City Council - 09/25/1972 - Village Meeting • MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE VILLAGE COUNCIL
Monday, September 25, 1972 7.30 P.M. , High school Cafetorium
Members present ,vere: Mayor Paul R. Redpath, Councilmen Nesbitt, t
Cosmano and McCulloch and Councilwoman Joan Meyers . Also present
were Village Manager, Robert P. Heinrich, Village Attorney, W. Harlan
Perbix, Clerk, Edna M. Holmgren, Finance Director, John D. Frane,
Assessor, Kenneth ;,%/ . Chambers and Engineering Asst. , Eugene
Pchurman.
I. TRUNK SEWER AND TRUNK HATER A"^ESSMENT HEARING
The Mayor opened the hearing, then the Village Manager reviewed and
presented language and graphics for both the sewer and water trunks.
He presented trunk system costs and expected revenue, also rates and
charges contained in Resolution No. 425 and Resolution No. 568
amending No. 425 . He then reviewed the resolution on policy position
on financing sewer and water utilities.
The Mayor then asked for questions and/or comments from the floor.
Dave Osterholt, former mayor,asked for a reason for changing policy on
trunk charges, the omission from the original policy of a provision for
deferred payments to owners of property assessed only for trunk benefit.
He stated that the Council had adopted this policy a year ago and they
felt it was a good policy. The Mayor replied that the staff recommended
the amendments as the only feasible rreans of financing the system.
Mr. Osterholt added that he was still concerned about the burden on
elderly residents who live on a fixed income . The Village Manager
replied that a state law prevents deferral of payments for the elderly.
Mr. Osterholt then stated that he felt that there are alternate Nays to
finance trunk sewers and thought that the Council should consider
other plans .
Mr. Loren Irvine stated that he felt the residents were subsidizing future
developer's projects by providing a deferral of assessment on tracts
that developers plan to plat, subdivide or connect to the system at a
later date, up to 1977. Mr. Jerry Miller, Larry Hanson, and Howard
Kaerwer, all in Topview Acres , felt that the amendment was not fair to
the owner of five to eight acres of land. Mr. Miller charged that the
amendment could force people to develop their land, also added that
apartment dwellers should have to pay the full R£C charge. The Village
Manager expressed the Council's concern for the owner of several acres
who came to the Village in hooes of having lance around them and did not
plan to subdivide. He further stated that because of development and
land costs, the Village has no real aiteniative but to assess on
possible eventual use. He stressed that the policy actually shifts the
burden from the single REC to future development.
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Mrs. Arthur Rogers appeared on behalf of her mother, Mrs. Julia A.
Kicher, 16817 West 62nd Street, Eden Prairie , -who is the owner of
parcel #2400 and 103220 in Section 5 . `"he stated that she felt no deter-
mination of benefit to these properties had been made and that it should
be eliminated from the assessment at this time. The Mayor stated that
he felt she was ma::ing an unwise request but that the Council would
take it into consideration at the time of their decision .
Joseph Dolejsi requested how many housing starts the Village has had,
the Manager replied that there had been less than 100 per year and that
there would have to be 2,500 annually to finance the utilities.
A Kirg's Forest resident asked what would happen if the Village didn't
get the 2 ,500 RrC's as projected. The Manager replied that the user
fees would be raised or by mill levy.
Dave Osterholt as%ed about ways of financing utilities other than trunk
charges. Finance Director, John Frane , stated that there were many
ways of financing, system access charges was one but that any of them
were risky other than assessment. Ile stated that he felt that the
Village was ta,cing the middle course.
Mrs. Russell Lawrence , Sunnybrook Road, stated that she felt the
Village was doing a good job of planning, not like the surrounding
suburbs which have grown hodge podge . the stated that population
growth was moving towards Eden Prairie and that there were few areas
left that could plan as Eden Prairie has done . .She further stated that
the area must have sewer and water to avoid pollution.
Don Peterson, President of Edenvale Corp. , stated that the home owners
were not subsidizing the multiple dwelling and that the developers
would be frontending all trunk charges.
There being no further comments from the floor, Mr. Cosmano made a
motion to continue the hearing on trunk sewer and water assessment
until the regular October 10th Council meeting. Mr. Nesbitt seconded.
All votes aye. Motion carried.
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II. LATERAL SEWER AND -1ATER ASSESSMENT - PARADISE VALLEY. r
Resolution No. 5 82 . Proiect S71-1-16 and 571-7-16 and W71-2-16 and
W71-8-16.
The Manager reviewed and presented the lateral sewer and water assess-
ment project in Paradise Valley.
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There being no questions and/or comments, Mr. Nesbitt made a motion
to close the hearing and adopt Resolution No. 582 approving assess-
ments in Paradise Valley as follows:
Developed Lot Undeveloped Lot
Lateral ater 473 631
Lateral E ewer 1, 780 2 ,374
2 ,253 3 , 005
Mrs. Meyers seconded. On roll call, all voted aye. Motion carried.
III. LATERAL QVATER AND -AfATER ASSESSMENT - THE COVE. Resolution
No. 583. Project S70-1-19.
The Manager reviewed and presented the lateral sewer and water assess-
ment project in The Cove.
There being no questions and/or comments, Mr. Cosmano made a motion
to close the hearing and adopt Resolution No. 583 approving assess-
ments in The Cove as follows:
Developed Lot Undeveloped Lot
Lateral fie-wer 1,224 1 ,633
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Mr. Nesbitt seconded. On roll call, all voted aye . Motion carried.
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TV. ,LATERAL SEWER AND WATER ASSESSMENT - TOPVIEW ACRES.
Resolution No. 534. Protect S71-1-24 and 671-7-24 and ti1J71-2-24.
The Manager reviewed and presented the lateral sewer and water assess-
ment project in Topview Acres. A resident from this area questioned how
the cost is computed when the job is not completed. The Finance
Director stated that he felt that all costs had been taken into considera-
tion and that if the assessment were delayed , it would cause an increase_
in cost to the property owner because of additional interest expense for
another year. Councilman Nesbitt asked why the REC's were not the
same for seiArer and .,vater. Mr. Frane replied that some of them were
hooked directly into the trunks.
There being no further comments and/or questions, Mrs. Meyers made a
motion to adopt Resolution No. 584 approving lateral sewer and water
assessments in Topview Acres as follows:
Developed Lot Undeveloped Lot
Lateral Water 551 734
Lateral Sewer 1 ,284 1 ,712
1,836 2 ,446
Mr. McCulloch seconded. On roll call, all voted aye. Motion carried.
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V. LATERAL SAVER AND 'AIATER EDEN VIE%V 2ND. . P,esolutio
No. 585 . Project S'71-1-16 and 571-7-16 and �t171-2- 16 and 0f71-0-1G.
T'ae Manager reviewed and presented the lateral sewer and water assess-
ment project in Eden View II. A resident from the area asked if all of the
pipe was installed for the water. The Village Engineer replied that it
was but that the easement for the pipe to carry the water was some ,,rays
away. A resident on Eden Prairie Road in the area of two homes not
being served at this time asked when utilities would be available. The
Manager stated that no plans were being made at this time for installa-
tion. t
There being no further questions and/or comments, Mr. Nesbitt made a {
motion to close the hearing and adopt Resolution No. 585 approving
lateral sewer and •-eater assessments in Eden View iI as follows:
Developed Lot Undeveloped Lot
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Lateral 'Hater 547. 729
Lateral newer 1 ,540 2 ,053
2 , 087 2 ,782
Mr. Cosmano seconded . On roll call, all voted aye. Motion carried .
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VT. LATERAL SE'j%fER AND !�rATER ASSESSMENT - NOTTINGHAM FOREST.
Resolution No. 586 . Project 572-1-10 and `e'I72-2-10 .
The Manager reviewed and presented the lateral sewer and water assess-
ment project in Nottingham Forest.
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There being no questions or comments, Mr. Cosmano made a motion to
close the hearing and adopt Resolution No. 586 approving lateral sever
and water assessments in Nottingham Forest as follows:
Developed Lot Undeveloped Lot
Lateral 'iAfater 6 i 5 926
Lateral Sewer 1 , 899 2 ,533
2 ,594 3 ,459
Mr. McCulloch seconded. On roll call, all voted aye. Motion carried.
VII. LATERAL SEL.NER AND ;AIATER ASSESS IVENT - EDEN SCHOOL. Resolution_
No. 587. Project 571-1-18 and 571-2-18.
The Manager reviewed and presented the lateral sewer and water assess-
ment project in the Eden School area. A resident on Eden Court
(, questioned whether the school and property owners on Wallace Road
were paying their share of the assessments. The Manager replied that
they were.
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There being no further questions or comments, Mrs. Meyers made a
motion to adopt Resolution No. 587 approving lateral sewer and water
assessment project in the Eden School Addition as follows:
Developed Lot Undeveloped Lot
Lateral `,hater 688 917
Lateral 5 ewer 1 ,292 1 , 723
1 , 980 2, 640
Mr. Nesbitt seconded_ On roll call , all voted aye . Motion carried.
VIII. LATERAL SMVIM AND "%-rATER ASSESSMENT - ALFiNE, HILLCR EST,
ED . AT_QOD_ ESTH ERHILLS, £T AL. Resolution No . 588.
Proiect S71- 1-20 and P71-7-20 and :-V71-2-20 and W71-8-20.
The Manager reviewed and presented the lateral sewer and water assess-
ment project in the Alpine, Hillcrest, Wenc,rood, and Estherhills areas.
A resident living on Alpine Trail questioned why there were 1/3 REC's
included in their project. The Manager replied that there was some
double bungalo%a type housing in this area assessed at 1-1/3 REC's,
some to trunk sever and some to trunk ;water.
There being no further questions or comments, Mr. Nesbitt made a
motion to close the hearing and adopt Resolution No. 588 approving
lateral sewer and water assessment project in the Alpine, Hillcrest,
at al area as follows:
Developed Lot Undeveloped Lot
Lateral 'A ater 546 728
Lateral Sewer 1 ,429 1 , 905
1 , 975 2,633
Mr. McCulloch seconded. On roll call, all voted aye. Motion carried.
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UC. LATERAL SEWER AND .VATER ASSESSIMENT - K?NG'S FOREST, FOREr-T s
KNOLLS. Resolution No. 589. Project S71-1-23 and S71-7-23 and
571-1-27 and S72-1-07 and S72-1- 14 and S72-1-15 and S72-1-16 and
W71-2-23 and �,:771-8-23 and VN71-2-27 and If72-2-07 and W72-2-14
and W72-2-15 and Af72-2-16 .
The Manager reviewed and presented the lateral sewer and water assess-
ment project in the King's Forest-Forest Knolls area.
There being no questions or comments, a motion was made to close the
hearing and adopt Resolution No. 589 approving lateral sewer and water
assessment project in the King's Forest-Forest Knolls area as follows:
Developed Lot Undeveloped Lot
Lateral Ulater 665 887
Lateral ._ewer 1 ,804 2 ,406
2 ,469 3,293 {
Mrs. Meyers seconded . On roll call, all voted aye. Motion carried.
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X. LATERAL SE`dITER AND I:�ATER AcSFSSMEN`)' - DUCK LAKE AREA.
Resolution No. 590. Project S7I-1-17 and S71-7-17 and W71-2-17
and vV71-8-17.
The Manager revie-r,red and presented the lateral sewer and water assess-
ment project in the Duck Lake area. The Manager read a letter received
from Mrs. Arthur Rogers requesting deletion of her mother's property.
Mr. McCulloch asked what this deletion would do to the cost of the N
project. The Village Engineering Assistant stated that they would have
to construct a force main. John Frane commented that by excluding this
portion -would add $10 more per R EC. j
A representative of the King of Glory Lutheran Church on Duck Lake rail
questioned ho�v many REC's were assigned to this property. Ken
Chambers replied that there were two. Dave Jensen, residing in
Coachlight Manor, asked when he could connect. The Manager replied
that it would be sometime in the middle of November this year.
Dave Husby, Rieke Carroll & Muller Associates, was asked what the
Y estimated cost difference would be in putting in a lift station on '*!Nest
168th Avenue by deleting Mrs . Julia IGucher's property in Section S .
He felt that this could be assessed in the trunk lateral.
A resident in Sterling Field questioned when the streets would be black-
topped, when a resident could hook up on Duck Lake Trail, and whether
the pipe was large enough on Duck Lal:e Trail to handle the new
developments that are being proposed. Mr. Husby replied that the first
mat would be completed this fall, they could hook up on Duck Lake
Trail by November 15th and that the 10" pipe was large enough to
accommodate the Duct; Lake area. Another resident questioned ;r7hy the
cost was more in the Duck Lake area, he ;.vas told that it is a very
difficult area to serve plus less REC' s. Don Rogers, Dunk Lake Trail,
questioned why the streets were not all ulacktopped when the utility
work was finished. The Manager stated that the policy was set to
restore to the original condition of the streets. Mrs. Meyers asked
what difference there would be in the plans if the Kucher property ,sere
deleted and v%rhat maintenance cost there would be. Mr. Husby stated
that there would have to be a lift station to push to Duck Lake Trail
and that only pump service would be required .
There being no further questions or comments, Mrs. Meyers made a
motion to close the hearing and adopt Resolution No. 590 approving
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lateral sewer and water assessment project in the Duck Lake area
deleting parcels 2400 and 3220 in Section 5 as follows:
Develo ep d Lot Undeveloped Lot_
Lateral Water 760 1,013
Lateral !"ewer 2 , 017 2 ,689
2 , 777 3 , 702
Mr. McCulloch seconded. On roll call, all voted aye. Motion carried.
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The meeting adjourned at 11:45 p.m.
Edna M. Holmgren, C1 rk
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