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City Council - 06/02/1987 - Board of Review APPROVED MINUTES CITY OF EDEN PRAIRIE z BOARD OF REVIEW 4 TUESDAY, J UNE 2, 1987 6:00 PM, COUNCIL CHAMBERS 7600 Executive Drive a BOARD OF REVIEW MEMBERS: President of the Board Gary D . Peterson, Richard Anderson, George Bentley, Jean Harris, and Patricia Pideock BOARD OF REVIEW STAFF: City Manager Carl J . Jullie , Assistant to the City Manager Craig Dawson, k City Assessor Steve Sinell, Hennepin County Representative Don Monk, and Recording Secretary Jan Nelson PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE ROLL CALL: Board Member George Bentley was absent . I . RECONVENE BOARD OF REVIEW MEETING The meeting was called to order by President of the Board Peterson. II . APPROVAL OF BOARD OF REVIEW MINUTES OF MEETING HELD THURSDAY MAY 1 , 197 The following change was made to the Minutes: page ten, paragraph three , sentence two -- change "Staff effort . " to "Staff was to be commended for their effort . " MOTION: Harris moved , seconded by Pidcock, to approve the Minutes of the Board of Review Meeting held Thursday, May 14, 1987, as amended and published . Motion carried with Anderson abstaining. III . REVIEW OF ITEMS CONTINUED FROM MAY 14, 1987 City Assessor Sinell stated those items referred by the Board at its May 14th meeting had been reviewed by the City Staff. 1 . FLOYD SIEFFERMAN - 6997 Edgebrook Place 1987, EMV Assessor' s Rec . 03-116-22 44 0029 270,3Q0 270000 Mr. -Siefferman said he still did not understand how his lot could be valued as high as it is because it is the n a •ti Board of Review Minutes -2 June 2 , 1987 shallowest lot in Eden Prairie . He reviewed information regarding assessed valuation versus market value and information regarding comparable properties for the Board . He also read a letter he had obtained from a realtor which 4 compared other lots in the Cardinal Creek development with his lot and noted that the land values appear to be sub- jective while the house values are more objective . s MOTION: Harris moved , seconded by Pidcock, to table this itein to allow sufficient time for other appellants to speak. Motion carried unanimously. 2 . DOUG REUTER - 8750 Black Maple Drive 1987 EMV Assessor' s Rec . 24-116-22 21 0057 199. 500 190, 000 Mr . Reuter said he objected to the assessors coming through his property four times in the last 3-1/4 years . He said he wanted to know why his house was appraised $20, 000 higher than a larger house two doors down from his that sold in 1985 . City Assessor Sinell said the appraisers had used three comparable properties that were sold in 1986 . Pidcock noted that she thought the value should be further reduced . e MOTION: Anderson moved , seconded by Harris, to reduce the 1987 value on the Reuter property, PID 24-116-22 21 00S7, to $190, 000 . Motion carried with Pidcock voting "No . " 3 . AL TRAYNHAM - 8698 Black Maple Drive 1987 EMV Assessor's Rec . 24-116-22 21 0054 171 , 100 171 , 100 MOTION: Pidcock moved, seconded by Anderson, to sustain the 1987 Estimated Market Value on the Traynham property, PID 24-116-22 21 0054, at $171 , 100. Motion carried unani- mously. 4. SCOTT DRUM - 8746 Black Maple Drive 1987 EMV Assessor' s Rec . 24-116-22 22 0056 189,000 185,000 P 1 Board of Review Minutes -3- June 2 , 1987 ' g Mr. Drum said he was puzzled by the comparables used in the review appraisal . He said a sizable portion of his lot is not usable so he would question the comparison of lot sizes. MOTION: Anderson moved, seconded by Harris, to reduce the 1987 value on the Drum property, PID 24-116-22 22 0056. to $185 , 000 . Motion carried unanimously. 5 . THOMAS HALLER - 8758 Black Maple Drive r 1987 EMV Assessor ' s Rec . 24-116-22 22 0027 193 , 100 182, 000 MOTION: Anderson moved , seconded by Harris, to reduce the 1987 value on the Haller property, PID 24-116-22 22 00279 to $182 , 000 . Motion carried unanimously. 6 . KENNETH JOHNSON - 16370 Westgate Drive 198Z EMV Assessor' s Rec . 08-116-22 41 0020 99. 100 99, 100 MOTION: Anderson moved , seconded by Pidcock, to sustain the 1987 Estimated Market Value on the Johnson property, PID 08-116-22 41 0020, at $99, 100 . Motion carried unani- mously . 7 . JAMES J ORDAN - 16210 Westgate Lane 1987 EMV Assessor' s Rec . 08-116-22 41 0012 93 , 000 93, 000 MOTION: Harris moved, seconded by Anderson, to sustain the 1987 Estimated Market Value on the Jordan property, PID 08-116-22 41 0012, at $93 , 000 . Motion carried unanimously 8 . JAMES V . CRAMER - 8754 Black Maple Drive t 1987 EMV Assessor' s Rec . 24-116-22 21 0058 182 ,700 182, 700 Mr. Cramer asked what the records show his home purchase price to be . City Assessor Sinell said the records only show that the lot cost $41 , 000. Mr. Cramer said that two of the com parables used For his � appraisal are on much more expensive lots than his . He s Board of Review Minutes -4- June 2 , 1987 read a letter from his builder offering to build a home duplicating his current one for $106 ,400 plus lot . City Assessor Sinell asked Mr . Cramer what he thought his home would sell for today . Mr. Cramer said it was re- appraised at $160,000 last July when he applied for refin- ancing. Anderson noted that more than one property on Black Maple Drive seems to be having problems and suggested that the whole area be reevaluated next year . MOTION: Pidcock moved to reduce the 1987 value on the Cramer property to $160,000 on the basis that he did have an independent appraisal done last year that resulted in an EMV of $160 , 000 . k Motion died for lack of a second . Anderson said he could go along with that reduction if he had a copy of that appraisal but not without documented evidence . MOTION: Anderson moved, seconded by Peterson, to sustain the 1987 Estimated Market Value on the Cramer property, PID 24-116-22 21 0058, at $182 , 700. Motion carried with Pidcock voting "No . " 9 BILL SMETANA - 16171 Westgate Lane 1987 EMV Assessor' s Rec . 08-116-2.2 41 0026 93, 200 93,200 MOTION: Pidcock moved, seconded by Anderson, to sustain the 1987 Estimated Market Value on the Smetana property, PID 08-116-22 41 0026, at $93 , 200 . Motion carried unani- mously . 10 . STEVEN & JANE HACKETT - 6880 Hallmark Drive 1987 ENV Assessor' s Rec . 04-116-22 34 0071 152 , 900 1520900 Mr . Hackett said they had just moved into the house which they paid $146 , 700 for and were then assessed at $152,900 . } He didn't understand why he would be assessed more than he paid for the property. Board of Review Minutes -5- June 2, 1987 y Anderson asked how much of the work on the house he had done himself. Mr. Hackett said they had done the painting and staining. Anderson said that may account for some of the difference . MOTION: Pidcock moved to table this item to allow time for o-�her appellants. Motion died for lack: of a second . a MOTION: Harris moved, seconded by Anderson, to sustain a the 1987 Estimated Market Value on the Hackett property, PID 04-116-22 34 0071 , at $152 , 900 . Motion carried unani- mously. 11 . ROBERT NEWBERRY - 10323 Nottingham Trail 1987 EMV Assessor' s Rec . 25-116-22 13 0069 112, 700 101 , 700 MOTION: Harris moved, seconded by Pidcock, to reduce the 1987 Estimated Market Value on the Newberry property, ( PID 25-116-22 13 0069, to $101 , 700 . Motion carried unani-mously . 12 . SCOT DOWNEY - 6651 Countryside Drive . 987 EMV Assessor' : Rec . 05-116-22 31 0061 87,200 87,200 MOTION: Harris moved, seconded by Anderson, to sustain the 1987 Estimated Market Value on the Downey property, PID 05-116-22 31 0061 , at $87, 200 . Motion carried unani- mously. 13 . TENNENBAUM-HILL ASSOC . INC . 1987 EMV Assessor' s Rec . 11 -116-22 42 0013 421 , 200 421 ,200 11 -1�6-22 42 0002 499,800 499,800 11 -116-22 42 0003 413 , 100 413 , 100 11 -116-22 42 0004 357, 000 357, 000 11 -116-22 42 0005 357* 000 357, 000 ; 11 -116-22 42 0009 357 , 000 357, 000 11 -116-22 42 0025 525,300 525,300 11 -1-16-22 42 0036 214,200 214,200 11 -116-22 42 0037 86 , 700 86, 700 11 -116-22 42 0038 16o, loo 160, 100 11 -116-22 42 oo4o 310 .300 310,300 11-116-22 42 0041 310, 000 310, 000 Board of Review Minutes -6- June 2, 1987 K MOTION: Anderson moved, seconded by Pidcock, to sustain the 1987 Estimated Market Value on the Tennenbaum-Hill Assoc . Inc . properties: 11 -116-22 42 0013 at $421 , 200; 11-116-22 42 0002 at $499, 800; 11-116-22 42 0003 at 413 , 100; 11-116-22 42 0004 at 357, 000; 11-116-22 42 0005 at 357. 000; 11-116-22 42 0009 at 357, 000 ; 11-116-22 42 0025 at 525 .300; 11-116-22 42 0036 at 214,200 ; 11-116-22 42 0037 at 186,700 ; 11-116-22 42 0038 at $160. 100; 11-116-22 42 0040 at $310.300; 11-116-22 42 0041 at $310,000 . Motion carried unanimously. 14. ROBERT ROSS - 9260 Overlook Trail 1987 EMV Assessor' s Rec . 24-116-22 34 0028 190 , 200 190, 200 MOTION: Anderson moved , seconded by Pidcock, to sustain the 1987. Estimated Market Value on the Ross property, PID 24-116-22 34 0028, at $190,200 . Motion carried unani- mously. + 15 • RICHARD & FRANCES DOHRMANN - 18517 Harrogate Drive 1987 EMV Assessor' s Rec . o6-116-22 31 0016 120 , 800 120 , 800 MOTION: Anderson moved , seconded by Harris , to sustain the 1987 Estimated Market Value on the Dohrma,nn property, PID 06-116-22 31 0016 , at $120,800. Motion carried unani- mously. 16 . BRIAN & KAREN RINDAL - 15633 Canyon Ridge 1987 EMV Assessor' s Rec . 16-116-22 32 0019 139,400 130, 000 MOTION: Harris moved , seconded by Pidcock, to reduce the 1987 Estimated Market Value on the Rindal property, PID 16-116-22 32 0019, to $130, 000. Motion carried unanimously. 17. DUANE E . CHUMLEY - 13601 James Place 128Z EMV Assessor' s Rec . o3-116-22 34 0050 103 , 900 93, 000 MOTION: Pidcock moved, seconded by Anderson, to reduce the 1987 Estimated Market Value on the Chumley property, PID 03-116-22 34 0050, to $93, 000 . Motion carried unani- mously. a Board of Review Minutes -7- June 2, 1987 18 . RICHARD NVBSON - 15505 Morraine Way P 1987 EMV Assessor' s Rec . 16-116-22 31 0031 132, 900 132 , 900 Mr . Nubson said he disputed the value of his lot as the lot next door to his is valued at $25,400 and his is $27,500 . He said his house is smaller than his neighbor' s, yet his taxes are higher. City Assessor Sinell noted that the value on this property remained at $125, 500 from 1983 until this year when it was raised to $132 , 900 . MOTION: Anderson moved, seconded by Pidcock, to sustain the 1987 Estimated Market Value on the Nubson property, PID 16-116-22 31 0031 , at $132.900 . Motion carried unanimously. 19 . DAVID R . JOESTING - 6835 Sand Ridge Road 1987 EMV Assessor's Rec , 03-116-22 43 0008 261 , 9o0 252, 000 MOTION: Harris moved , seconded by Pidcock, to reduce the 1987 Estimated Market Value on the Joesting property, PID 03-116-22 43 0008 , to $252,000 . Motion carried unani- mously . 20 . LINDA & JAMES MORTELL - 10403 Brown Farm Circle 1287 EMV Assessor' s Rec . 35-116-22 11 00?9 198,000 180,000 MOTION: Anderson moved , seconded by Pidcock, to reduce the 1987 Estimated Market Value on the Mortell property, PID 35-116-22 11 00?9, to $180, 000 . Motion carried unanimously. 21 . DANIEL JOHNSON - 5420 Mt . Normandale Curve 1987 EMV Assessor' s Rec . 09-116-22 31 0011 132, 000 132,000 MOTION: Pidcock moved, seconded by Anderson, to sustain the - 1987 Estimated Market Value on the Johnson property, PID 09-116-22 31 0011 , at $132, 000 . Motion carried unani- mously. 4 { 5 a Board of Review Minutes -8- June 2 , 1987 22 . PERKIN-ELMER CORP. 1987 EMV Assessor' s Rec . 01-116-22 13 0018 66 , 000 66, 000 o1-116-22 13 0019 3 , 968, 000 3 , 094, 000 01-116-22 13 0020 2, 551 , 000 2 ,503,000 01-116-22 42 0003 58,40o 58,000 01-116-22 42 0004 2, 148, 000 2 , 879, 000 Daniel Ehrich, representing Perkin-Elmer Corp . , reviewed several processes for evaluating the property and the values arrived at by those means . He said they would like to see the total value reduced to $7,500,000 . City Assessor Sinell noted that Staff used similar pro- cesses to arrive at their valuation. { Peterson asked Mr. Ehrich if they intend to pursue this through the County process . Ehrich said they, will. MOTION: Pidcock moved, seconded by Anderson, to set the 1987 Estimated Market Value on the Perkin-Elmer Corp. properties: 01-116-22 13 0018 to $66 ,000; 01-116-22 13 0019 ,.. to $3 , 094, 000 ; 01 -116-22 13 0020 to $2, 503 , 000; 01-116-22 42 0003 to $58, 000; 01 -116-22 4.2 0004 to $2, 879, 000 . Motion carried unanimously . 23 . DAV ID INVESTMENT CO . 1987 EMV Assessor's Rec . 14-116-22 13 0005 357, 000 357, 000 14-116-22 42 0002 3,000 3 , 000 MOTION: Pidcock moved, seconded by Anderson, to sustain the 1987 Estimated Market Value on the David Investment Co . properties , 04-116-22 13 0005 at $357, 000 and 14-116-22 42 0002 at $3 , 000 . Motion carried unanimously. 24. RENEE GIGLIO STROM - Residential Non Homestead 1987- EMV Assessor' s Rec. 25-116-22 21 0024 88, 900 88, 900 25-116-22 21 0025 88, 900 88, 900 MOTION: Anderson moved, seconded by Harris, to sustain the 1987 Estimated Market Value on the Strom properties, 25-116-22 21 0024 at $88, 900 and 25-116-22 21 0025 at $88, 900 . Motion carried unanimously. ;la Board of Review Minutes -9- June 2 , 1987 R. 25 . PATRICIA & TIMOTHY CRAIN, JR . - 7919 South Bay Curve 1987 EMV Assessor' s Rec . 17-116-22 24 0001 202 , 700 183 ,000 MOTION: Pidcock moved, seconded by Anderson, to reduce the 1987 Estimated Market Value on the Crain property, 4 PID 17-116-22 24 0001 , to $183 , 000 . Motion carried unani- W mously. 26 . MTS SYSTEMS CORP. 1987 F,MV 15-116-22 21 0004 5, o4o , 000 15-116-22 23 0004 4,000 15-116-22 42 0002 (0001 ) 229, 000 15-116-22 13 0001 969, 000 15-116-22 22 0010 6. 1.59 , 700 City Assessor Sinell noted Staff has discussed this with MTS representatives and MTS has not indicated if they feel values are correct or incorrect . MOTION: Anderson moved , seconded by Pidcock, to affirm the 1987 Estimated Market Values on the MTS Systems Corp. properties : 15-116-22 21 0004 at $5,040, 0o0; 15-116-22 23 0004 at $4,000; 15-116-22 42 0002 (0001 ) at $229, 000; 15-116-22 13 0001 at $969, 0001 15-116-22 22 0010 at $6 . 159, 700 . Motion carried unanimously . 27 . Q PETROLEUM CORP. 1987 EMV Assessor' s Rec . 14-116-22 31 oo4o 4o9, 800 4o9.800 MOTION: Anderson moved, seconded by Pidcock, to sustain the 1987 Estimated Market Value on the Q Petroleum Carp. property, PID 14-116-22 31 0040, at $409,800 . Motion carried unanimously . 28 . MARIAN WINES - 6993 Edgebrook Place 1987 ENV Assessor' s Rec . 03-116-22 44 0013 313 , 500 291 ,000 i Board of Review Minutes -10- June 2, 1987 m MOTION: Pidcock moved, seconded by Harris, to reduce the 1987 Estimated Market Value on the Wines property, PID 03-116-22 44 0013 , to $291 , 000 . Motion carried unanimously. At this point the Council reopened discussion on the Floyd Siefferman property (see page I of Minutes) which had been tabled earlier in the meeting. Mr . Siefferman said he has felt for many years that his lot price was too high and he felt this was the time to try to attain equity. Harris said she thought Mr . Siefferman had a very well- documented case and the second level of review at the County might provide an opportunity for further consideration of this matter that the Council is unable to give . i MOTION: Harris moved, seconded by Anderson, to sustain the 1987 Estimated Market Value on the Siefferman property. PID 03-116-22 44 0029, at $270,300 . Motion carried with Pidcock voting "No . " IV . OTHER BtJSINESS There was none . V . ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION NO . 87 140. ACCEPTING THE 1987 ASSESSMENT MOTION: Anderson moved , seconded by Pidcock, to adopt Resolu- tion No . 87-140, accepting the 1987 assessments. Motion carried unanimously . V I . ADJOURNMENT MOTION: Anderson moved, seconded by Pidcock, to adjourn the meeting at 7: 25 PM. Motion carried unanimously.