City Council - 05/17/1977 i
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APPROVED hi I NOTES
EDEh PRAIRIE CITY COUNCIL
TUF.SJAY , MAY 17, 1977 7: 00 Pt✓+, CITY HALL
COUNCIL [IElIBERS : 10,ayor Wolfgang Penzel , Billy Bye, loan
Meyers , Dave 6sterholt and Sidney Pauly
COUNCIL STAI--F PRESENT: City tanager Roger Uistad; City Attorney
Harlan PerLli x ; City Engineer Carl Jul -lie;
Director of CC:m:niunity Services Plart_v Jpssen;
City Planner Dick Putnar:, and Joyce Provo,
Recording Secretary
INVOCATION': City Attorney Harlan Perbix
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE
ROLL CALL : All rnembers present.
Council :neetiiiq began, at 7: 14 PM, as the Board of Review, meeting was held prior to the
Counc.i 1 inset i ng-
I . APPROVAL OF ,GEND.`; AND OTHER ITEMS OF BUSINESS
The following i tens mere requested to be added to the agenda under the "New
r B isiress" category :
A. Discussion on rnini-bikes
r3. Industrial Coe-:mission n,eetinas
C. Request from Tudor Caks for a ternporary Uradinct permit
D. Ccmrnunic(: tion System for Public Safety
E. Disc;:ss ion ofpote}ntial nuisance ordinance
MID TI ON`: Pauly rn..)ved, seconded by Meyers , to approve the agenda as amended
and puLrl ished. Potion carried unanimously.
II . i';It,CI�FS OF THE C LjN1CIL I•IFETItiG HELD TUESDAY, APRIL 19, 1977
Pg. 2, 2nd para. , 1st line, strike "HOK" and insert "Kelimuth, Gbata &
Kassabaum, Inc . , Architects.
Pg. 4, last para. , 2nd line after "Services" add "as an existing Eden Prairie
Policy" .
Pg. 6, 5th para . , add "botiun carri ed unanimously. "
CPg. 9, item 4, change heading to read "Designation of Valley View Road from Mitchell Road to proposed Schooner Blvd. and proposed Schooner Blvd. from Valley View Road
to T. H. 169 as art P"SA route" .
M,OT10IN: Pauly moved, seconded by Osterholt, to approve the minutes of the
Council ric Ling held Tuesday, April 19, 1977, as amended and published . Motion
carried unanirrsously.
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A. ^lf Vista addition by rdenvale, Inc . , request for preliminary plat
arid' rc zonirig from Rural to RM 2 5 and RM 6. 5 for the construction of
artnients and double burica 1 ows The site is located in the NE
corner of Valley View Road & Golf View Drive.
Don Peterson, Edenvale, Inc . , outlined his proposal and answered
questions of Council members.
City Planner Putn m spoke to Planning Commission minutes dated March 14,
nut-i ng that the Planning Commission has had this item before them on
three different occasions
Bill Langer , 1416r-1 Green View Court, President of the Green View
Hor.•2o.•rners r,ssoci ati on, explained that the ho:leov;ners in the Green View
area have two major concerns : 1) eventual traffic pattern on Green
View Drive and 2 ) what the impact of proposed apartments and double
b:)nga l ot-:s will do to their property values and aesthetics of the whole
neighborhood .
t•luri Dri:gseth, 15071 Summerhill , Chairman of the Housing Task Force,
spoke in sipport of the project as this gives the City some housing in
tf',e C".1 ,U 1-1
i ty a little bit lower than -;hat single family housing has been
coming in at.
Ron Lee, 140?1 S•ind-ial Court, concerned that there is a hodgepodge of
things Going into tiie area that are individually nice, but pushed together are
` y less L an attroctive in trita i . .'
Tan Tennison, 14314 Golf View Drive, spoke to traffic problem on Golf View
Drive and also construction on the hill ,as he does not believe things on the
hill can be preserved.
Mr. Peterson explained that it has always been Edenvale' s intent to use the
hill and that the double bungalows are as nice as any home in the Golf View
subdivision , and people will not be able to tell if these are double bungalows
if the; don ' t count the doors.
Dave Anderson, 14049 Wedgeway Court, questioned why this area would not be
successful for single family homes . Mr. Peterson replied because of the cost
this area is not economically feasible for single family housing, and there
is a strong desire for double bungalow units in this kind of environment.
Osterhalt expressed his concern about the entrances and exits on to
Golf View Drive and people traveling on that road.
tlUTiO^; : tleyers moved, seconded by Bye, to close the Public Nearing on
Golf Vista Addition. Motion carried unanimously.
Osterholt stated he would like to go out and view the site before he votes
on the proposal . Mr. Peterson stated he would not be opposed to the Council
rncir;bers wishing to view the site.
MOTION: Eye moved, seconded by Meyers , to continue any action
on Golf Vista Addition to June 14, 1977 Council m.eetinq. Motion carried
unanimously.
B. Exter!,.ian of For-est Hil I Road to Eake'r F,c),-jd , 1 - C . 51 -294
City Er;qineer Jul lie spoke to traffi
c counts taken on old Valley View
Road, new Valley View Road, Golf Viev; Drive and Kingston Drive, and
to the seven alternatives and cost of same .
Bill Lojiqer, 14- 16D Green View Court, re&d a letter submitted by
Mr. John LoLdDer, dated May 17, 1977. (letter attached as part of
minutes ).
Crlor,_--ns , 14015 Forest Hills Road, stated he did not really
�-Jwther t1here is a great reed for a throuqh
street on Forest 1--lill Road .
Dori Oph:ijn, 13731 Theresa Piave , questioned if there is a problem
rich*. now. City Engineer Jul lie responded he has not heard of any
concerns directly to his departrient on Kingston north of Holly.
I-11r. Ophein -Felt Tnoney should be put into an arterial route.
Don Peterson, 7025 I-lariann Drive, stated he thought the ultimate
solution should be consideration of Mitchell Road to Baker Road.
11r. Peterson felt this question should be delayed until the residents
in the neighb,.Drhood desire C-3 road and until there is a definite need
for an extension of Forest Hill Road to the east .
John 1-.Iestl and , 13730 Theresa Place, spo,'.-,e against the extension of
the existing dEadend at Tficresa toward the south as he could not see why
the City should ;-,.&[,e a throu^h street of Theresa %,,,her 5aker Rcad
is only a block away.
Wilbur Gjersvik, 7102 Baker Road, could not see building a road until
sev,,er Gnd water is available.
MO 7 1 0,1,� Osrholoved, seconded by Bye, to close the Public Hearing
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and that consideration of the extension of Forest Hill Road to Baker Road
not be approved at the present time. Hot-Ion carried unanimously.
C. Wve 'I1c.JL) 0 ,/Cotjntr\, I-itchen b%, CEDO Builders , request for PUD concept
and development stage approval and variances for the construction of
a restijurant/service, station combination on a'pproxirlately 1 . 7 acres at
8050 Flying- Cloud Drive, "W'YE" 14obil station site.
PlLnner Putnam spoke to Staff Report dated Niay 9th and Planning
Curim-Ission ininutes dated May 9th.
Je!;se Schwartz , Jr. , W. Gordon Smith Co. , outlined the proposal and
ansr.,ered questions of Council members .
Dave Gustafson , Country Kitchen International , spuPe to the signing
aspects of the proposal .
NO T 10 N Bye moved, seconded by Meyers , to close the Public Hearing and
adopt Pesolution No . 77-65, approving the request for PUD concept and
develop;:ient stage approval and variances for the construction of a restaurant/
service station combination for Wye t-jobil/Country Kitchen on approximately
1 . 7 acres , and to designate the Pegasus sign as a historic site for Eden
P ra i;-i e. Motion carried unanimously .
�c.ljncilcari E-ve excused himself from the meeting at 9: 30 PM.
IL :' . REPORTS r r0;? ADVISORY COS MISSIONS
A. Rena t from the Parks , Recreation & tatura i Resources Commission
Director of CorTrinunity Services Jessen reported on the Parks , Recreation a
& N1atural Resources Commission meeting Feld Mnnnday, May 16, whereby the
Cor;,nission recor:,7oended approval of the City sponsoring a gymnastics program y
as a part of the City ' s activities .
MIOTIOty: Pauly moved , seconded by Meyers, to approve the sponsoring of a
gymnastics program as a part of the City's activities as recoiaT.1ended
by the Parks , fecreation & Natural Pescurces Comriiission at their
ineeting held tray 16, 1977 . Motion carried unanimously.
V . n:)np;R'1CFS & RESOLUTIONS
A. 1st Peadinq of ;5rdinance No. 338, amendina Human Rights Ordinance
to include Corrrunity Based Set-vices Board to_assisL all supervised
r Ec i dcnti e, 1 pr acrarns or social renabi l i lotion programs
I- ;T I11i;;: Osterholt moved , seconded by Meyers , to approve the 1st Reading '
of Ordinance No. 3S8, amending Human P,ights Ordinance to include
Corniunity used Services Board to assist all supervised residential
programs or social rehabilitation procrii-ms , and to refer this ordinance
to the Human Rights Commission for their review before a 2nd Reading
is given. potion carried unanimously.
B. Resolution No. 77_66 , establishinq_a'll -ina places
MOT?0';: Osterholt moved, seconded by Pauly, to adopt Resolution No.
477-65, estat,lisl�ing polling places . Motion carried unanimously.
C. ^esol u ti on No . 77-67 , aufj nti n election judges for June 14 , 1977
Fire Bondi Referendum 4 -
MOTION: Osterholt moved, seconded by Meyers , to adopt Resolution No.
77-67, appointing election judges for June 14 , 1977 Fire Bond
Referendum. Motion carried unanimously.
D. Resolution Now 77-72 temporarily lri bi ti nc the bpi ngi_nq i n and
installing as residences mobile homes within the Cite of Eden Prairie
Osterholt requested that staff review the records to see if any requests
were granted for mobile homes in our community and if a certain policy
was used by the Council .
NOT]ON : Meyers moved, seconded by Pauly, to adopt Resolution No. 77-72,
temporarily prohibiting the bringing in and installing as residences mobile
homes within the City of Eden Prairie .
Fred laumi&nn, 10,805 Valley Fier•; Road, asked if there were any directives
riven in tli resolution as to the development of the guidelines . City Attorney
Perbix eXnlained that the City is in the process of the Guide Plan review and
that it was his expectation that the mobile home question would be part of the
re v i0w.
D. r 'i , , te;;n.lorarll (7! r11111)iti ^Q tI F_' f 1"1nQir1C1 ' n 3nd
" flC:i;s t'�ltllln one l sty of EclE.r, TPrairie
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OstE,' , ,Ii =elt `iit adopticn of this resolution �':ould be discriminatory.
MUTI0N TO CALL FIREVIOUS Q;-!cSTI0N : hir_vers moved, seconded by Pauly, to call
the prev;ous (;u �st�ion . Motion carried unanimously.
1•rOTc. O' C�r'-:i .Ii:, i10TI041: Meyers , Pauly and Per,zel voted "aye" , Osterholt
: Lion carried.
it 1 ss r{_=v•r rc r"PUif,_'_,`,.'4'u -! c r r,e placed GI-r the � Ic:rliilnt3 COn� ."li iGli agenda
as ii I,'crk 1 'Leii- p rtaininC to conditions and circU:,,ns Dances .
V t r , r`..: C',F CFPS p, C-`I 1I S STC1rS
of Coun-:i l Meml-ers
L,2i n-men- of one rnerm 'er' to the Hurllan Rights Corn miss ion for
a three ear term � —_--
Con ti nued to June 21 , 1977 Council meet i no.
2 Cor rlci 1 G :s b 0!)jeCt i .-es for 1 C•77` 78
M,'.)T I miizn ed, seconded by Meyers , to set a ,P_ci al COtIl1i 11
'Meeting to ccrrsider Coanci I Goals & Objectives for 1977-73
( ore '-Is day Jur�e i 3, 1 977, 7. 110 Fj,i a * C i'L-y h;al p�
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U;IG iill:lotas ly.
G. PCe -Ort Of C i t,v !I-aria cer
I . City Hall_ exrransian plans
City 11anag r C.ilsf:ad suggested to the Council that consideration be
givers to building a 2-story addition to the City Hall of approximately
2,5rj') `_.':�(lar,l _ f�'@t ors each floor, and requested i:uthorizatlon from the
Coi r-ic-i I to prc'c(: ed in contacting _ rchitects for their proposal .
1,0TI01•;: Pauly m,,)ved , seconded by h"eyers , to authorize Staff to
prc,cred to receive proposals frorn architects , rnakir.g certain architects
t,Jthin the City of Eden Prairie are notified if they desire to subrrit
their proposa 1 , and to bring Lack to the Council .
Notion carried unanimously.
2. mainici_pa1 _Li quor
City flanager lllstad spoke to memo from Director of Community Services
Jessen dated May 5), 1977 on comparative figures for Lease vs . Owning
and suggested t.trc �.t)u1 it considar leasing for 2 - 3 years and then see
what position the City t.,ould be in for a Freestanding building.
MOT JON: Oste!-tTolt moves;, seconded by McYers , to instruct staff to proceed
to receive rirrr q;.:ctes, can lease arrangements , fixtures and details on
inventory by the Jwie lath Council rrt•?eting. Motion carried unanimously. �
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. Ver " on Sec"', and redric b;;rren ' s re iu ,st. for a private vf sl?
l i c,uor l i cent e
I•ir. Suck and Mr. Warren wished the City good 1 uci: with 3'r.ini ci pal
Liquor and asked that their request he considered -in 19 .0
if the City does nct ti:�ish to continue with 1r1unicipal Liquor.
4 . Sign Ordinance
City Manager Ulstad explained that all the information regarding
the comparative analysis of the old Sign Ordinance ;Ordirlarice i;o . 261 ) ,
and tyre n .t,r dra17t Si gn Ordinance Sias not. yet 'omen comp i 1ed. This
information will be �-ubi,itted to the Council in the "For Your Information"
paci-ets.
MOTION : Osterholt moved , seconded by Meyers , to continue the
Sign Ordinance to the June 21 , 1977 Zounci1 meeting. Motion carried
unanimously.
5. Request for a Public Hearin(., for Walnut Addition for June 14 , 1977
'^OTIOtr: Osterholt r:ovcd , seconded by rauiy, to set June 14, 1977 as
the Public Hearing date for Walnut Addition . Hoti on carried unan i rrous ly.
6. Rea,uest for a Pu�l_ic Hearing for Edenvale 14th Addition for June 14, 1977
t10-IO"x: Pauly ric,,,. ed , seconded by 114c ers , to set June 14 , 1977 as the
Public Hearing date for Edenvale 14th k=.dd i tion. t`otion carried
unanimously.
C. Rep,)rt. of Director of Conmt,ni-ty Services
1. Cash Park Fee Discussion
Director of Community Services Jessen smoke to his memo dated
April 29, 1977, report on the Cash Park Fee, and answered questions
of Counci 1 r,e!i�bers.
MOT1014 : Meyers moved , seconded by Osterholt, to refer this matter to
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the Parks , Recreation & Natural Resources Corrairission for their
recom,menda ti on , and to the City Attorney for a definition as to what
the City can enforce. Flotion carried unani►Trously.
2. Consideration of Sooner Property
Director of Community Services Jessen spoke' to his memo dated May 13, 1977
and answered questions of Council members .
MOTION: Osterholt moved , seconded by Pleyers , to direct Mr. Jessen
A to negotiate the transaction for the Boomer property subject
to the Riley/Purgatory Watershed District' s participation. Motion carried
unanimously.
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3. Gorra Lease
Director of Community Services Jessen spoke to his memo dated
May 13, 1977 regarding the Gorra House at Anderson Lakes Park-
MOT I ON: Meyers moved, seconded by Osterholt, to direct staff to
draw up a lease agreement to rent the Gorra House at Anderson
Lakes Park for a two-year period at a realistic rate. Motion
carried unanimously.
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4. Re-_port of Tr,:,e Subs i dv Pro• ram
Director of Community Services Jessen spoke to his memo dated May 13 , 1977
regarding t1he Tree Subsidy Program.
t4,0TIOf.' : Osterholt moved, seconded by Pauly, to receive the report
from Director of Commun.i t_v Services Jessen dated May 13, 1977 and
to only reimburse residential properties as by State regulations_
Motion carried unanimously.
D. Report of City Engineer
1. Receive l OC`__z t i ti on for City i n!:�ti:1 1 a ti on o utility_and street
i rovemert s i n the Woodl and Addition of the N'!' Edenval e .Area ,
I. C. 51-"u3
MIDTION - Osterholt moved, seconded by I,eyers , to adopt Resolution
C No. 77-61 , receiving 100;c petitiCP1 , ordering improvements and
preparation of plans and specifications fer public improvemients
in the ldoodlard Additicn, I . C. 51-303. Motion carried unanimously.
2. Prel iminary report on feasibility study for _utility improvements
inlydenvie:° 1 . k:utcher' s Addition and Kurtz Lane , I . C. 51-300
City Engineer Jul l i e spo)l e to his i,.e io dated May 12, 1977 and answered
questions cf Council members .
MJT1ON: Osterholt moved, seconded by Pauly, to direct staff to notify
affected property oE:,ners and poll them to see if they still wish to have
a Public Hearing, and to report results of the poll to the Council .
Motion carried unanimously.
3. E i real flat a_pj,, val for Garri son Forest i st Addition
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NDT ION : Osterholt moved, seconded by Pauly, to adopt Reolution No.
77-69, approving the final plat for Larrison Forest 1st Addition.
Roll Call Vote: Pauly and Penzel voted "aye" , f• eyers and Osterholt
voted "nay" . flotion failed.
Meyers indicated her "no" vote was hecause there is not a street
connection between the two subdivisions .
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4 . Au tho r i tion to i-dvert41 ' r `"' bids. for pavinq machine and roller
City Engineer Ju11 i(, =-Poke to iu.- io dated flay 12, 1977 and answered
questions cf Council r,i�?r;bers.
MOTION OsterlinIt Proved, se .:.n by Pauly, to authorize the advert iser;ent
for bids fora tailgate tyF :: oitu-r;inous paving machine to be received
June 10 and ay.,arded on June : , Motion carried unanimously.
5. Prelimin; ry plat ar)pro.,al for Hipps Vitchell Heights 3rd Addition
City tianager Ulstrrd explained thiat the Planning Commission has recommended
approval of the 1=reliminary plat for Hipps f•iitchell Heights 3rd Addition,
1,10TION: Pauly moved, seconded by Osterholt , to adopt ResolUtiOr.
No. 77- 71 , apY rovi nq the prel i rili nd r•y plat for Hipps Mitchell Heights
?rd Addition subject to the reco�,imendations of the Planning Commission.
Niotion car-,,ied un:'inir7rously.
6. Receive peti t-i on for paving on ki l e Lake Road, I .C. 5?-3 �5
City Lng i near Jul l ie spoke to memo dated f4ay 12, 1977 and ans:rer•ed
questians of Council riembers.
MCI T ION : ',,evers rioved , seconded by Osterholt, to adopt Resolution
No. 77-70, receiving petition and calling for a hearing for June 21 , 1.977.
i'otion carried unanfirously.
E . Renort of r 1 nancE Director -
I. Pavment of Claims Nos. 5466 - F576
M0TIGN' Paul-., moved, seconded by Osterholt , to approve Payment of
Claims t.cs. 5406 - 5576. Roll Cali Vote : Pauly-, Osterholt , Meyers
and Penzel voted "aye" . Motion carried unanimously.
2. Cler r License Lists dated May 3, 1977 and May 17, 1977
f401-1ON: Meyers moved, seconded by Osterholt, to approve the Clerk' s
License. List da ted Ilay 3, 1977, deleting the private kennel license
for Levis & Bodine. Mlotion carried unanimously.
MOOT]Of,: Osterholt moved , seconded by Meyers , to approve the Clerk' s
License List dai:ed May 17, 1977. t•iotion carried unanimously.
VL I . NFI: EUS INESS
A. Discussion on mini-bikes
Meyers referred to call she received from a resident whose son had his
mini-bike impounded by our Public Safety Departr:ient. Tne resident thought this
was a case of discrimination against mini-bikes .
This matter was referred to the City Attorney for his opinion as to hour
the City can regulate mini -bikes or trail bikes , or if we already have an
ordinance regulating same.
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B. In,dus_trial Conmission meetings
' General discussion took place regarding the meeting time and place of the
Industrial Commission.
C. Request _from Tudor Oaks for a�t er; or_arv_ qrading_perrri t
City f;anager Ulstad spoke to the. request from Tudor Oaks for a temporary
grading permit.
m011 ON': Pauly moved, seconded by Meyers , to grant Tudor Oars a temporary
gradi r;g permit. Motion carried unanimously.
D. Ccr:r. urtic.ation -system flor_Public Safety`
MOTIO??: Pauly roved , seconded by h"eyers , to adopt Resolution No. 77-73,
approving Depart-m-ent of Public Safety Radio Service with Hennepin County
for 1977. Motion carried unanimously.
E. Discussion of potential nuisance ordinance
City Menager Ulstad explained that the Council had received a nuisance
ordinance %;hich another municipality has adopted. Ulstad asked the Council
if they would consider such an ordinance for our City.
Council members directed City Attorney Perbix to review the aforementioned
ordinance and draft an ordinance as i t would pertain to our City.
V I I I . A�JOUR,,'I-IEhT
MOTION: Osterholt moved, seconded by Pauly, to adjourn the meeting at 12: 20 AM.
Motion carried unanimously.
John Lobben
14090 Forest Fill Rcad
Eden Prairie , ?•LN 55343
May 17, 1977
City of Eden Prairie
8950 Prairie Read
Eden Prairie X_"; 553 3
Re: i:! LTC ?;E�, "'_NC, 0"" POTE':TIAL E.KTLENSTON OF FOREST t=TLL rO� TO
Pear C"uncil Members:
na,::e is John Lobben and my wife and I reside at 14090 Forest Hill :load
t;:: 'h Our two chi ! drLn, ages fol?r and two. P.lthouch very interested, I am
i:::n!-I;. to tonig ,t' s public fearing dug to a wore. conflict . Therefore,
I instead submit the TolTliwino 'v.?itten comments for your consideration.
Our basic concern is for the safety of our criluren. As I am sure you
C.7e c +' ? E, C^i 'i e1, despite t arenta, efforts, af. en have an
un-fo . _.:n _ Gay_ LF fOr G:n9E f and- , at t res, an unhe.li ,:vc?ole lapse
Of i_e.:mory. . . Often vt._"y C •n':ET;�E:^.t _, . Wjieen playing, despite parental
g.: dance. and su^erviszen, c , l.clren arc often inattentative to pctent. .a1,
dangers especdally lna cross-Ing r^r_Gi s with severe s7.te line
Frcblews.
Presently o:7 Forest Fill T:n,?d tnerc are eiglht Ch lGren under eleven
years of aFe with rive children under ale six. Several other children
are eleven years Of age and older. its you are :wLre, Fore;:t Fill Road
is n v: being e:.zended approximately 300 feet f.or additional homes.
%}:at coupled with two vacant lots on the eS:.isting Forest �i..il Road
coulc .. r:r. a ;aotrntial i^crease in additional ycuna children. Extending
Forest fi,ac to Baker Road would obviously mean additional hones
and ev• :i poten.ially core ehildx-�c!n.
In -,:any w is, that is excellent, but in the context of children safety,
a road exte::sian could not only create a serious safety problem on
Forest Hill Road , but also contribute further to the existing dangers
on GolfView Drive. 'Therefore, we urge that careful consideration be
given to such matters as need, impact, timing, potential traffic
controls (including route) , area road improvements, existing and
projected traffic generators, emerging traffic patterns and future
road e:.tensz.ons so that the potential dangers to our children will be
mini iced.
T a,w sure that you also are concerned, and I do appreciate your willingness
to ci.ve careful consideration to the following brief but relevant comments ,
C questions and su^&esticns :
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1. Does the condition of the existing section between Valley V•ena Road
to Barer road cause some individuals to chose to travel on. GolfView, Y I
Kin,:,ston/Holly and potentially on Forest Hill Road?
2. t �i f f t will the in t:,-.-n extension. del-a v
on plans to upgrade Valley View
3. Would ups,,r;--jding Valley View or e-,-.tendlin- Forest Hill be of greater
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benefit to Eden Prairie Residents?
4. 'Which of tile above is a higher -riority and deserving of limited
funds. assuming source e21vibility?
5. 1 am aware of the counts conducted last: week with and
w-ltrout the barrier on 02-d Valley View Foad . It is my under-
standing that the Old Walley View r-oad section is now under consideration
to be closed Because of possible apartments nd duplex.es . I have
not had th-:t opportunity to review the data collected nor any potential
c c,n c I us i on s d 7,-1 . I do, horwever, co-,-,aiend the council and staff
for this effC7t and am co-nifident teat the data will be studied to
see if in fact T--e-mpc,,-T a --i I y closing Old Valley View Road had
significant enough i7pact on the trr-iffic volume on the new section
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of Valley View ford , Gol= Viewand Kings tor,/Holly to warrant exterld-i
Forest Hill Road with increased danger to children residing there.
6. 1 have heard it steted by some non-residents- that Golf View
residents desire an outlet from Golf View. I am unsure if that
is in fact accurate and do not recall any palling of feelings With
in the p--s:: two rears. Would the city like the homeowners Associaricn
to poll Golf View residents to find out if they desire any additional
ourlets?
7. gnat , if anything could be done to lessen potential- traffic on
Forst Hill Road if it were to be a:-:tended?
a) Of the four routes under ccnsideration, three appear to go
basically straightt to Balker with the fourth angling to Baker
by connecting with Theresa Place. Would a straight route
tend to increase or decrease the volume of traffic, speed,
etc . ? Would the r-:z-,-,ied route discourage the volume of traffic
speed, etc. by being less of a "thoroughfare"?
b) I am wondering as to why these are the only four options under
consideration and not others such as connecting to %lariann
Drive.
c) Considering the width of Forest Hill Road, would no parking
on one or both sides reduce dangers to children?
d) Vrhat affect would stop signs have? lZho is to enforce potential
violators?
8. Regardless if a straight or angled route is chosen, are any potential'
connecting streets contemplated in the future which would add further
to the volume of traffic on Forest Hill and Golf View?
9 . Coui:.' a traffic control review be conducted in light of the
prese.,t Go1fVlew, Kingston, Holly problem and the potential
Forest Hill road c..tension" A careful review of existing and
projected area traffic patterns, volumes and controls seems to
be in order, especially in light of such existing and projected
traffic generators as additional high density apartments, McDonalds ,
restaurants, Prairie View Mall , golf course, potential extension
of Golft-iew Drive through the golf course, etc. Rather than
errecting stop signs on a band aid, petition basis to solve the
problems of a developing section of the city, it would seer.
appropriate to pause, assess, project , pr-_.)ritize, and implement t
In an organized ;canner with input from interested, affected Citi^ens . a
There is an association of hoire owners in the Golf View section
of Edenva'e that would no doubt be most willing to work with the
City Staff because they are interested and concerned about the
steadily --:creasing traffic problem and .c•si.dent safety. The
rolling terrian of the entire area poses site line problems for
not only cars, but also for the most disciplined child.
7- den Prairie is an excellent, progressive community because of the
Council 's willingness to seek neighborhood input as plans are established
which affect not only the future character of the neighborhood, but
also the very safety of its residents. My wife and I appreclate the
» opportunity to s'-4,are our convents as our family is directly affected
by your ultimate decision.
Sincerely,
John Lobben
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BOARD OF RFVI EA'
7'UE.SDAY, 1'T_Y 77, 1977 7:00 P.M. CITY HALL
(C :,tinutinn of £;; ir.^.' of Review
I!ay 1 a 1977)
Penzel , Sidney Paul u,
Joa:7 1.7.^ge-rs, Dave C':'.' er!1o3t, Bi11y fi;;e.
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to aacccpt the 19177 Va2uatjon ASSE'�S
C oun i l woinan Joan I-I;Vers mo-7--A v Councilwoman Sidney Pauly seconded,
:.c ft: 't•. .i 1. r ,:.at."'o:1 €,as made for closing the meeting:
1•":)I'1GIN Coz-Incilmnn Dave Ost&rholt moved, secoLded by Co::ncilwoman Sidney
F'a:u1 y, to cZc�!,e the Boa rd of Peviek• 1,:eeting at 7:10 P.M. and certify
its G'C); ple t3.G1) of the �7( I r IP.4. 1:U1:on CFi: 1.2( C U:'/.31:J'.rl7L Sly.
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