City Council - 05/27/1980 - Special Meeting EDEN PRAIRIE CITY COUNCIL SPECIAL MEETING
27 May, 1980
COUNCIL ME14BERS PRESENT: Wolfgang Penzel, David Osterholt , Sidney Pauly,
Dean Edstrom, Paul Redpath
OTHER$ PRESENT: Gerry Wigen, Community Center Committee
Dick Anderson, Community Center Committee
Bob Johnson, Parks Commission
Lyle Shaw, School Board and Community Center
Committee
Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services
Mr. Penzel called the meeting to order at 9:35 P.M. He stated that the purpose
of this meeting is to review the Design Development Phase of the Community
Center. No details would be discussed at this time, only basic review of
the design and budget, so the architect can proceed with the next phase of
working drawings if approval of design development is accomplished tonight.
Mr. Smiley, representing Smiley Glotter Architects, introduced his staff
present at this meeting: Gary Nyberg, project architect; Dias Matsumoto,
project manager; Joe Doleis, project engineer.
Architect's Design Review - Gary Nyberg
Nyberg presented the design. He said the site study is unchanged from the
last review. He reviewed the drawings pointing out certain specifics:
200 folding seats in the pool area, and 1218 folding seats in the hockey
arena. 4 team rooms, two of which include locked storage areas.
He stated a figure skating club room (north end of rink) was added as an
alternate. It inoludes a viewing window, spaces for desk and sound system
and 2 locker areas for men and women.
Nyberg pointed out that the seoond floor (situated over part of the downstairs
lobby, office, team rooms and alternate handball courts) is designed to have
an elevator opening to an open lounge area (30' x 40'). The lounge area has
a window for viewing the ice arena. There is another room on this level
(possible exeroise/weight room), stairs, and a mechanical room.
Nyberg said there is a sloped "Kalwall" skylight so one can see up to the
upper low-. a from the main level entry area. There is another "Kalwall"
panel (vertical) used in the pool area. He pointed out that these skylights
provide a good source of natural lighting as well as give good identity to
the structure.
Nyberg showed how the building is designed into 4 different height zones:
1. hockey arena is the highest
2. swimming and handball areas make the next lower zone with skylights
as a link
3. zamboni and mechanical rooms, next lower
4. main entry and looker rooms, lowest zone.
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These height zones can be set off in different exterior colors to give interest.
Penzel asked if there was a running track in the hockey area. Nyberg said if
the first 2 rows of seating were removed this area could be used as an informal
track.
Penzel asked why the external window to the concession area was removed. Nyberg „
said they were trying to minimize door and windows for the sake of vandalism.
Also, pool activity will probably keep the building open when the playing
fields are in use, thus inside access to the concession area should not be
a problem.
Nyberg said the exterior would mostly be painted textured block and plain
block walls will be used inside. The inside walls would be treated with a
spray for accoustical purposes in crucial areas.
Mechani.-al Review — Joe Doleis
Doleis stated that metal halide light fixtures, mounted flush to joists (25'
from ice) will be used in the hockey arena, with flourescent lighting over
the spectator area.
Diffusors w,; 11 be used over the pool area with flourescent lighting over
the spectator area.
Flourescent lighting will be used throughout the rest of the building.
The hockey area will be heated just enough to keep the outside wall pipes
from freezing. The ground under the rink will also be heated.
An underground air duct is designed around the pool area.
Doleis estimated the heat recovery in this building will be about 7e/ which
will be used mainly in the pool area and locker rooms.
Doleis said a couple of small individual ventilation units will be put in the
meeting rooms and one unit in the raquetball area.
Costs — bias Matsumoto
Matsumoto explained that in the design development phase they have tried to
keep all the things the program asked for and still give a quality building.
The main building cost (swimming pool/ice arena per
design development drawings) is estimated at $294759783•00
(Includes architect t s fee, inflation cushion, eta.)
Add alternates are as follows:
1. R 1 — Exterior concrete deck and wading
pool 35rOOO•00
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2. R2 - Raoquetball/handball/community
rooms 3009000.00
3. R3 - Figure Skating Room 18,000.00 $353,000.000 Y
MOTION: Redpath moved that the architect Is proceed per letter of
May 27, 1980, and design and bid the following deduct alternates as
well:
3. Unfinished 2nd Floor space 8,900.00
4. Arena bleachers - omit 1000 seats
figures 81,600.00
5. Pool bleachers - omit 235 seats
figured 149000.00
9. Lookers and benches in pool area
reduce to 50 in lieu of 100 7,500.00
10. Omit dasher boards, boxes, etc.
(option - purchase used) 55eOOO•O
12. Omit ice rink equipment & piping
(option - possibly lease purchases) 200,000.00 $ 367,000.00
Edstrom seconded the motion and it passed unanimously.
DISCUSSION: **It was recommended that Item Dl, Site Lighting ($15,000.00) be
added as an alternate.
Doleis said the water service for this building will require 2 fire hydrants.
The closest water now is 6002 away at the high school. He suggests that rather
than take water from the school, a line be run along Valley View Road. Penzel
said this could be worked out as long as it is planned for before the road
goes in.
Mr. Smiley voiced some concern that as the Council approves this plan and j
asks the architects to proceed with the design and bid of alternates as well
as the main building plans, it might be difficult to stay within the bond
issue budget. Smiley felt the Council should be aware of this concern.
The meeting was adjourned at 10:30 P.M.
Respectfully submitted,
Carrie Tietz
Recording Secretary (substitute)