HomeMy WebLinkAboutHeritage Preservation - 02/12/2018 APPROVED MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION
MONDAY, FEBRUARY 12,2018 7:00 P.M. CITY CENTER
8080 MITCHELL RD
HPC COMMISSION MEMBERS: Steve Olson-Chair; Tara Kalar-Vice Chair;
Pamela Spera; Valerie Ross; Paul Thorp;
Meredith Anderson; Shanti Shah
STUDENT COMMISSION MEMBERS: Caleb Miller; Inika Shetty; Neha
Bhupatiraju; Alyssa Meiners
COMMISSION STAFF: Lori Creamer, Staff Liaison
Kristin Harley, Recording Secretary
I. CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL
Chair Olson called the meeting to order at 7:01 p.m. Absent was commission member
Anderson.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION: Shah moved, seconded by Ross to approve the agenda with the addition of
the Society of Architectural Historians annual conference as an FYI item (b)by Creamer.
Motion carried 5-0.
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
MOTION: Kalar moved, seconded by Thorp to approve the minutes. Motion carried 5-
0.
IV. REPORTS OF STUDENTS
Shetty and Miller announced the students had formed a group and agreed to meet
regarding the website research project. Each student spoke a bit about college choices.
V. OLD BUSINESS
A. STUDENT REPRESENTATIVES WEBSITE RESEARCH PROJECT
IV. REPORTS OF COMMISSION AND STAFF
A. TOWN OF HENNEPIN ARCHAEOLOGY PROJECT-Thorp
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Thorp stated he disagreed with the authors of the report on several points and had
communicated this with them. The authors had concluded there was no proof of
the existence of the Ox Cart Trail until 1870, whereas Thorp gave an origin in the
1840s. He read from an email detailing evidence the road was originally part of
the Yorkville-Bloomington Road a legislative state road begun in 1863 and
located near a natural spring, as was the Ox Cart Trail. Thorp maintained roads
usually evolved from animal trails, then foot trails, then cart and wagon trails, and
grew into interstate highways. Thorp stated he will receive their conclusions
though he and the commission members do not have to agree with them. The
commission could confirm and/or continue the research with the goal of including
the road in the National Register nomination. The consultants' preliminary
recommendation was to include the road but viewed everything else as
compromised, worth noting but not worth designating. The consultant did unearth
interesting information worth further research, especially regarding Peter Richie
who owned the land to the west of the site.
Creamer asked for next steps. Thorp replied the commission should talk to its
consultant about the National Register nomination. Olson noted the site was
protected now due to being on park land property. Thorp added the
recommendation was to clear the buckthorn and prickly ash around the site for
more visibility without causing erosion. Kalar asked if this would conflict with
their no trespassing stance, since the Parks and Recreation Department did not
post the land and were not willing to develop it to bring foot traffic there.
Discussion followed on the difference between opening up concealing foliage and
causing erosion. Thorp clarified the Parks and Recreation Department would
merely remove at ground level the shrubs and trees obscuring the trail, but not
tear out foliage. Olson spoke in favor of its nomination.
Kalar asked if an interpretive plan, i.e., to facilitate pedestrian traffic, would tip
the scales in favor of the nomination, and Olson replied he had never seen that
considered in a nomination. Spera asked for clarification the date disparity and
asked if it could harm the Ox Cart Trail. Thorp replied the bed of the road
commission in 1863 was built on top of the trail and the site would probably not
now show the cart wheel ruts.
Olson noted this site would be eligible for CLG grants, and once on the National
Register would become eligible for even more grants; there was no downside to
pursuing nomination. Thorp listed four sites that could be historically significant:
the approach to the ferry, two building sites, and the Ox Cart Trail. There was
some disagreement about the warehouse site being too eroded to yield historical
details and being on private property. He read from page 38 of the report:
"Examination of the suspected road leading to the former site of the ferry and
warehouse revealed significant impacts from development projects and erosion
such that remaining sections did not retain sufficient historical integrity." Thorp
reiterated this does not have to be the final word, and Olson expressed confidence
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in Thorp's judgment on the road. Thorp stated he was happy overall with the
work and would receive the final report soon.
Ross asked if the commission pursued grants for this project would that affect
other grants being pursued by the City? Olson replied archeology seems to have
very few grant requests submitted and there were few competitors for them. Kalar
replied different types of grants did not really compete. Thorp stated there was no
tremendous expense involved: no signs, low profile, clear some foliage. Creamer
agreed CLG grants are a different type of grant than Legacy grants and do not
compete. Thorp stated after receiving the final report, the commission should
meet with the Parks and Recreation Department, and Creamer agreed. Olson
asked for more feedback, and there was no disagreement to moving forward with
nominating the site.
B. DESIGN WORK FOR FINAL 6 SIGNS AT LAKE RILEY
Creamer announced the design work has begun. Spera and Ross will be reviewing
the designs as they are produced. The first design was completed.
VII. REPORTS OF HISTORICAL SOCIETY
A. ANNUAL MEETING—APRIL
Ross announced the Annual Meeting would be April 12 at 6:00 p.m. at the
Cummins Phipps Grill House. She encouraged all to attend and become members.
The speaker would be Adam Kaeding of the 106 Group who may also bring the
tray of artifacts from the Flying Cloud Drive road project discoveries. Thorp was
expected to join the board at this meeting.
B. GLEN LAKE CHILDREN'S CAMP EVENT—MAY 10
Ross summarized the upcoming event at Camp Edenwood with a talk by writer
Mary Krugerud and appetizers provided by the venue. A beer and wine bar would
be provided by the Lions' Club, and there would be a tour of the camp at 5:00
p.m. The Eden Prairie Community Foundation may give a donation. The goal was
to raise awareness of the site, not necessarily a fundraiser. Case had requested the
HPC become a partner and what they could contribute.
Discussion followed on a possible role for HPC in this event. Kalar suggested
creating a visual representation of the history of the site, since it has only one
interpretive sign, and supply the content to the Communications Department. One
idea would be a promotional poster for social media, and a second one would be
displayed on an easel at the event. Ross stated there were old photographs of the
site to use. Discussion followed on display ideas. Ross offered to take these ideas
back to the Historical Society's board meeting. Creamer agreed if the commission
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supplied the promotional flyer content it could be completed in time to advertise
the event in April, and the larger historical display could be completed later. Kalar
and Shah volunteered to put together both. Olson offered to provide photographs.
Ross offered to send details about Mary Krugerud the speaker to Kalar, Shah, and
Creamer.
C. OTHER HISTORICAL SOCIETY EVENTS
February 11 —Valentine Making Event
March 7 —Eden Prairie Foundation meeting
May 10-12 - Vintage Sale at Cummins Phipps Grill House (Thurs, Fri, Sat)
10:00 a.m.-5:00 p.m. on Thursday, May 10
10:00 a.m.-7:00 p.m. on Friday May 11
11:00 a.m.-4:00 p.m. on Saturday, May 12
June 7 —potluck, Historical Society, HPC, and city staff
Ross announced the cataloging project was ongoing.
Creamer stated the grant work for upstairs plans and specs is completed and
approved. The pre-application for a grant to complete the work is due in May with
the final application due in August. If successful, the work could begin in early
2019.
VIII. ONGOING TRAINING
A. CHAPTER 3: DESIGNATING PROPERTIES
Olson displayed Chapter three of the MN Heritage Commission online training
and explained the main points.
Designation is a zoning ordinance for a local agency, and includes description of
the significance, findings, boundaries, and other relevant evidence. Alterations to
the property's exterior are limited or forbidden. The Park Services puts together
the National Register form, and the Heritage Preservation Commission looks at it
and brings it to a hearing, then brings it to the Planning Commission, who refers it
to the City Council.
The commission's role is to review the nomination, hold informational meetings,
and make formal recommendations to the elected body (Planning Commission).
An inventory is a collection of data about the potential historic significance of
properties in the community. It does not bring with it any regulatory weight. It is a
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reference point in determining if any properties would merit consideration for
designation, an aid to develop educational materials, a resource for neighborhood
plans, and when evaluating development proposals.
Historic properties include buildings, historic districts, objects, a structure, and
sites. They include culture landscapes, traditional cultural property, maritime
sites, and archaeological resources.
IX. NEW BUSINESS
A. REVIEW NATIONAL REGISTER NOMINATION FOR SMITH
DOUGLAS MORE HOUSE
Creamer described the most recent changes to the nomination. Discussion
followed on the latest draft of the nomination.
Olson noted the hearing was next, and then the nomination would be submitted to
SHPO in July. Creamer replied the public hearing would be in March at the HPC
meeting, to the Planning Commission on April 9, then to the City Council in May,
review board in August, and completion by the end of the year. Discussion
followed on the processes and timeline.
B. PLANNING FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT OPPORTUNITIES
Creamer announced she received a training opportunity through the Society of
Architectural Historians Conference on Strategies for Visual and Oral
Documentation. The conference is April 18, 2018 from 1:00-5:00 p.m. at the state
capitol. There will be an optional tour of the capital at 11:00 a.m. with lunch on
own. This training would be beneficial for the preparation of the oral history
project the commission is interested in pursuing in 2018.
She also mentioned Lindsey Danhauser from the Parks and Recreation
Department has planned the movie nights for 2018, as was discussed at a joint
meeting with the Parks & Recreation Commission earlier in 2017. The dates for
the movies at Staring Lake Park are August 3, 10, 17 and suggested these as
opportunities, before each movie, to promote or actually show (depending on
length) the oral history videos. Creamer also suggested having a staging place to
conduct the interviews,perhaps in a public place such as the community center or
the mall to capture walk-ins.
Discussion followed on next steps for the project. Olson noted an August
presentation required advertising in April with submissions in July and
advertising in June, and therefore a project plan and prompt completed by the
March meeting. Kalar wrote up a quick timeline and solicited ideas from the
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students for promotion. Miller and Meiners suggested the student newspaper and
the Principal's announcements.
Spera suggested the possibility of soliciting self-made videos. Shah stressed the
importance of having more control over the video process to keep the focus and
minimize the need for editing. Kalar agreed with going out into the community to
solicit videos rather than depending on the public to send them in. Creamer agreed
to inform the Parks and Recreation staff the commission was interested in
participating in the film series in order to include this in the project plan. The
commission could also publicize this effort on Facebook, in the newspaper, on the
website, etc. A consent/contact information form could also be supplied. Ross
suggested interviewing people at the Senior Center. Creamer agreed. Olson
suggested soliciting interviews at the Miller's Spring site. Bhupatiraju stated she
would be willing to do some interview at The Colony, where she volunteers.
Kalar added the videos could resemble Snapchats and did not have to be polished
products. Spera suggested any students who were aspiring journalists could get
involved. Meiners offered to interview Eden Prairie fire fighters. Kalar suggested
forming a subcommittee. Shah and Spera volunteered to meet with Kalar on this
and bring the project plan and prompts back to the commission by the next HPC
meeting. Creamer reminded them to copy her on all emails and to request her
attendance if they needed it.
Creamer mentioned the publicity in Eden Prairie News on the artifacts display by
the 106 Group. The Human Rights and Diversity Commission (HRDC) would
like to collaborate with the Heritage Preservation Commission (HPC) on planning
a local history kick-off event for Native American Heritage Month in November.
Creamer is investigating the possibility of displaying some of the artifacts
recovered from the Flying Cloud Drive road project at a City owned building
during the month of November.
X. FYI ITEMS
A. SHPO ACCEPTING PROPOSALS FOR SPEAKER SESSION FOR 2018
ANNUAL CONFERENCE
Creamer announced SHPO was seeking proposals for speakers and topics for the
2018 annual conference. If commission members had any suggestions or ideas
they could contact her. The conference will be September 12-14, 2018 in Winona,
MN.
B. SOCIETY OF ARCHITECTURAL HISTORIANS CONFERENCE
The Society of Architectural Historians will hold its annual conference April 18,
2018 and Creamer invited commission members to contact her if they were
interested in the 1/2-day training on Visual and Oral Documentation.
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XI. NEXT MEETING
A. PUBLIC HEARING FOR NATIONAL REGISTER NOMINATION SMITH
DOUGLAS MORE HOUSE
The next meeting will be held Monday, March 19, 2018, at 7:00 p.m. in Prairie
Rooms A & B.
XII. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Shah moved, seconded by Kalar to adjourn. Motion carried 5-0. The
meeting was adjourned at 8:45 p.m.