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City Council - 03/02/1978 - Special Meeting APPROVED MINUTES SPECIAL EDEN P.RAIXT-E .:ITY COUNCIL b22TING ' iL'.SiAY, MARCH 22 1978 7s30 114, CITY FALL ME BERSs Mayor Woifgang Fenzel, Billy Bye, Joan Meyers, Dave Osterrolt and Sidney Pauly COUN"IL STAFFS City Manager Roger Ulstad; Planner Chris Enger; Finance Director John Frane; Director of Coranunity Services Bob Lambert; Engineer Carl Jullie and Recording Socretary Donna Stanley s' i OIhI-R,S FRESENT: Planning Consultant Don Brauer I. ROLL CALL: All members present. II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA M The following items were requested to be added to the agendas F.3. Direction for :.onguissions 4. Parks and zoning recommendations 5. Setting of public hearing date - Olympic hills G. GOALS AND OBJECTIVES 140TION: Bye moved, seconded by Meyers, to approve the agenda as amended and published. Motion carried unanimously. II. DISCUSSIOV Or GUIDE FLAN UPliATE A. IWRODUCTION & EXPLANATION City Manager Ulstad spoke to the introduction to the Guide Plan and explanation of Plan intent,and to the process for changing components. The following points were discussedt 1. The intent of the 'Guide Plan as . a guide for the City to be summarized at the beginning of the document. 2. Changes that effect the document to be stated in concise form, and supportive evidence. 3. Desirability of "selected growth" - more industrial development and multiple dwellings, smaller lot sizes, and innovative housing for low/rioderate housing commitment. 4. Position of the Council to be one of innovatdon rather than of reaction. ' Sl0 3ouncil M•inutes — 2 — Thursday, I-:srch 2, 1978 N B. TRA';SPORTATICN 1. System Priorities City Engineer Jullie spoke to list of Transportation Project Priorities of 3/2/78. Several suggestions were made and are as followsa a. Inclusion of a "Table of Definitions" in the Guide Plan stipulating terms used for designating roads and freeways. b. Brief explanation of reasons for priority set for each item. c. Importance of designating the no. 1 priority, for the reason that much of the development will occur there. d. Envhasis on the use and cost benefit to Eden Prairie of roads considered as top priority projects. e. Review of the Transportation Project Priorities list by Council members, with later consideration at a special meeting. 2. 212 Aligrunent and Priorit4 Discussion took place on the 212 alignment and various opinions were expressed. 3. Dell Road Planning Consultant Brauer responded to questions on the alignment of Dell Road and whether it would extend to Highway 5, to which he responded - in the affirmative. i k. Public Transportatiola Meyers suggested that all new roads be considered on a "use and cost benefit" to the City as part of the City's review process, and* that more "through" streets be designated. She; further suggested that SIDEIAM AND TRAILS be considered as part of the Transportation Section of the Guide Plan. C. HOUSING 1. LoyAbderate Housing Commitment Fault' spoke to the reference in the Guide Plan to six units per acre for manufactured housing to be clustered throughout the City. Osterholt requested that the 1972 Housing Policy be forwarded to all for review. Bye spoke to three questions to be addressed in considering the HRA: (1) Does the City get involved? (2) Do we want to implement through a development corporation? (3) Do we commit ourselves as a City, theoretically? 5tl _ _� - - --. Dou%cil 1•:iriutes - 3 - ii;ursday,, :-march 2, 1978 D. GRC'J7F- 1. Ultimate Ci ty_PoMulation Planning Consultant Brauer spoke to 150,000 as ultimate population that can be accomodated to support transportation, sewer, and etc., and represents a 10% growth in 35 years. He pointed out that these figures are different than the base and pace of growth figures used by the Hetro Council. Xeyers questioned the ultimate population regarding school population, and spoke to Edina experiences as projected to Eden Prairie. Bye suggested locating new schools on the fringe of a neighborhood, rather than as traditionally built in the center, to be used for another purpose if necessary. 2. Total Growth in Relation to Fiscal Di_svarities } rieyers spoke to the percentage of growth as a flsi:al asset and to be encouraged. LAND USE 1. Maltiule Residential. Land Use Designations Discussion took place on designations of density trade-offs and to the projection as a major policy of open space. Osterholt requested clarity of terminology as to low, medium and high density. a City Manager Ulstad defined the term "quasi-public" as church property or used by the public, but not owned by the public. 2. Neighborhood Commercial Land Use Designation$ Excessiveness of locations indicated for neighborhood commercial land use was noted and requested to be out down. Osterholt spoke to a need for an office designation for industrial and commercial land use. Bye suggested that a picture of a typical neighborhood center be used for illustration in the Guide Plan. 3. RL. Residential-low den-sits. Brauer responded to questions on why this designation was located on a City highway, as a plan for a complete omanity center. Meyers questioned whether every community center had to be a complete community, center. 5�� Council Rinu yes - 4 - Thursday, March 2, 1978 F. 07UER ITE A.S 1. NUSA Line Discussion took place on the possibility of moving the MUSA line in order to hold off on demands on public services, noting that it is very costly to the City to build outside this line. 3 Finance Director Frane noted that a statement is needed on the Mitchell, Red Rock Lake Sector, based on population pro- jections. 2. Commission Awards Banouet City Manager Ulstad spoke to information sheet handed out to members at the beginning of meeting on members that have served on various commissions, and requested discussion_ at a later date as to any and ssions. 3. Direction for Commissions Mayor Fenzel ruled this item to be continued. 4. Parks and Zoning Recommendations a Mayor Penzel ruled this item to be continued. 5. Setting of Public Hearing Date - Olympic Hills MTION: Meyers moved to set March 21, 1978 as Public Hearing date on liquor license application- by Olympic Hills, seconded by. Osterholt. Motion carried unanimously. 140TION: Osterholt moved to set March 14, 1978 as date for a special meeting for consideration of the sale of bonds, seconded by, Bye. Motion carried unanimously. G. GOALS AND OBJECTIVES Mayor Fenzel ruled this item to be continued. V. ADJOUR1aIENT MOTIONS Osterholt sooved to adjourn at 11:20 PM, seconded by Bye. Motion carried unanimously.