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EDEN PRAIRIE HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION
MONDAY, FEBRUARY 27, 2017 7:00 P.M. MEETING CITY CENTER
8080 MITCHELL ROAD
HPC COMMISSION MEMBERS: Steve Olson-Chair; Tara Kalar-
-Vice Chair; Cindy Cofer-Evert; Pamela
Spera; Valerie Ross; Paul Thorp; Ed
Muhlberg
COMMISSION STAFF: Lori Creamer, Staff Liaison
Kristin Harley, Recording Secretary
STUDENT REPRESENTATIVES: Sienna Gambino, Alyssa Meiners, Carolyn
Mason, Taylor Wolf
I. ROLL CALL
Chair Olson called the meeting to order at 7:04 p.m. Commission Members Cofer-Evert
and Muhlberg along with student representatives Gambino, Meiners, and Wolf were
absent. Norm Rogers, a resident and Historical Society member,joined the meeting.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION: Ross moved, seconded by Thorp to approve the agenda with the additions of
Creamer's reports on the Smith Douglas Moore House and on History Day at the Capitol,
and of Olson's short presentation on the laser scanning of Seppmann Mill. Motion
carried 5-0.
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. COMMISSION MEETING HELD JANUARY 23, 2017
MOTION: Spera moved, seconded by Ross, to approve the minutes. Motion
carried 5-0.
IV. STUDENT UPDATES
Student member Mason stated due to Spring Break she would not be present at the March
20, 2017 commission meeting.
V. OLD BUSINESS
A. HERITAGE PRESERVATION AWARD NOMINATIONS
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Ross asked if the 2016 nominations were still available as a reference for a 2017
nomination. Creamer replied it was completed online, and offered to search the
files of March or April, 2016, as the nominations may have been emailed to the
commission members. Discussion followed on the status of the nominations thus
far.
Olson explained for the benefit of Rogers, 2017 was the third year for the awards,
with being May was Preservation Month. Marie Wittenberg won the first award in
2015, and in 2016 Steven Schussler won for his renovation of the Goodrich-
Ramus barn. Creamer stated the announcement was on the website, and
encouraged all to spread the word and nominate anyone except a current
commission member.
VI. REPORTS OF COMMISSION AND STAFF
A. HENNEPIN TOWN SITE GRANT UPDATE
Creamer reported Thorp worked with her on the Legacy grant for the archeology
project. Creamer had attended the grant open house (the first Thursday of every
month) and spoke with Minnesota Historical Society archeologist Dave Mathers
regarding the grant. Mathers advised Creamer to write an RFP for the project,
then use the RFP as a budget guideline for the grant application, reversing
Creamer's earlier process of estimating project costs up front. This would allow
the RFP criteria to drive the grant application process instead of Creamer first
needing an estimate.
Thorp asked if there was a maximum grant amount, and Creamer replied a grant
award of less than $10,000 was considered a "small" grant, whereas over $10,000
an annual pre-application was required. Mathers believed the commission's
archeology work could be completed for less than $10,000. When the grant was
awarded, one of the RFP recipients could then be chosen to start the work.
Creamer was therefore waiting for some bid numbers, then could put together a
budget, and submit the grant application by the April 23, 2017 deadline.
Creamer had specifically chosen three firms specializing in archeology, some also
recommended by Mathers.
B. NEW HPC CONSULTANT UPDATE
Creamer reiterated since Robert Vogel from CRM/Pathfinder discontinued the
contract with the City of Eden Prairie, City staff looked at other options and
signed a contract with the company MacDonald and Mack on a retainer for HPC-
related projects. Having a consultant on a retainer was a departure from previous
procedures. MacDonald and Mack met the Secretary of the Interior's Standards.
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Discussion followed on the knowledge and good track record of this consultant.
Creamer stated while MacDonald and Mack would not attend regular commission
meetings, the firm consisting of about a dozen people could meet the commission.
Kalar agreed this would be a good opportunity to build a relationship.
Creamer added this arrangement made it possible for other firms to bid on
projects as well, while allowing the commission to keep one firm on retainer
without it having an exclusive agreement. The City of Eden Prairie had its own
contract with MacDonald and Mack. Olson agreed this was a beneficial and
flexible arrangement.
Creamer agreed to place a courtesy meeting between this firm and the
commission on the next agenda. Olson asked if Robert Vogel had supplied the
final documents on the Smith Douglas Moore House before his firm's departure,
and Creamer replied she had indeed received the paperwork.
C. STARING LAKE OUTDOOR CENTER MASTER PLAN-PARKS
Creamer handed out copies of the Master Plan diagram and explained it would
improve the trails and increase the off-hours capacity for visitors to Staring Lake.
The plan was to repair trails, especially the water access platform and the back
trails, create additional seating, and add some educational/interpretive as well as
wayfinding signage. Kalar asked if cedar chips could be added to the nature trail
due to the wet and muddy paths, especially leading to Wildlife Photography
Blind. Creamer replied the plan mentioned "paved trails or nature trails" but did
not mention specific materials. The back trails (not circling the lake) appeared to
be "nature trails." This document was part of the Parks Work Plan.
Olson noted the commission would be concerned about any additions made near
the Outdoor Center, which is historic. Creamer replied according to the plan only
interpretive signage was planned for outside of the Center.
D SMITH DOUGLAS MOORE HOUSE REPAIRS
Creamer stated Paul Sticha, Facilities Manager, approached her with news the
renters of the house needed routine maintenance such as painting. However, the
fence and gate also needed repair, as the gate did not function and the posts were
rotted, and the fence itself was sinking. Creamer passed out photographs taken by
Sticha. The proposal was to use other, more durable materials such as treated
wood for the repair.
Thorp asked about the origin of the fence, and Creamer replied it was added with
the addition of the restaurant. Kalar asked if the area needed to be fenced since it
was not an original feature, and Creamer replied to her knowledge since the
restaurant served alcohol, the outdoor patio would require a fence. The fence only
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enclosed the restaurant's patio. Thorp noted treated wood would last, and the gate
probably needed to be braced.
Spera asked if, since the fence was not historic, the commission had any say in the
issue. Olson noted there should be a Smith Douglas Moore Best Practices
document, as he remembered consulting one in earlier years. Spera asked if the
fence would have had to have been approved by commission when it was built
and if so, could staff find out what conditions might have been placed on it at that
time. Olson replied Bob Mack might know, since the fence came in while
MacDonald and Mack did its work.
Creamer added the historic 100-year-old grape vine on the trellis was encroaching
on the tables and needed to be pruned, and passed out photographs of the vine.
Kalar asked if the Minnesota Arboretum could inspect the vine, and Creamer
replied she had suggested having a specialist look at it. Olson displayed an online
Arboretum document on growing and pruning grapes in a northern climate.
Discussion followed on pruning the mother vine. Kalar noted pruning will not get
to the issues of the curvature which causes the encroachment. Ross stated the
commission should ensure an expert consults with the city as to how the vine
should be pruned.
Regarding the fence, Kalar suggested if the fence is not mentioned in the Best
Practices manual, alternative materials and treatments could be used, and Ross
agreed.
VII. REPORTS OF HISTORICAL SOCIETY
The date for the joint meeting of the HPC commission and the Historical Society was set
for June 19, 2017 at 6:30 p.m. at the Cummins House.
General updates: Ross announced after several meetings a committee had been formed to
catalog the holdings at the Cummins Grill House. Norm Rogers was a member of the
committee, and Commission Member Thorp may join. The effort involved photographing
and physically tagging items with the donor's name using a pre-existing document, and
later entering the data into Past Perfect as a permanent record. She invited others
interested in the effort to join.
The Society's Valentine's Day event was successful, with 40 people in attendance and 5
tours, including a Boy Scout Troop. The Society hoped to repeat the event next year.
The Society's next event was the Cummins House Vintage Sale set for April 27-29,
2017: 4:00-8:00 p.m. on the 27th, and 10:00 a.m.-4:00 p.m. on the 28th and 29t'. There
would be several vendors, including the Prop shop, the Farmhouse Girls, a watercolor
artist, Kelly Reagan's antique jewelry and vintage clothing, a baker providing cupcakes,
and the City's food truck. This was a highly attended event each year.
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In addition, some graduation parties, a groom's dinner, and a few tours had been booked
for the house. Discussion followed on the completion of the upstairs electrical, and Ross
stated the electrical, Wi-Fi, and insulation had been completed.
VIII. NEW BUSINESS
A. HUELER PROPERTY DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL
LOCATION: 12300 RIVERVIEW RD
Creamer displayed a topographical map and explained the Planning Department
received an application for this property, near where the commission had toured at
a previous meeting in 2016. The proposed development would split one parcel
into three lots for houses to be built. Discussion followed on the relation of the
proposed development to the commission's fact-finding tour. Kalar asked if there
was a question about possible Indian Burial Mounds on the development site, and
Creamer and Olson agreed.
Creamer explained whenever a development proposal was received by the
Planning Department, the planners would consult a map which showed locations
earmarked as historic or an archeological site, and also solicit feedback from
watershed district staff. The proposal was still in the preliminary stages and had
not yet been brought to a public hearing. She asked the commission for its
reactions. There was a question as to whether or not the Blacksmith Shop was
actually on City property. Kalar suggested a survey would determine this. Thorp
stated he had worked on this property over the last 20 years, and was working for
the Huelers up until a year ago. The current development was much less dense
than what had been originally proposed.
Creamer pointed out on the map where the two custom homes were to be built,
and explained the narrative she provided describes the proposed work. There
would not be much dirt moved around, and the house built in 1917 would remain.
Thorp stated the site has changed over the last 150 years. He doubted there were
in fact Indian Mounds,but the specialists would determine this. His concern was
the creation of a drainage retention pond in the southwest area which would spill
over into the storm sewer system, which could disturb the Blacksmith Shop site.
The commission proposed the possibility of creating a "safe zone" until it could
assess this impact. Creamer agreed.
Discussion followed on the locations of the existing features and of the proposed
development details. Ross asked who owned the area surrounding the Blacksmith
Shop, and Thorp replied it was a publicly dedicated right of way owned by the
city. Discussion followed on how the Heulers' sale of the property would be
affected by the Blacksmith Shop, and potential impacts on the shop by the
development. Olson clarified the timeline had the grant application being
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submitted in April, Creamer would hear back a month later, and therefore the
earliest archeology project would be in September or October. He asked if the
Heulers' timeframe was known, and Thorp replied he did not have the
information. Creamer replied the Heulers' wished to move forward, however the
application had not been deemed complete and questions still remain regarding
the stability of the bank of the Mississippi River immediate upstream of the
property. The watershed would suggest the city create a permanent or temporary
easement to stabilize the riverbank.
Creamer added the watershed districts consultant looked at this project as well,
but was unable to specifically comment because there was no comprehensive
draining plan providing the details showing the total amount of area disturbed and
proposed pervious to impervious conversions. Until the drainage plan was
complete, the consultant would withhold comments. Olson stated this
development triggered no alarms as yet,but there was concern about protecting
potential resources in the area of the Blacksmith Shop. He suggested the
commission provide feedback saying there are potential resources it is
investigating and wish to protect if such resources are discovered or confirmed.
Spera asked for clarification as to who was investigating, and Olson replied the
archeological grant for the Hennepin Town Site would do this. Discussion
followed on the relationship of the grant to the development. Creamer replied the
developer could be required to survey the area, or investigate just the Blacksmith
Shop area. Olson said the commission needed to have language up front with the
developer so there are no major surprises or changes.
Olson asked if there was a record from SHPO on the 1917 house, and Thorp
replied it was not one of the inventoried properties. Olson then questioned if it
was historic, and Ross replied the house was 100 years old. Discussion followed
on the history of this house. Creamer reiterated she wanted to commission to see
the plans early, and the question of handling the storm water would drive the
project's future timeline. In the end, the development agreement would enforce
the conditions, including the commission's concerns.
IX. ONGOING TRAINING
Creamer stated she was keeping this part of the agenda as a standing item. There was no
training at this meeting.
X. FYI ITEMS
A. COMMISSION INTERVIEWS TUESDAY, FEBRUARY 28, 2017
Creamer stated she would attend the interviews.
B. HISTORY DAY AT THE CAPITOL
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Creamer stated as a result of receiving an email invitation she attended History
Day at the state capitol, where she met with State Representative Jenifer Loon
(48B), Senator Steve Cwodzinski (48), and honorary member of the Minnesota
Historical Society Ram Gada. Topics included the importance of Legacy funding
and the bonding bill for restoration of Fort Snelling for its bicentennial in 2020.
Discussion followed on the capitol building.
C. SEPPMANN MILL LASER SCAN
Olson displayed a video clip of a laser scan of Seppmann Mill, completed in
partnership with MacDonald and Mack for the Minnesota DNR. This "registered
point cloud" capture both data and photographs, and offered a fly-through view
with the ability to reveal various layers, to determine wall thickness and other
features, and was an alternative if a site had no plans. The software was freeware
added to Internet Explorer. In presenting this tool to the commission Olson did
not have a specific project in mind,but wanted to make the commission members
aware of it. There was the potential to engage the public,perhaps by scanning
cemeteries as a starting point.
Ross asked if this tool could be used to diagnose certain problems, such as with a
foundation, and Olson replied it could; this tool had been used on the Stone Arch
Bridge to record a sagging span. Thorp noted this also provided a record of an
existing site. Creamer remarked she did receive requests from one City Council
member for online information in lieu of a site visit, which could be another
application. Olson replied the scan was no panacea, it was useful for a property
being altered; the scan could be used as backdrop for future change. His projects
included the development of three-dimensional models and renderings.
XI. NEXT MEETING
The next HPC Commission meeting will be held on Monday, March 20, 2017 in Prairie
Rooms A & B.
XII. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Spera moved, seconded by Thorp, to adjourn the meeting. Motion carried 5-
0. The meeting was adjourned at 8:37 p.m.