City Council - 03/29/1977 APPFI-OVEl'i '11'1'.'U'TES
SPECIAL EDEN PPAIRIE CITY COUNCIL "HTIN"
TL''E-SD Y, XAPCH 29, 1977 7:00 P!,,% CITY
C U L -I E'R S Mayor I -igang Penzel , Bi 11% B.ve, )De-n
Niovers , Pave Osterh,--lt and Sidney Paul-%
C C L S, TA'.F Fi C-1 ty 1 3ncgei" F:o pe r 1-:11 ta d City f,orne,
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L) I Planre- C! ; Cl,
and keco-d` ng lecreti,�-v Joyce
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ROLL_ CI,,!L Eye:-, 'Pauly L Penzel present ; Meyers absent.
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r a,r tat; e P 1 J. !I t or, or cl Int- ut !,,arch 14. 191-7 , the applicatiun of siding
4 C t E; a I e un ci I ' s attention on t.'eq-an on v�le E� pro to t h.e Co 'ha' date
end also to the Staff at Cit--v -1 1 Th e f ol I o,,,v i no day, N.ar-ch 15 , the Counci 1 did
meet :-md, ra sed concern LboL!t thE CGIOI- of the siding that was bE,41 .rg appliled and d-1 d
-,.,,E: r,3ke evert' e o t- t r find 0 4- 4 I-ie chanizes th6t werc CrCt.o-1-1 ;I re i ate y
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f C,I 1 :5 , U s ;.ad d i d cal I The P-e-serve and re.,-,uested to !:-,eet- wi th 11-h Em a r i d
e 0 f I.,a C i I-,Y s t a f f- riiet. th them arid a I so to 1 k--20 t.n Mr. John Net son,
Pi-E f, -7 11 C e P e F 2 ers 's s�--,c c ri, a nd Mr. N e 1 s o n ir-i-Fori;)ed C i t ta ff
t f-,E h E d vl,as vi-;, ti-i The Preserve --c- I&tive to this rr:,.-L ter. As a result
Of the Uri J'tat i i ,t E.c:n 11 h e E `F D i r e c+1 L)r s of t h E H o!;i ce o l'j r i e r s A s s o c i a t i on
-LinQ -.�as sched,-Ied `c-r the 21st of I- ar-h. At that
and T!,o r es---),v e , an add-iticnE;! r,�Le
, ,e, r g, r--re c, e n a t-; v e f rom t h e N m,L -,.j , � Lior,-- 1 Co+-pc-,i-aticm olf HCUSing Partnerships , Mr. Bob
in-vited to attend the m.eetinq . %.-J-, ich cons�isfcd of The Preserve
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A AlI so on the 21 s t the C i ty d i di request t- the b u 1 der to v�i 'I id ray., from
a L d 41 tiona7, siding but do not knov., if they completely withdrew on that dates.
L:'-;?e r)--Iq of March 23 , the City received a pet`i L i on froi-o a large
fit;, r f residents it, the area. This pet"iltion speaks to four, different points
H b.v u P r-)1,0.% 1.;,;D 'Leiy 275 residents. Then the Mayor did call this meeting yesterday
I-Ir. Ulstad personally contacted the 2 people %vhose naiiies were on the
pc-t-ftior, tJ-,rj---,e being T,Ics. Larry Bell and Dr. & Mrs . Shebuski .
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City Planner Dick rUtnaITI Sr.)C)I,,,e to " Is staff report dated Parch 28, 1977 regarding
h,j t o r ` i
�, o-A the he 16�indslope Project, and an--.-,,ered questions of Council members. (Report
tlaLhed E!s part of minutes, ) .
h , ss . The Preserve , displayed colors Ktained from the Olympic stain company,
Wt th, went through a procedure trying to determine what the term earth
!'�Mn n0ant. The Preserve feels the colors selected meet the criteria . Hess further
e . ; 1cired that the Design Review Committee functions in The Preserve as follows :
3 ) ; Kpary revicw and 2 ) necondary review. The primary review committee consists
& Xr. H-ns , Yr. Gertz , and Fen Person. The projects are brought before this board
wt P : 4 KL�er Yc :eptvd or told to go back and revise. The Windslope project was
w�, i :�nwrly wicnji9d, UK was on the basis of a preseritation of MAN speaking
rh�n� ;� Mr. Yinnton SWOU ' s office. The Preserve did st, Ue application of the color
&L� ike City ruqaLsind i5is be done. At a meet! ng held either an March 24 or March 2S,
iher( as a" vgreenent EK,ng the owners that changes 4 the color wor;Id not Lenefit
OL : j2ct o d the best thing to do would be to apply additional mDnies for landscapAg
of project , not only in the project area but the areas VmudiLicly adjacent to the
prc, Z. The landscape architECt representing The Preserve met with the homeowners
assn. n ion . individuals, and the developer to arrange the kind and type of landscaping
and Core W apply same .
Fayr !! ,wel relnested petition dated March 21 , 1977 -submitted by residents of
Thu TrLyarve tecure part of the record.
Eye s ;Dke to the definition of the Design Review Committee as he saw it. The DRsign
Rc% : ew Unninew is made uj 3 officials of The Preserve. In this particular cave
the c0or =71ce cent Or. wgk the p-Imary Design Review Committee and that was all .
In ctKer cancy , it pwas V the 5eiDnAnry souraE which is m&n up of I representative
CF The Preservc bnd Eye qaPsVoneJ has rany nanners are on the seconqy da
�Vrcc. Hess rosponsed it cowla be 4, 5 or 6 paople an! their pDwer begins where
ct change in to prcjeci has ozcwrred. Pye further queszioned if that means there is
no secondary review until e project is up, Hess replied in the affirmative.
Pauly nu2stinned what cifferent administrative procedurE woold The Preserve use in
appr. ing t4e prQect todiy. Hess responded the project would be mounted where it
woolo �avv public display.
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The fol lo,iry individuals appeared before the Council and a summary is written below
listing their concerns : Max McDermott, 8715 Leeward Circle, John Bergan, 8705 Bentwood
DrivL , Poney rasti , 11320 Windrow Drive, Dave Anderson, 9110 Fox Run Circle , and
jean Shc[uQa , 8724 Leeward Circle.
1 ) Owyntion of earth tones , all you have to do is drive around the
Preserve "nd see other' contractors did not have any trouble defining
earth tcnon ; 2) model at The Preserve Center is not to scale - - the
dista"in :Ttwpen buildings are less than what is shown or, the model and the
sacs Oth the distance from the road; 3 ) impression of the Windslope
Project 45on it was approved that it would not stick out as it does
now; 4 ) ponple in The Preserve were not notified of the colors to
he used; 5) numner of guidelines have been violated in Unstruction
Guidelines of The Preserve 6) how can berms be constructed when
there is only 11 112 feet to the garage as those garages start above
the level of the street . they do not step down ; and 7) in the future
that once a City Council approves something that it is necessary
to follow through and make sure what they thought they approved is
being carried out.
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thy wi th the VcGou glh Coi t— ti on Ccmpa ny and his di si. oc p ,4 n
be a good neig"Ibor cr lack cif 9(,(-)d !,e-jahbor ccncern. Sc rims
tilat C.y i 4-f is taIrliriq aLout a situa-Lion and that a re2iqhI)cr
to stl'!Ict'.t,& t-ci-e-thing of an unLJ'ZLJOl nat!xe , bein;3 a noc)d neighbor is comfl,.uricating
t',jjs is what -is planin&d to be done . Bve-flelt a iotal absence of
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+-.,,hc, v,-as in 'pc-,.,�cr talking to cne person wp.s not in powl,.,er. Wher, this pr j -
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March 23, 1977
Iii cf 3G%' an .3-;,oc Ci _iceZ's ^roup of
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The T.-,si, . ._rce has necn used by city s:,af :en f, citi: s E elected and
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In ?"Iy of 197_ tv.o projects we-re su mittCd for PUI) ifnd `.onin^ approval
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Press:\ s , t•. rc' rt-'1rb:c''d at {;rc.ii. IC:TQ'til bti" the City CoL1nc11
and citi :e:i both ioc:,i and Th^_ Eden Prairie
F:urian I:i ;i:ts Cc,il,riiss :on and ;1.jnning Commission used the }lousing Task
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