Consider requiring sidewalks be included along Duck Lake Road and Duck
Lake Trail on the subject property and strongly encourage that they be
continued further along the land bridge.
Motion carried 6-6.
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D. DATA METALCRAFT EXPANSION by Gene O'Brien. Request for Zoning
District change from I-General to I-2 on 3 acres and Site Plan Review on 3 acres for
construction of a 16,734 sq. ft. building addition. Location: 7858 Fuller Road.
Kipp reviewed the staffreport and stated staff recommended approval of the requests.
Gene O'Brien and Tim Miller, of Miller Construction were present to answer any
questions.
Wissner commented that she was very pleased to see a business expanding and
remaining in Eden Prairie.
The Public Hearing was opened. No one present wished to speak.
MOTION: Wissner moved, Foote seconded to close the Public Hearing Motion
carried 6-0.
MOTION: Wissner moved, Foote seconded to recommend to. the City Council
approval of the request of Gene O'Brien for Zoning District Change from I-General
to I-2 on 3 acres based on plans dated February 1, 1996, and subject to the
recommendations of the Staff Report dated February 9, 1996. Motion carried 6-0.
MOTION: Wissner moved, Foote seconded, to recommend to the City Council
approval of the request of Gene O'Brien for Site Plan Review on 3 acres based on
plans dated February 1, 1996, and subject to the recommendations of the Staff Report
dated February 9, 1996. Motion carried 6-0.
V. MEMBERS' REPORTS
None.
VI. CONTINUING BUSINESS
None.
VII. NEW BUSINESS
None.
VIII. PLANNER'S REPORTS
Franzen reviewed new projects tentatively scheduled for the next meeting and commented
that the Shoreland Ordinance updates will be reviewed at the March 1 Ith meeting.
Sandstad inquired about impacts to the Purgatory Creek Marsh area behind Flagship Athletic
Club. Franzen responded that the control structure will allow the marsh to hold more water.
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Schlampp commented that the watershed district was very concerned about present
conditions being similar to those which existed in 1965 prior to a major flood. He thought
there would be radio and television coverage on this. It is possible that we would experience
flooding conditions this spring if the present conditions continue.
IX. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Schlampp moved, Clinton seconded, to adjourn the meeting. Motion carried
6-0. The meeting adjourned at 8:00 p.m.