HomeMy WebLinkAboutHeritage Preservation - 12/17/2018 APPROVED MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION
MONDAY, DECEMBER 17, 2018 7:00 P.M. CITY CENTER
8080 MITCHELL RD
HPC COMMISSION MEMBERS: Steve Olson-Chair; Tara Kalar-Vice Chair;
Pamela Spera; Valerie Ross; Paul Thorp;
Richard Smith; Shanti Shah
STUDENT COMMISSION MEMBERS: Joe Pesheck; Neha Bhupatiraju; Sydney
Lewis
COMMISSION STAFF: Lori Creamer, Staff Liaison
Kristin Harley, Recording Secretary
I. CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL
Chair Olson called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. Absent was commission member
Shah and student representative Bhupatiraju.
Guest Ann Higgins joined the meeting.
Student representative Lewis arrived at 7:19 p.m.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION: Ross moved, seconded by Spera to approve the agenda. Motion carried 6-0.
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
MOTION: Ross moved, seconded by Spera to approve the minutes of the meeting held
November 19, 2018. Motion carried 3-0 with 3 abstentions (Kalar, Smith, Thorp).
IV. NEW BUSINESS
V. OLD BUSINESS
A. FINALIZE 2019 WORK PLAN
Creamer announced Shah attended a subcommittee meeting of the Human Rights
and Diversity Commission to explore a potential partnership on People Fest, and
Creamer asked if this should be clarified on the Work Plan, in the first quarter,
and perhaps focus on the history of Indigenous people in Eden Prairie, either at
People Fest in August or in November as previously discussed. Kalar suggested
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holding an event on Native American history in November separate from People
Fest. Smith asked what the participation had been in reaching out to the Native
American community. Creamer replied the commission had not had an outreach
event to this community during her tenure,but this was driven by the discovery of
artifacts along Highway 62. Kalar replied her understanding was the intent was to
reach out to the Native American community in order to get context for a possible
event centered on general interest among Eden Prairie residents of Native
American history, to assess the commission's inventory list and to establish a
relationship. Discussion followed on providing a stronger historical focus on the
indigenous peoples in the area. Creamer asked if other commission members were
interested in working on People Fest with Shah, Ross stated the Historical Society
was also considering getting involved with People Fest. No other commissioners
expressed an interest.
Creamer added the money raised from selling signs would be used to restore the
Flying Red Horse. The full commission would not be responsible to raise funds
for this event; a committee would be formed and would make decisions moving
forward and report back to the commission. Thorp stated he had ideas for
pursuing local designation for the Ox Cart Road.
MOTION: Ross moved, seconded by Thorp to approve the amended Work Plan.
Motion carried 6-0.
B. COA —LION'S DEN AT CAMP EDENWOOD
Creamer stated she received an email from Connor McGrath and she sent him a
checklist of what the commission needed, including a sample in hand. Creamer
was waiting for the application to be completed.
VI. REPORTS OF COMMISSION AND STAFF
A. PRESENTATION ON RESEARCH FROM THE OTHERDAY FAMILY
Thorp presented a PowerPoint with photographs and a map which detailed his
research on the ownership of the Otherday family property. It was an 18-acre
parcel of land above the Minnesota River divided into two focus areas: The
Narrows and Indian Road. In 1871 the Otherday, a Native American family,
purchased the property. Minnie Otherday was born in 1877 on that site in a teepee
and lived there until at least 1932, then moved to Hopkins with her daughter. She
died in 1959. Thorp's focus was on the land. Siever Peterson now owns the
property.
Olson asked if Ox Cart Road/Indian Road was on the site in 1877 and Thorp
replied it was. Thorp stated the reason why it was called Indian Road was
unknown. The site was in danger of being washed away due to erosion from the
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changing riverbed. Thorp proposed updating the commission's inventory forms to
reflect this endangered resource.
Olson agreed the commission should work up a form for Thorp to fill in with his
information, which would then be submitted to the State Historic Preservation
Office (SHPO). Creamer and the other commissioners agreed.
B. STAFF UPDATES
Creamer stated she reached out to Adam Keating of the 106 Group for an update
on the cataloging of the artifacts, and some tribes requested an extended review
from the Army Corps of Engineers but it should be completed at the end of the
this month. Creamer would reconnect with him in January on the possibility of
exhibiting them in November, 2019.
Following up on Olson's question from the last meeting, Creamer stated Winter
Park was built in 1980;however, the age of a site was would not be the sole
consideration in telling its story. Smith asked if there was a private agreement
between the Wilfs and the new owners to maintain the Viking Ship and keep it in
Eden Prairie. Olson replied Lifetime had leased it and would turn it into a sports
facility, but the ship would remain.
Creamer stated she wanted suggestions for new meeting places in 2019. The
Hocokata Ti Cultural Center in Shakopee was a possibility but it had still not
opened. Creamer had signed up online for updates.
Creamer was charged with seeking new estimates for the restoration of the Flying
Red Horse. Kalar asked what had changed between the conversation at the City
Council workshop and now. Creamer replied where the sign would be displayed
was still a question, and there was a perceived sensitivity to not showing
favoritism or spending public monies on this. Creamer was to pursue a grant, if
applicable, and to solicit fundraising ideas from the commission members. Olson
replied he was not opposed to the project,but the profits from the sign sales being
directed toward this without much discussion seemed abrupt.
Kalar noted the restoration estimate exceeded the amount of money raised by the
street sign fundraiser,requiring the commission to raise that as well, and Creamer
agreed. Kalar stated her message to the City Manager was receiving a mandate
like this was disheartening and she questioned if this was the best use of the
funds. Spera agreed and added it was odd to restore the sign without a final
display location. She also asked if the question of trademark
infringement/ownership of property had been resolved. Discussion followed on
how the City of Eden Prairie acquired the sign. Kalar stated the question might
not be resolved until the sign is restored and displayed. Thorp passed around
images and stated he would prefer not to restore the sign,but to leave it in its
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present condition as a historical artifact. The sign was 90 year old and could be
displayed. Kalar suggested having a historic preservation specialist prepare a
study to resolve these issues before funds are used. Smith concurred. Discussion
followed on existing historic signs (Gold Medal Flour and Grain Belt Beer in
Minneapolis) that had been restored,but were on their existing sites.
Spera asked if the City had documentation on the transfer. Thorp stated the
Schwartz family that owned the Davannis passed it to the City, and there was
documentation in approved minutes but no deed or other paperwork.
Ross stated she did not want to see the Flying Red Horse project die but instead of
fundraising, the commission could put forth recommendations to 1) find an
optimal location, and 2)restore or not restore. Thorp replied this was the City's
sign but the commission could make recommendations. Creamer noted there was
a certain age group that was passionate about the sign, whereas other residents
might not understand its significance. Olson stated it would be preferable to have
a conversation instead of being handed a direction, and he preferred to work to
find the best methods to treat the artifact. Kalar replied this went to the heart of
the role of this commission. Thorp asked for more solid suggestions from the City
as to next steps. Ross suggested involving the consultant Bob Mack. Creamer
replied Mack's expertise may not be in the restoration,but could give input on
location perhaps. Thorp suggested consulting staff at SHPO to help with the
restoration piece. Olson stated Mack would be able to help locate display sites.
Thorp described the condition of the sign. Smith suggested an indoor display.
Higgins asked when the plastic was overlaid on the surface, and Thorp replied it
was in 1978. Holes were punched to affix it; this was merely to brighten the sign,
as it was cheaper than painting it. Ross urged the commissioners to keep the
project moving forward.
MOTION: Ross moved, seconded by Thorp to further amend the Work Plan to
advance concepts to restore the Flying Red Horse in the second, third, and fourth
quarter as appropriate in place of"fundraising"recommendation. Motion carried
6-0.
Ross announced the Sharing Tree lighting went very well with a small town feel,
and she expected the event to grow. Santa was in the Cummins Phipps House.
The Valentine event was coming up at the end of January and would involve
creating watercolor valentines.
VIII. FYI ITEMS
IX NEXT MEETING
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The next meeting will be held Tuesday, January 22, 2019, at 6:30 p.m. in Prairie Rooms
A & B. The City Council Workshop will be held at 5:00 p.m.
X. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Thorp moved, seconded by Ross to adjourn. Motion carried 6-0. The
meeting was adjourned at 8:23 p.m.