HomeMy WebLinkAboutHeritage Preservation - 08/20/2018 APPROVED MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION
MONDAY,AUGUST 20, 2018 7:00 P.M. CITY CENTER
8080 MITCHELL RD
HPC COMMISSION MEMBERS: Steve Olson-Chair; Tara Kalar-Vice Chair;
Pamela Spera; Valerie Ross; Paul Thorp;
Richard Smith; Shanti Shah
COMMISSION STAFF: Lori Creamer, Staff Liaison
Kristin Harley, Recording Secretary
I. CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL
Chair Olson called the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m. Absent was commission member
Kalar.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION: Shah moved, seconded by Ross to approve the agenda. Motion carried 6-0.
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
MOTION: Thorp moved, seconded by Shah to approve the minutes. Motion carried 6-
0.
IV. NEW BUSINESS
A. COA—CAMP EDENWOOD
Creamer explained staff from Camp Edenwood contacted her to say they wanted
to move forward on the Birch Hall dining hall fireplace and chimney restoration
and sent her the COA application. The recommendations from MacDonald and
Mack were attached in the commission members' packets. Creamer directed
Camp Edenwood staff to the MNHS website for contractor contact information.
She asked for commission members' comments.
Thorp observed the fireplace was pulling away from the building. Discussion
followed on the chimney's condition as indicated by the photographs. Olson
asked if painting would be included, and Creamer replied the focus would be the
chimney. Discussion followed on the specific proposals in the assessment. Smith
suggested the Lions Club could donate money, and Creamer suggested the Camp
Edenwood staff might be pursuing grant monies as well. This would be
considered "minor work" in the City code. Ross asked if there would be
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recommendations needed from the commission for the brick, and Smith replied
there would be best practices to match it. Discussion followed on the wording in
the COA. Olson stated he saw no red flags and agreed it was minor, maintenance
work, so he suggested encouraging Camp Edenwood staff to continue with
MacDonald & Mack's recommendations. Smith asked if a motion was needed by
the commission, and Creamer replied it was not necessary. Olson asked if Paul
Sticha could do a site visit, and Creamer replied staff had recommended Sticha or
Kevin Schmieg as well. Olson suggested the response from the commission be
that city staff review the project prior to completion and provide staff with the
contractor(s) selected for the brick and the glass work.
B. FLYING RED HORSE RESTORATION
Thorp sent around some photocopied articles and stated restoration discussions
were underway, and he had researched the history of the sign. He was unable to
find documentation in City Council minutes of the sign being designated as a
historic landmark,but this was reported in various news articles. The sign, dated
from 1933, was at present in the Parks and Recreation Department's facility,
having been donated by Jesse Schwartz, Jr and family. Round Lake Park was
suggested as a possible site for the restored flying red horse, since Jesse Schwartz
Sr., the father of Mr. Schwartz, was a locally-known baseball player and had
played at the site.
Creamer asked if the commission members had any objection to using the
commission's sign proceeds to help pay for this restoration. It was considered a
valuable piece of history, which had great meaning to many people. The 2014
estimate for restoration was $41,800.00 not including the 100 AMP service. This
restoration would obviously be expensive, though the City was committed to the
project. Creamer asked for suggestions on additional fundraising ideas for this
project. Thorp stated Kathie Case seemed confident donors could be found. The
City could apply for a grant from the Eden Prairie Foundation. Olson stated it
would be preferable to find the actual paperwork of the designation. Creamer
replied she was able to search some minutes electronically,but could only locate a
resolution for the donation. Thorp displayed a headline with"landmark" in quotes
in the title, and Smith noted this could be a figure of speech rather than a formal
landmark. Thorp replied some articles explicitly stated the sign was designated a
landmark. Discussion followed on the content of the photocopied articles.
Ross stated using the commission's sign money would be appropriate for this
project. The Historical Society could also have a part in this for its 50th
anniversary. Smith replied he would think someone inside Exxon-Mobile was in
charge of artifacts and could also contribute. Shah suggested there was also Go
Fund Me as a fundraising possibility. Thorp volunteered to look into contacting
Exxon-Mobile. The corporation spent a great deal of money restoring the sign on
its headquarters. Olson stated there needed a story to go with the sign's being
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displayed at the park. Creamer stated she had reviewed the State grants to see if
there was an appropriate category in which to apply for funds for restoration,
however did not see an appropriate category for this project. None of the
commission members disagreed with using the sign proceeds to help pay for the
restoration of the sign.
Thorp stated another possibility was leaving the sign unrestored,but this was a
reinforced sheet metal sign mounted on wood, which was rotting. Ross asked if
there was any Mobile station in Eden Prairie, and Thorp and Creamer replied
there was not. Thorp stated there was one in Edina. Ross asked if other gas
stations would object to this apparent promotion of Mobile by Eden Prairie.
Discussion followed on this possibility. Ross replied she was enthusiastic about
the project but wanted to cover all bases in advance. Olson asked if it was Thorp's
concept the sign needed to be on park property, and Thorp agreed. The City had
already built a"Welcome to Eden Prairie" sign so the Flying Horse sign was not
an entry sign. There had also been the suggestion of locating it at the light rail
station,but it might not be as visible there. Shah noted public art on light rail
stations in Minneapolis required a lot of restoration due to vandalism. Discussion
followed on the nostalgic nature of the sign, apart from its corporate name.
Creamer suggested the commission could suggest location sites,but the decision
was ultimately up to the City. Ross stated the Historical Society could meet on
this project. Thorp suggested since the next HPC meeting was after the Historic
Society's meeting, he and Ross could report back then. Thorp passed around the
photograph of the original location of the sign and gas station.
V. OLD BUSINESS
A. ANNUAL HERITAGE PRESERVATION CONFERENCE
Creamer announced she and Shah would be attending the annual conference in
Winona, Minnesota on September 12-14. The conference will be prior to the next
HPC meeting, so both could report on the particular sessions attended.
B. CITY WIDE OPEN HOUSE AND FALL HARVEST—OCTOBER 6, 2018
Creamer stated both events were being held on the same day; the Open House
would be held 11:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. at City Hall, and the Fall Harvest from 2:00
p.m. to 5:00 p.m. at the Riley Barn. The commission members could use iPads to
sell signs. Creamer took a list of volunteers for both events. Shah suggested
asking the new student members to help with both events, and Creamer agreed.
Discussion followed on possible games the commission could sponsor. Thorp
suggested the commission could simply attend this year and come up with ideas
for next year. Ross stated her priority was to have people stop by and see the
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Dorenkemper House, and she urged the commission members to stop by and visit
as well.
C. NATIVE AMERICAN HERITAGE MONTH—NOVEMBER
This discussion item was tabled until Creamer could get more information from
the 106 Group.
D. YORKVILLE AND BLOOMINGTON ROAD —NEXT STEPS
Creamer spoke with the City Manager regarding next steps for the City on a
possible designation of the Yorkville and Bloomington Road findings. The City
Manager suggested the commission members attend the City Council Workshop
on the historic properties inventory on September 18, 2018 (dinner at 5:00 p.m.,
workshop at 5:30 p.m.). This would be one of the topics for discussion with the
council members on how to move forward.
Creamer spoke with two folks from SHPO to clarify if a National Register listing
could be for the part of the road on City property. It was clear; the listing would
need to include the entire boundary (public and private properties). If 51 percent
of landowners objected the commission could not move forward with the national
listing, but the property would remain eligible. If in the future some property
owners changed their minds, the designation could move forward,but the
property had to be designated as a whole; it could not be designated in parcels.
The property had already been determined to be eligible by Two Pines Resource
Group. Thorp suggested the property could be locally designated instead of going
immediately for the national designation;he suggested informing the City
Council, and Creamer agreed.
Thorp offered to give a presentation at the September 18 workshop. Olson, Spera,
Smith, Ross and Shah offered to attend as well.
VI. REPORTS OF COMMISSION AND STAFF
A. HUMANS ON EDEN PRAIRIE VIDEO CLIP FEEDBACK
Olson described seeing the clip the previous Friday (the screening of"Coco" on
August 10 had been rained out). He stated the video could have used an
introduction instead of being shown abruptly after the county-western band,but
the video was well received by the audience. Smith asked if the clips would be on
the website. Creamer asked for commission members' thoughts. Olson suggested
a follow-up with any participants who may not have understood the video would
be on the website in addition to the screenings; a lot of work had gone into this
project and it would be a shame not to highlight it more. Shah replied she had no
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concerns from anyone she had signed up for the videos. Spera asked for and
received clarification the first small group (of three or four people) was the only
group to be asked to sign to give permission for the video screening and not
subsequent uses. Spera stated following up with these people would solve the
issue; contacting anyone else would be merely a courtesy. Discussion followed on
possible ways to notify participants on the clips being on the website.
Olson suggested showing these clips at the workshop on September 18. Creamer
stated this would be more appropriately shared in the annual report.
B. STONE MONUMENT UPDATE AT CAMP EDENWOOD
Thorp stated and Creamer had made the proposal to SHPO, which gave
permission to use the materials. Thorp had the materials and would complete the
work himself when the weather was cooler.
C. ASPIRE 2040 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN UPDATE
Creamer stated she had sent the commission members the link to the Aspire 2040
document, and to the specific chapters touching on HPC issues. She urged
commission members to send her any comments this week. Planning Commission
and City Council will hold public hearings on the plan in September/October.
VII. REPORTS OF HISTORICAL SOCIETY
Ross reported the Cummins House would have a tree lighting ceremony during Santa's
appointments. Santa would be present, and non-profits or religious organizations could
contribute their own ornaments to the tree,but this event would be open to the public.
The Historical Society was still ironing out the details and a date.
VIII. FYI ITEMS
IX NEXT MEETING
The next meeting will be held Monday, September 17, 2018, at 7:00 p.m. in Prairie
Rooms A & B.
X. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Shah moved, seconded by Ross to adjourn. Motion carried 6-0. The meeting
was adjourned at 9:05 p.m.