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FLYING CLOUD AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMISSION
THURSDAY,JANUARY 11, 2018 7:00 P.M., CITY CENTER
COUNCIL CHAMBER
8080 Mitchell Road
COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Chair, Keith Tschohl; Vice-Chair, Bob
Barker; Braj Agrawal; Daniel Dorson; Dan
Kiely; Kurt Schendel
COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: Mike Wilson
STUDENT REPRESENTATIVES PRESENT: Nathan Bellefeuille
STUDENT REPRESENTATIVES ABSENT: None
STAFF: Kurt Buchanan, Fire Prevention Specialist;
Randy Newton, Assistant City Engineer; Jan
Curielli, City Recorder
GUEST: Jennifer Lewis, MAC Representative; Gary
Schmidt, MAC Director, Reliever Airports;
Craig Vaughn, SRF Consulting;
I. CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL
Chair Tschohl called the meeting to order at 7:00 P.M.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION: Agrawal moved, seconded by Kiely, to approve the agenda as published.
Motion carried 6-0.
III. PUBLIC COMMENT
None.
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. COMMISSION MEETING HELD THURSDAY, OCTOBER 12, 2017
MOTION: Dorson moved, seconded by Agrawal, to approve the minutes of the
October 12, 2017, meeting as published. Motion carried 6-0.
V. STANDING DISCUSSION ITEMS
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A. NOISE REPORT—MAC
Jennifer Lewis, MAC Representative, distributed copies of the fourth quarter
Reliever Airport Operations and Noise Complaint Report. She reported an
increase in the number of complaints and the number of households making
complaints when compared to last year's fourth quarter; however, the number of
complaints was lower than those received in previous quarters in 2017. She
reviewed the Complaints Heatmap,pointing out two households on the west side
of the airport and two on the east submitted the most complaints. Noise
complaints for FCM operations comprise 35% of the total complaints received for
the MAC reliever airports. She noted the number of complaints compared to the
number of operations was 10% higher than in 2016. The greatest number of
correlated complaints received involved turbo-prop operations. In 2017 they were
able to correlate an average of 69% of the complaints to an aircraft type. She
pointed out percentage columns for operations and complaints were added to the
FCM report page in response to a request from the Commission.
Tschohl commented the 35% for not-correlated operations seems somewhat
higher than in past reports. Ms Lewis said they have not changed the way they run
the correlation process;however, they have seen more complaints come in about
non-FCM operations. The King aircraft flights receive the highest number of
complaints in the turbo-prop category.
Tschohl asked if Ms Lewis had a breakdown of complaints for the jet category.
Ms Lewis said the Citation jet currently receives the highest number.
Ms Lewis said her office sends letters to operators who generate complaints
during night time hours. In 2017 they sent out 99 letters related to 405 operations.
Kiely asked if any of the complaints appeared to be unusual. Ms Lewis said
nothing stood out as unusual. There were some warmer temperatures in December
which may have contributed to the higher number of complaints.
B. AIRCRAFT INCIDENTS AND RUNWAY INCURSIONS--MAC
Gary Schmidt, MAC Director, Reliever Airports, reported there have been no
significant incidents since those reported at the October meeting.
C. AIRPORT DEVELOPMENT UPDATES--MAC
D. JOINT AIRPORT ZONING BOARD (JAZB) UPDATES
Tschohl said the JAZB met a couple of times in late 2017. He was unable to
attend the October 26 meeting, so Commission Member Barker attended the
meeting as Alternate Board Member. Barker reported there was no real action
taken at the October meeting regarding the proposed updates to the 2010 draft
ordinance. Tschohl noted the minutes from that meeting were sent to the
Commission members as part of tonight's meeting packet.
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E. EDUCATIONAL ITEMS
1. Minutes from October 26, 2017 JAZB Meeting
VI. OTHER OLD BUSINESS
A. SUPER BOWL LII UPDATES
Mr. Schmidt gave a PowerPoint presentation of the plans for Super Bowl LII. He
noted they started planning for the event in December of 2016. He reviewed their
planning efforts regarding deicing, closing X's and light plants, wayfinding signs,
coordination with the Fire Department and Police Department, snow removal,
aircraft reservations, and traffic routes. He noted no MAC employee is allowed to
take vacation during the time of the event. While the FAA usually controls slot
times at the airport, they allow reservations to be run by a commercial operator
for a single event such as this. He reviewed the reservation (PPR) system that will
begin on January 31 and end on February 6, noting it is essentially a web-based
ground reservation system that the FAA has turned over to the Fixed Base
Operators (FBO). He reviewed the number of slots reserved for MSP and each of
the reliever airports in the system. The St. Paul, Anoka, and Flying Cloud airports
will each have 22 inbound arrivals per hour, with 8 departures per hour. That
number is reversed for outbound traffic after the event. He reviewed several
diagrams of the airport that showed location and flow for the various functions
such as deicing locations and traffic movement.
Tschohl asked if there will be training for operators. Mr. Schmidt replied they are
inviting all operators to a training course. He noted Mike Wilson, Flying Cloud
Airport(FCM) Manager will be the contact resource for the event. The Super
Bowl website is Fly2sb52.org.
Tschohl commented there was an article in the Eden Prairie News about
restrictions for FCM. He asked how they will prevent infractions of the
restrictions. Mr. Schmidt responded they have to spread the air traffic throughout
the system,but they have asked that registration of aircraft exceeding the
restrictions not be accepted.
Barker asked about the current level of registrations. Mr. Schmidt replied there
usually are not a lot of reservations made until after the last championship game
has been played.
Agrawal asked what happens if an aircraft that has not registered wants to come in
to FCM. Mr. Schmidt responded that would push the line back a little.
Barker asked if the deicing process would reduce the throughput. Mr. Schmidt
replied deicing will slow down operations, especially when the push comes after
half time of the game. They expect 8:30-9:00 p.m. to be the peak time. Barker
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asked if the tower hours are extended. Mr. Schmidt replied they will operate for
24 hours on that Sunday.
Tschohl asked about plans for other traffic not related to the Super Bowl. Mr.
Schmidt said they have reserved two slots per hour for the MAC.
Barker asked if the two slots reserved for the MAC will be IFR only, or if they
will allow VFR traffic. Mr. Schmidt said they would try to handle VFR if they
can,but it will be difficult. They are discouraging recreational flying during that
time. Barker asked if there will be some publication of that fact. Mr. Schmidt
replied there will be some communication.
VII. NEW BUSINESS
A. UPCOMING EVENTS AND TOPICS FOR FUTURE FCAAC MEETINGS
1. City Council Workshop (January 16, 2018)
Tschohl said he will be giving a presentation about the Commission at the
January 16th City Council workshop. He reviewed a draft of his
presentation, noting he will begin by sharing the charter goals of the
Commission and then cover the general accomplishments of the
Commission in 2017. He will review the specific goals for 2017 and then
explain the Commission's goals for 2018. He asked for any comments or
suggestions from the Commission members.
Barker suggested including a statement regarding the Commission's
involvement in the JAZB. Tschohl said he will add that to the list and
asked if the Commission members thought that should also be an on-going
item on the agenda. Barker thought there might be enough regarding the
JAZB for that to become a standing item.
Kiely suggested information on environmental impact could be a point to
include.
Agrawal asked about addressing resolution of the four households that
made up 65% of the noise complaints received. Tschohl asked if there was
any communication with the four households. Ms Lewis said they reached
out to those individuals and have made contact with two of them. The two
individuals they could not reach use the online system to file complaints,
which means their contact information is limited. They have sent letters to
those households for which they were able to obtain an address.
Tschohl continued his review of the draft presentation, noting he will
finish the report with a summary of operations for 2017 that includes
statistics such as total operations for the year, information about FBO fuel
flowage, the total noise complaints for 2017 versus 2016, and other
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information. He will include additional data and charts for reference in an
appendix to the document.
2. City of Eden Prairie Transportation Plan Update for FCM
Randy Newton, Assistant City Engineer, said Eden Prairie is in the
process of updating the long term Comprehensive Plan. Part of that
process includes an update of the City's Transportation Plan which
includes a section regarding FCM.
Craig Vaughn, SRF Consulting, gave a PowerPoint presentation of the
updates for the FCM section of the Transportation Plan. He said the
update maintains most of the transportation section of the 2008 plan, and
they are not encouraging expansion of the airport. The Transportation Plan
has a fundamental role in the City's vision for the future. The
Metropolitan Council has requirements for what must be included in the
plan. He reviewed the aviation section of the plan which included a
description of FCM, aviation goals and policies, land use compatibility,
aircraft noise zones, airspace and land use safety zones, security, and the
Flying Cloud Airport Advisory Commission (FCAAC).
Mr. Vaughn said there are no changes from the previous plan for the goals
and policies section. The section regarding land use compatibility was
updated for the most current conditions so the City's plans for land use are
compatible with the area around the airport. He said office use would
serve as an important land use buffer between the airport and residential
areas. In the aircraft noise zones section, they have identified where
compatibility issues may be present. With regard to airspace and land use
safety zones, the City and the MAC will resubmit the JAZB ordinance to
MnDOT for their approval. The JAZB ordinance will define safety zones
around the airport, and the Transportation Plan will be updated to include
the ordinance, if it is approved.
Tschohl asked how the building of incompatible structures around the
airport would be discouraged. Mr. Vaughn replied office space would be
used to provide a buffer in Safety Zone B.
Mr. Vaughn said the security section of the plan does not contain any
changes because the MAC developed and implemented a security guide
for FCM in 2004. He noted there were also no changes made to the
FCAAC section.
Mr. Vaughn said the draft plan update will be reviewed at a City Council
workshop on February 5. After the workshop, the draft plan document will
be completed, and the Transportation Plan will be incorporated into the
overall Comprehensive Plan. The Comprehensive Plan will then be
submitted to adjoining communities and to the Met Council for review.
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3. Semiannual MAC Noise Abatement Seminar (Springy 2018, date TBD)
Ms Lewis said they are looking for openings in April or May to hold the
spring Noise Abatement Seminar. The second seminar will be held in late
summer or early fall.
4. Review 2035 Flyins! Cloud LTCP Draft (2018, date TBD)
5. Expiring FCAAC Terms and Application Process
Tschohl said two Commission members have terms expiring this year. He
asked Mr. Barker and Mr. Schendel if they were planning to reapply for
the Commission. Both Mr. Barker and Mr. Schendel said they plan to
reapply.
a. Bob Barker: Vice Chair
b. Kurt Schendel: Business Representative
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
A. NEXT COMMISSION MEETING—April 12, 2018
MOTION: Agrawal moved, seconded by Dorson, to adjourn the meeting. Motion
carried 6-0. Chair Tschohl adjourned the meeting at 8:16 P.M.