City Council - 05/14/1987 - Board of Review APPROVED MINUTES
CITY OF EDEN PRAIRIE
BOARD OF REVIEW
TUESDAY , MAY 14, 1987 7: 30 PM, CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
7600 Executive Drive
BOARD OF REVIEW MEMBERS: President of the Board Gary D . Peterson,
Richard Anderson, George Bentley,
Jean Harris, and Patricia Pidcock
BOARD OF REVIEW STAFF: Assistant to the City Manager Craig
Dawson, City Assessor Steve Sinell,
City Staff Appraisers Lorna Thomas,
John Sams, Janice Monson, and Rick
Petersburg, Hennepin County Represen-
tative Don Monk, and Recording Secretary
Jan Nelson
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
ROLL CALL: Board Member Richard Anderson was absent .
I . CALL MEETING TO ORDER
Board of Review President Peterson called the meeting to
order . Assistant to the City Manager Dawson stated notice
of this meeting had been properly published in the Eden
Prairie News ; notice of the meeting was also included on
each valuation notice which was sent to homeowners . Dawson
said the purpose of this meeting was to allow any tax payer
to come before the Board of Review to request the Board act
to amend the classification or property valuation which the
City Assessor and his Staff has determined to be appropriate
to that property .
City Assessor Sinell reviewed the procedure to be used for
tonight ' s meeting; appellants appearing in person would be
heard first and then letters from those appellants not able
to attend would be read into the record .
II . ORDER OF BUSINESS
A . Personal Appeals
1 . FLOYD SIEFFERMAN - 6997 Edgebrook Place -
03-116-22 44 0029
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Mr. Siefferman said the assessed valuation of his lot
has increased 80% in five years and no other lot in
his neighborhood has increased that much . He reviewed
several lot and house values in the Cardinal Creek
neighborhood for the Board and stated that he felt
his assessed valuation should be at least $21 , 000 less .
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Pidcock asked City Assessor Sinell why the staff be-
lieved values in this area went up 6% last year .
Sinell said every year the Staff studies the sales
of existing property versus the assessor' s market
values and their comparison of that information in-
dicated that a 6% increase was appropriate .
Bentley noted the only comparables that can be used
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would be those sold prior to January 1st . Bentley
asked Sinell to address Mr. Siefferman' s comment that
his lot price has increased 80% in five years . Sinell
said that many times the first lots in a subdivision
are sold for a lower price to get the neighborhood
started ; later the lot prices are increased .
Bentley said he would like to have Staff take another
look at this property, primarily because of the issue
of lot price and the question of whether one lot can
be significantly higher than others in a subdivision.
Pidcock noted that Cardinal Crrek has had a history n
of very long marketing periods for resale .
MOTION: Bentley moved , seconded by Harris, to refer
the Siefferman property, PID 03-116-22 44 0029, to
Staff for further review and research on comparable
neighborhoods and other sales within the Cardinal
Creek neighborhood . Motion carried unanimously.
2 . DOUG REUTER - 8750 Black Maple Drive - 24-116-22 21 0057
3 . AL TRAYNHAM - 8698 Black Maple Drive - 24-116-22 21 0054
4. SCOTT DRUM - 8746 Black Maple Drive - 24-116-22 21 0056 ffi
5 . THOMAS HALLER - 8758 Black Maple Drive -
24-116-22 22 0027
Doug Reuter said several residents along his side of
Black Maple Drive believe the values of their homes
have suffered severely from the lower quality of
development that has occurred on the other side of the
street . He reviewed current values and resale prices
in the neighborhood for the Board and said they would
like to see the entire street lowered in value .
City Assessor Sinell said his staff would like to do
a complete appraisal on each one . Reuter said the
appraisers have been in his house three times in three
years and he didn 't see any benefit in another appraisal .
Sinell noted that the appraisers who performed those
appraisals have left the staff.
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James Cramer said he agreed with Mr . Reuter ' s comments .
He said he had built a much nicer home in Amsden Hills
seven years ago on a larger lot . Last year that property
on Talus Circle was assessed at $162 , 000 while the
value on his home on Black Maple Drive was assessed
at $174, 000 . He noted that one of the homes directly
across the street from him was appraised at $105,000 .
MOTION: Harris moved, seconded by Pidcock to refer
the following properties to Staff for further review:
Reuter property PID 24-116-22 21 0057
Traynham. property PID 24-116-22 21 0054
Drum property PID 24-116-22 21 0056
Haller property PID 24-116-22 22 0027
Motion carried unanimously .
6 . KENNETH JOHNSON - 16370 Westgate Drive -
08-116-22 41 0020
Mrs . Johnson said their assessed valuation was increased
by $17,500 this year; none of the other houses in the
f area was increased that much. She said she asked Staff
about the increase and was told there was an $8,000
increase in land values across the board plus $3,400
for the porch they added to their home . She said
that leaves $6, 100 of the increase unaccounted for .
In the future Bentley said he would like to see docu-
mentation of the increases with a breakdown of the
specific items included in the increase and the appraised
value from the preceding year to compare to this year 's
appraised value .
City Assessor Sinell said the point of the annual assess-
ment is to physically appraise 25% of the property and
come up with a new value which reflects the current
market value . He said this entire neighborhood was
reappraised this year and the big increase in this
property is in the lot value .
MOTION: Pidcock moved, seconded by Bentley, to refer p
the Johnson property, PID 08-116-22 41 0020, to Staff
for further review.
A discussion followed regarding what items Staff
should review. Harris said she had a question as to
whether the average increase across the neighborhood
was the same . Appraiser Thomas said the increase for
the land value was the same throughout the Westgate
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neighborhood and was based on vacant land sales that r
had taken place .
Bentley called the question. {
VOTE ON THE MOTION: Motion carried unanimously.
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7 . JAMES E . JORDAN - 16210 Westgate Lane -
08-116-22 41 0012
While Mr. Jordan was not present, Bentley said he would
assume this involved issues similar to the previous
property on, Westgate .
MOTION: Bentley moved, seconded by Pidcock, to refer
the Jordan property, PID 08-116-22 41 0012, to Staff
for further review in order to provide more detailed
information as to the justification for the increase .
Peterson said he thought it was important to focus
on the Estimated Market Value of the property and to
determine if that is a reasonable value . If the EMV
is reasonable, then the rate of increase is somewhat
immaterial .
VOTE ON THE MOTION: Motion carried with Peterson
voting "No .,,
8 . JAMES V . CRAMER - 8754 Black Maple Drive -
24-116-22 21 0058
MOTION: Bentley moved , seconded by Harris , to refer
the Cramer property, PID 24-116-22 21 0058, to Staff
for further review. Motion carried unanimously.
9 . BILL SMETANA - 16171 Westgate Lane - 08-116-22 41 0026
Mr. Smetana said he knew land values have increased
but not as much as the increase in the lot valuation
would indicate . He said they are still paying for
the sewer and water.
Pide ock said she thought Mr . Smetana had a. valid point
regarding the sewer and water. Sinell said he con-
sidered that to be similar to having a mortgage on
your property--the market value of the property is still
the same .
MOTION: Bentley moved, seconded by Pidcock, to refer
the Smetana property, PID 08-116-22 41 0026, to Staff
for further review of the justifications for the assess-
ments .
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Peterson asked if we are asking for review or just
more written data. Bentley said previously this has
been interpreted as meaning Staff is to do whatever is
needed to justify the assessment or to sit down with
the property owner and work out an alternative agree-
ment .
VOTE ON THE MOTION: Motion carried with Peterson
voting "No . "
10. STEVEN & JANE HACKETT - 6880 Hallmark Drive '
04-11.6-22 34 0071
Jane Hackett said they have new construction and they
feel the assessed valuation was done unfairly, consider-
ing the other values in the neighborhood . She said
the house next door is very similar and that was assessed
at $131 ,400 .
City Assessor Sinell said the review has not been com-
pleted and they would recommend referral to Staff for
completion of the review .
MOTION: Harris moved, seconded by Pidcock, to refer
the Hackett property, PID 04-116-22 34 0071 , to Staff
for completion of the review. Motion carried unanimous-
ly.
11 . ROBERT NEWBERRY - 10323 Nottingham Trail -
25-116-22 13 0069
MOTION: Pidcock moved, seconded by Harris, to refer
the Newberry property, PID 25-116-22 13 0069, to. Staff
for review. Motion carried unanimously .
12 . SCOTT DOWNEY - 6651 Countryside Drive -
05-116-22 31 0061
City Assessor Sinell read a note from Mr. Downey in
which he objected to the large increase in market value
since they have made no improvements to their home .
MOTION: Pidcoc k moved, seconded by Harris, to refer
the Downey property, PID 05-116-22 31 0061 , to Staff
for further review. Motion carried unanimously.
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13 . TENENBAUM-HILL ASSOC . , INC . - Commercial Property
11 -116-22 42 0013 (Spencer Dean, Sr. )
11 -116-22 42 0002 (Hustadzs)
11-116-22 42 0003 (Quads)
11-116-22 42 0004 (Oldre)
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11 -116-22 42 0005 (Frana)
11 -116-22 42 0009 (Town & Country )
11 -116-22 42 0025 (Lake Ridge Assoc . )
11 -116-22 42 0036 (Lundgren, Johnson, Petersen)
11 -116-22 42 0037 (WCO 'B Partners )
11 -116-22 42 0038 (WCO 'B Partners )
11 -116-22 42 0040 (Top Property)
11 -116-22 42 0041 (Ryan Development )
Mr. Bruce Sanders, representing Lake Ridge Office
Park, said he had some additional information and would
like to work with Staff on the review of this office
building.
MOTION: Pidcock moved, seconded by Bentley, to refer
the Terienbaum-Hill Assoc . , Inc . properties, PIDs
11 -116,-22 42 0013, 11 -116-22 42 0002 , 11 -116-22 42 0003 ,
11 -116-22 42 0004, 11 -116-22 42 0005 , 11 -116-22 42 0009,
11 -116-22 42 00259 11 -116-22 42 0036, 11 -116-22 42 0037,
11 -116-22 42 0038, 11 -116-22 42 0040, 11 -116-22 42 00419
to Staff .for review. Motion carried unanimously. F
14. ROBERT ROSS - 9260 Overlook Trail -
24-116-22 34 0028
Robert Ross said that he was a new resident and that
his assessed valuation increased 30-33% this year.
While the basement had been finished by the previous
owner, he still didn't understand why the valuation
was increased by $4,800 and would appreciate a review
of the property by the Staff .
MOTION: Bentley moved, seconded by Harris, to refer
the Ross property, PID 24-116-22 34 0028, to Staff
for further review. Motion carried unanimously.
15 . RICHARD & FRANCES DOHRMANN - 18517 Harrogate Drive -
06-116-22 31 0016
Richard Dohrmann said he wasn 't sure how to proceed in
evaluating his property and would like to determine if
the increase in his assessed valuation was similar to
that of other property in his neighborhood.
MOTION: Bentley moved , seconded by Pidcock, to refer
the Dohrmann property, PID 06-11.6-22 31 0016 , to Staff +
for review. Motion carried unanimously.
16 . BRIAN & KAREN RINDAL - 15633 Canyon Ridge -
16-116-22 32 0019
Brian Rindal said he bought his house a year ago for
for $127, 600 and his estimated market value is now
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$139,400 . He said to his knowledge there had been
no assessor through his property and he wanted to
appeal the assessed valuation .
MOTION: Bentley moved, seconded by Pidcock, to refer
the Rindal property, PID 16-116-22 32 0019, to Staff
for review . Motion carried unanimously .
B . Written Communications
Written communications were received from the following fl
and are attached to these Minutes .
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1 . DUANE E . CHUMLEY - 13601 James Place - z
03-116-22 34 0050
MOTION: Bentley moved , seconded by Pidcock, to refer
the Chumley property, PID 03-116-22 . 34 0050, to Staff
for further review. Motion carried unanimously.
2 . PETER J . RAND - 15361 Village Woods Drive -
16-116-22 34 0016
MOTION: Bentley moved , seconded by Harris, to sustain
Cthe Assessor' s estimated market value on the Rand
property, PID 16-116-22 34 0016 . Motion carried unani-
mously.
3 . RICHARD NUBSON - 15505 Morraine Way -
16-116-22 31 0031
MOTION: Pidcock moved , seconded by Bentley, to refer
the Nubson property, PID 16-116-22 31 0031 , to Staff
for further review. Motion carried unanimously.
4 . DAVID R . JOESTING - 6835 Sand Ridge Road -
03-116-22 43 0008
MOTION: Harris moved, seconded by Pidcock, to refer
the Joesting property, PID 03-116-22 43 0008, to Staff
for further review. Motion carried unanimously.
5 . JAMES & LINDA MORTELL - 10403 Brown Farm Circle -
35-116-22 11 0079
MOTIONS Bentley moved, seconded by Pidcock, to refer
the Mortell property, PID 35-116-22 11 0079, to Staff
for further review. Motion carried unanimously.
6 . BRUCE H. ELLIASEN - 9635 Bennett Place
25-116-22 23 0022
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MOTION: Bentley moved , seconded by Harris, to sustain
the Assessor' s estimated market value on the Elliasen
property, PID 24-116-22 23 0022 . Motion carried unani-
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7 . OLYMPIC HILLS CORPORATION - Olympic Hills Golf Course
23-116-22 44 0025
23-116-22 44 0026
24-116-22 33 0007 E
24-116-22 33 0008
24-116-22 34 0045
25-116-22 21 0045
25-116-22 21 0046
25-116-22 22 0016
25-116-22 22 0037
25-116-22 23 0027 .
MOTION: Bentley moved, seconded by Harris, to sustain
the Assessor' s estimated market value on the Olympic
Hills Corporation properties, PIDs 2.3-116-22 44 0025 ,
23-116-22 44 0026 , 24-116-22 33 0007, 24-116-22 33 0008,
24-116-22 34 0045, 25-116-22 21 0045 , 25-116-22 21 0046 ,
25-116-22 22 0016 , 25-116-22 22 0037, 25-116-22 23 0027 .
�( Motion carried unanimously .
8 . EDENVALE GOLF COURSE - Edenvale Golf Course
09-116-22 41 0002
04-116-22 44 0001
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10=116-22 32 0049 r
09-116-22 11 0003 �
MOTION: Harris moved , seconded by Pidcock, to sustain
the Assessor's estimated market value on the Edenvale
Golf Course properties, PIDs 09-116-22 42 0002,
04-116-22 444 o001 , 10-116-22 32 0049, 09-116-22 11 0003 .
Motion carried unanimously.
9 . DANIEL JOHNSON 5420 Mt . Normandale - Double Bungalow
09-116-22 31 0011 Non-Homestead
MOTION: Pidcock moved, seconded by Bentley, to refer
the Johnson property, PID 09-116-22 31 0011 , ' to Staff
for further review . Motion carried unanimously.
10 . PERKIN-ELMER CORP. - Industrial Property
01 -116-22 13 0018
oi -116-22 13 0019
Oi-116-22 13 0020
01 -116-22 42 0003
01 -116-22 42 0004
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MOTION: Harris moved , seconded by Bentley, to refer
the Perkin-Elmer Corp. properties , PIDs 01-116-22 13 0018,
01-116-22 13 0019, 01-116-22 13 0020, 01-116-22 42 0003 ,
01-116-22 42 0004, to Staff for review. Motion carried
unanimously .
11 . DAV ID INVESTMENT CO . - Commercial Property
14-116-22 13 0005
14-116-22 42 0002
MOTION: Pidcock moved , seconded by Harris, to refer
the David Investment Co . properties, PIDs 14-116-22
13 0005, 14-116-22 42 0002 , to Staff for review.
Motion carried unanimously .
12 . RENEE GIGLIO STROM - P. 0 . Box 24108 - Residential r
25-116-22 21 0024 Non Homestead
25-116-22 21 0025
MOTION: Bentley moved , seconded by Pidcock, to refer s
the Strom properties, PIDs 25-116-22 21 0024, 25-116-22
21 0025, to Staff for further review. Motion carried
unanimously.
13 . PATRICIA & TIMOTHY CRAIN, JR . — 7919 South Bay Curve
17-116-22 24 0001
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MOTION: Pidcock moved , seconded by Bentley, to refer
the Crain property, PID 17-116-22 24 0001 , to Staff
for review . Motion carried unanimously.
14. MTS SYSTEMS CORP. - Commercial/Farm
15-116-22 21 0004
15-116-22 23 0004
15-116-22 42 0002 (0001 )
15-116-22 13 0001
15-116-22 22 0010
MOTION: Harris moved, seconded by Bentley, to refer
the MTS Systems Corp. properties, PIDs 15-116-22 21 0004,
15-116-22 23 0004, 15-116-22 42 0002 (0001 ) , 15-116-22
13 0001 , 15-116-22 22 0010, to Staff for review. Motion
carried unanimously. r
15 . Q PETROLEUM CORP. - Commercial
14-116-22 31 oo4o
MOTION: Bentley moved, seconded by Harris, to refer i
f the Q Petroleum Corp. property, PID 14-116-22 31 0040,
(� to Staff for review. Motion carried unanimously.
16 . MARIAN WINES - 6993 Edgebrook Place - 03-116-22 44 0013 M1
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MOTION: Pidc ock moved, seconded by Harris, to refer
the Wines property, PID 03-116-22 44 0013, to Staff
for review. Motion carried unanimously.
III . CLOSE MEETING
MOTION: Pidcock moved , seconded by Harris, to reconvene the
Board of Review at 6 : 00 PM, Tuesday, June 2, 1987, prior to
the City Council meeting. Motion carried unanimously.
Bentley noted that Staff did a very good job in putting
together the overall assessed valuation for the past year.
The consensus was that Staff should be commended for their
effort . Assistant to the City Manager Dawson noted that the
the entire assessing staff attended the meeting tonight .
MOTION: Harris moved , seconded by Bentley, to adjourn the
meeting at 9:40 PM . Motion carried unanimously.
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