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EDEN PRAIRIE HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION
MONDAY, DECEMBER 19, 2016 7:00 P.M. MEETING CITY CENTER
8080 MITCHELL ROAD
HPC COMMISSION MEMBERS: Steve Olson-Chair; Tara Kalar-
-Vice Chair; Cindy Cofer-Evert; Pamela
Spera; Valerie Ross; Paul Thorp; Ed
Muhlberg
COMMISSION STAFF: Lori Creamer, Staff Liaison
Robert Vogel, Pathfinder CRM, LLC
Kristin Harley, Recording Secretary
STUDENT REPRESENTATIVES: Sienna Gambino, Alyssa Meiners, Carolyn
Mason, Taylor Wolf
I. CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL
Chair Olson called the meeting to order at 7:02 p.m. Commissioner Muhlberg, staff
member Vogel and student representative Meiners were absent.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Ross moved, and Cofer-Evert seconded to approve the agenda with Kalar's additions of
New Business: Item A. Cummins-Phipps-Grill House Santa Visit and Item B. Rustica.
Motion carried.
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. COMMISSION MEETING HELD NOVEMBER 21, 2016
Thorp moved, and Kalar seconded, to approve the minutes with Ross's changes.
Motion carried.
IV. STUDENT UPDATES
A. ANYTHING YOU WANT TO SHARE WITH THE GROUP
Wolf announced that she had started new school.
V. OLD BUSINESS
A. 2017 WORKPLAN - FINALIZE
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Creamer announced that the Eden Prairie Fire Department would be celebrating
its 50th year in 2017. Various activities will be going on throughout the year, and
she will reach out to the Fire Chief to discuss how the commission can help with
an event during the year. Spera asked if there was a historical component that
would be a tie-in with the commission's work. Cofer-Evert replied the Fire
Department buildings, if original, or any notorious fires or controlled burns along
Pioneer Trail, etc., could be possibilities.
Discussion followed on a highlighted event from the plan, the history hunt. Cofer-
Evert suggested that the commission hold its history hunt during May, which is
Preservation Month. Kalar replied and Cofer-Evert concurred that the hunt could
continue all summer, but be kicked off in May. Discussion followed on the
possibility of including a geocaching component to the event and the legal
concerns related to it. Creamer stated there are some rules on geocaching in the
parks and she would clarify at the next meeting which locations would be
acceptable to use. Kalar noted that there was non-city sanctioned geocaching in
the parks going on at present, and that it likely made a difference when a
commission actually sponsored one. Cofer-Evert mentioned that geo-caching had
been discouraged previously by the HPC outside consultant, based on his
understanding of the City's rules on geo-caching.
The commission approved the 2017 HPC Work Plan with these changes and
comments:
1st Quarter:
Architect's review of the Glen Lake Children's Camp (evaluation of the dining
hall) was moved to the 2nd quarter.
The grant for an archeology study on Murphy's Ferry was deleted. However, the
commission would consider this grant project later.
The action for the National Register Nomination of Smith Douglas More house
was changed from "complete" to"submit."
Creamer announced that the Cummins-Phipps-Grill House grant was awarded.
2nd Quarter:
Ross asked for a clarification of the local designation project with the School
District, and Olson explained that the goal was to protect the original consolidated
school building with the historic gym from an Eden Prairie planning change.
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3rd Quarter:
The review for potential repeating history hunt in October was moved to the 1st
quarter for a possible event in May. Discussion followed on the success of the
previous hunt. Creamer announced that 150 people participated.
Creamer explained that the request for design and production of Lake Riley
interpretive signs was listed in the third quarter due to the necessity of writing a
grant. If the grant was awarded, the RFP for the signs would be developed in July,
2017.
The commission agreed to have an outline for the inventory in the 2nd quarter,
then provide the summary document in the 0 quarter, with input from the
commission members and planning staff, including GIS staff.
4th Quarter:
The joint meeting with Eden Prairie Historical Society was moved to the 3rd
quarter, with the date to be specified later, once the date for the annual meeting
was set.
OnsoinWadministrative items:
Creamer offered to find out a sunset date for the old street sign fundraiser project.
Olson noted that there was a Minnesota statute to have them updated by 2018.
Discussion followed on the timeline of the project. Creamer announced the
successful results of the promotion in Southwest Metro Magazine and post to the
City's Facebook page between Thanksgiving and the date of this meeting.
Continue Murphy's Ferry research (commission /staff) was tentatively moved to
the next step (local designation) and set for the 2nd quarter. Discussion followed
on the necessity of a consultant for the designation process. Olson proposed that
the commission ask David Mather, from the MN Historical Society, if Murphy's
Ferry rose to the level of designation.
New Ideas for 2017 (from November meeting):
Partner with the Human Rights and Diversity Commission on an Oral History
Project for immigrant populations in our community to be transcribed or captured
in video.
Ross described her involvement with the oral history project with the Historical
Society, a major undertaking requiring time, equipment, and training, and which
is focused on the generation that lived through World War IL She agreed that this
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was a significantly different project from what the HRDC commission
envisioned. Creamer noted that the HRDC was focusing on capturing the oral
history of people on the streets in Eden Prairie, similar to the "Humans of
Minneapolis" project conducted previously. Discussion followed on funding
sources. Ross was also concerned that this project would end up being
underutilized without adequate promotion and access. Creamer suggested it may
be in the best interest to have any HPC members who are interested in partnering
on a project such as this patriciate on a subcommittee with the HRDC instead of a
separate HPC work plan item for 2017. Kalar and Spera offered to participate on a
subcommittee with the HRDC on an oral history project. This item was deleted
from the HPC work plan.
The Eden Prairie Time Capsule idea was deleted.
The school education opportunities for the historic sites were moved to the 2nd
quarter.
Laser scan one of a city owned historic property was moved to the 2nd quarter.
Olson volunteered to give a presentation on how this use of survey equipment and
put together a three-dimensional model of a historic property for future projects.
Creamer suggested Commission training be added to the ongoing/administrative
section. Training will occur periodically throughout the year.
VI. REPORTS OF COMMISSION AND STAFF
A. GRANT PROJECT (RESEARCH & WRITING FOR 7 ADDITIONAL
SIGNS AT LAKE RILEY) COMMISSION COMMENTS
Creamer and Olson noted that research and writing had been done for seven signs,
however, only 6 of the signs will be produced. Creamer stated that she would be
writing a grant for the graphic design and fabrication in 2017. She asked for the
commission's feedback, and offered to print out the designs for those who still
wanted to see the drafts. Spera replied that she would get her comments and edits
to Creamer. No other commission members provided comments.
B. SMITH DOUGLAS MORE HOUSE PROJECT UPDATE—Creamer
Creamer stated the roof project was completed prior to the snow and it looks
beautiful. She had submitted the final report for the grant in the last week.
C. HISTORY HUNT UPDATE —Creamer
Creamer stated there had been 150 redemptions at the Rustica Bakery and Cafe.
The Schusters, owners of the coffee shop, were delighted at the outcome.
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D. STREET SIGN FUNDRAISER UPDATE - Creamer
Creamer mentioned the fundraiser was publicized in Southwest Metro Magazine
and was posted on the City of Eden Prairie's Facebook page. Additional signs will
be coming available in the near future.
Creamer added the Communications Department provided data on the website
data. As of December 6 there had been 885 visits to the site, 1,142 unique visitors
to the site, 739 clicks on sign lists, and 742 clicks on the portal.
E. OTHER GRANT UPDATES - Creamer
Creamer announced that the grant was awarded for the Cummins-Phipps-Grill
House totaling just under $10,000. Olson added that the commission would
pursue two other grants in the future to complete the work in the upstairs of the
house.
VII. NEW BUSINESS
A. CUMMINS-PHIPPS-GRILL HOUSE SANTA VISIT
Kalar stated that as a result of an attempted visit to Santa with her children she
objected to the required reservation system and the mandatory admission fee
($20.00), and the paid photo packages (beginning at$24, toward which the
reservation fee was applied) at the Cummins-Phipps-Grill House, which Kalar felt
was inappropriate for any of their historic sites. It was not an option to pay, as at
the Eden Prairie Mall. Ross replied to the comments as she was most familiar
with this program. She would speak to the person portraying Santa and also bring
this matter up with the Historical Society. At first"Santa" didn't have any
intention to have a set fee. No pictures were allowed at first. Ross stated that it
was acceptable to charge for photos,but a visit to Santa should not require an
admission fee.
Kalar asked if the commission should pass a resolution against having a profit
motive in admissions, though she could understand his recouping costs and
charging for photography. She also wanted to know how the money earned was
being used. Ross replied that"Santa" paid the Eden Prairie Historical Society rent
and had a right to make money on pictures. "Santa"had the best motives and truly
loved children and portraying Santa, having been the Eden Prairie Mall Santa for
many years.
Ross added that it was "Santa" and David Lindahl who had thought of moving
this event to the Cummins-Phipps-Grill House, instead of the mall, to create a
more personalized experience for the children. There was no charge then. The
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proceeds of the rent that"Santa"pays go back to the Cummins-Phipps-Grill
House; however, the fees for the photography did not. The program is popular and
gives the house exposure, and the public will get to see the new timeline in the
dining room. Ross stated she would definitely press for a change in 2017. She
added that she could understand how a reservation system controlled crowds
versus "down times," and it was also undesirable to have people wait for a long
time.
Olson noted that the city's agreement with the Historical Society was through a
Conditional Use Permit. Ross replied Historical Society also leases the house for
a nominal fee. Discussion followed on reviewing the covenants and restrictions on
this. Kalar asked if charging admission violated the Conditional Use Permit, and
if not, could the Conditional Use Permit be amended to prohibit such a charge.
Ross suggested proposing to "Santa" that the public be allowed to visit"Santa"
without having to pay, and without reservations—for example, from
Thanksgiving weekend to December 15—but that after December 15 some sort of
crowd control/reservation system was desirable, and she would think about how
to accomplish this during what is for"Santa" his busiest and most lucrative time
of year. She promised to take this up immediately with the Historical Society and
with "Santa".
Cofer-Evert also proposed that from 9:00-10:00 a.m. on Saturday mornings could
be a free hour with visitors to "Santa" on a first come first serve basis, then at
10:00 reservations could begin. Without some kind of profit motive, "Santa"
would not have an incentive to work at the Cummins-Phipps-Grill House instead
of at a mall.
Ross added that this was a good program for the community; "Santa"has
insurance, is involved with Toys for Tots, works with the Optimists, allows free
pictures for veterans, fire fighters, and police, offers special nights for children
with autism and those with pets, etc., with the best of intentions. Olson, Ross, and
Creamer agreed that the commission should deal with this by starting a
conversation,rather than passing resolutions or amending the Conditional Use
Permit.
B. RUSTICA
Kalar stated that her mother is a health inspector at Hennepin County and had
observed that the staff at Rustica was cooking meals on a Panini grill without an
appropriate hood, and that both she and Kalar were concerned about possible
damage to the property. Kalar stated that her intention was to raise this issue
proactively with the commission. Discussion followed on the proper procedure
for the commission to follow up on this, considering this was not a"formal"
notification.
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Spera asked if Rustica staff have been ordered to stop cooking, and Kalar replied
that they were prohibited from some cooking due to the lack of a hood, to prevent
further damage from oils. Cofer-Evert added that a member of the public had
notified her that the interior historical photos had been taken down. Kalar replied
that the interior had been remodeled, with a false ceiling and modern lights.
Cofer-Evert asked if Rustica staff were allowed to do this on their own. Ross
stated that it had probably been cleared through the Historical Society.
Kalar asked if the commission could require Rustica to install the hood in the new
kitchen. Discussion followed on the previous restaurant's process. Olson stated
that he was less concerned about the photographs being removed, and more
concerned about keeping Rustica in business. Ross replied that she was concerned
about what had actually happened to pictures; the removal of them was acceptable
if it was to protect them. Olson suggested that considering the restaurant had just
opened; the commission could wait a few weeks until the end of the holidays, and
then reach out to Rustica to bring up the issue of the hood and the photographs.
VIII. FYI ITEMS
A. ACTION ITEM: DECIDE ON NEW JANUARY AND FEBRUARY HPC
MEETING DATES
The Consensus of the Commission was to meet on Monday, January 23, 2017 and
Monday, February 27, 2017.
Creamer invited the Commission members to the City Council Workshop on
Tuesday, January 17, 2017, at 5:30 p.m., Heritage Rooms, lower level of City
Center. Please RSVP to Creamer if you will be attending the meal starting at 5:00
pm.
IX. NEXT MEETING
The next HPC Commission meeting will be held on Monday, January 23, 2017 at 7:00
p.m., in Prairie Rooms A & B.
X. ADJOURNMENT
Ross moved, and Cofer-Evert seconded to adjourn the meeting. Motion carried. The
meeting was adjourned at 9:01 p.m.