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EDEN PRAIRIE HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION
MONDAY, DECEMBER 16, 2013 7:00 P.M., CITY CENTER
Prairie Rooms A & B
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Ed Muehlberg (Chair), Cindy Cofer Evert (Vice
Chair), Steve Olson, JoAnn McGuire, Pamela
Spera, Mark Freiberg, Deb Paulson
STUDENT REPRESENTATIVES: Hannah Jeter, Greta Colford, Laura Lindberg
STAFF: John Gertz, Pathfinder CRM, LLC
Lori Creamer, Staff Liaison
Heidi Wojahn, Recording Secretary
I. CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL
Chair Muehlberg called the meeting to order at 7:06 p.m. Commissioner Cofer Evert and
Student Representatives Jeter, Colford, and Lindberg were absent. Paulson arrived at 7:08
p.m.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION: Freiberg moved, seconded by McGuire, to approve the agenda. Motion
carried 5-0.
Paulson arrived at 7:08 p.m.
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
MOTION: Freiberg moved, seconded by Olson, to approve the November 18, 2013
minutes. Motion carried 5-0-1 with Paulson abstaining.
IV. REPORTS OF COMMISSION AND STAFF
A. UPDATE ON HISTORIC SITES
None
B. UPDATE ON EPCF GRANT—McGuire
McGuire will contact the Eden Prairie Community Foundation (EPCF) and start a
proposal when a specific project has been identified.
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C. UPDATE ON LEGACY GRANT—Creamer
We received the grant for the Dorenkemper landscape plan and an authorization letter
to begin work on the project. We need to go through the Request For Proposal (RFP)
process again and are hoping to use the same group doing the Riley-Jacques
Farmstead project. It would be more conducive to the site and flow better. Gertz
advised Creamer to send an RFP to both The 106 Group and Bluestem Heritage
Group (BHG) as well as publish it the same as is done for Certified Local
Government(CLG) grants. Creamer said despite the deadline being a ways off, she
would like to get started and possibly have some proposals ready to discuss at the
February meeting. That way it can dovetail with the current project.
D. UPDATE ON SIGNAGE PROJECT - Creamer
Parks and Natural Resources Manager Stu Fox has told Creamer the interpretive
panels are on a yearly maintenance plan for cleaning, but some are old and they aren't
able to get them clean. Gertz said simply washing them does not suffice; they need to
be cleaned with an automotive buffing compound. Creamer said Fox did not specify
the cleaning method used. He did say while he appreciates the offer of using
volunteers, it is too difficult to manage and creates more work. Volunteers often only
commit to helping one time rather than on an on-going basis. Parks Maintenance is
then left wondering whether or not the work is being done.
Fox also said funding for the signs at Richard T. Anderson was raised via the efforts
of a private party so there is a question of whose responsibility it is to maintain those.
Gertz said there is actually a mix of signs from the HPC and another party, both in
conjunction with grants. It is unclear who purchased the signs noted in Cofer Evert's
review.
Creamer said Cofer Evert had mentioned the need for a garbage can by Miller Spring.
Fox told Creamer there was one there before,but people were using it for their
personal household garbage. It became a nuisance as it required daily emptying and,
as a result, the can was removed. People should plan to leave with what they brought
in.
Signage plans can be discussed at a future meeting,but we can pursue grants to
replace some of the signs. Olson volunteered to clean one sign per the manufacturer's
recommendations and then have commissioners determine if it's suitable before
deciding on the next step. Muehlberg said first we need to verify how they have been
being cleaned. Freiberg explained how the buffing compound works. Gertz said it
would probably help with scratches, too. Creamer said she will put the test cleaning
of one sign on the 2014 work plan for second quarter.
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V. OLD BUSINESS
A. WORK PLAN REVIEW
Creamer commended the commissioners on accomplishing a lot this past year. She
explained open-ended items and unfinished business from 2013 were moved to the
2014 work plan as a starting point.
VI. NEW BUSINESS
A. 2014 WORK PLAN IDEAS
Discussion of items for the 2014 Work Plan included the following:
• Council Workshop -- Creamer said all commissioners are invited to the workshop
on Tuesday, January 21st. All commissions will be meeting in the Heritage Room
at City Center that evening and each will be giving a brief presentation. There will
be a meal at 5 p.m. followed by the workshop at 5:30. Parties interested in dinner
should RSVP to her. Muehlberg said this is a good opportunity to hear what other
commissions are doing and to get feedback from Council.
Creamer noted the website is now live and can be found under the maps tab. The link
is not yet available from the HPC page due to the Communications Department being
understaffed.
• Annual monitoring of Glen Lake Children's Camp
• Local Heritage Site Designation for the Dorenkemper House (DK)
• EPCF grant application -- this needs to be done in first quarter in order to meet the
March deadline. Gertz said a kiosk for the Riley-Jacques Farmstead interpretive
panels would be ideal for this grant. EPCF grants tend to favor projects with a
tangible outcome. It would be accessible at a City park and fits into the CLG
schedule. He has already received some kiosk pricing and can bring that
information to the next meeting. It is possible the Parks Department could build it
but if not, then we can apply for the grant. It depends on what the plan suggests
for sign location.
Creamer suggested we try for the grant and pursue other avenues if it doesn't
work out. She received the signed contract from BHG. They will want to meet
with the HPC soon. Muehlberg reviewed the BHG timeline and suggested the
initial meeting with the Commission be added to the work plan for first quarter.
Creamer said it probably makes more sense to list it under the ongoing section.
McGuire said she would contact EPCF and get started on a grant proposal using
Gertz as a resource.
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• Update of interpretive panels program -- this needs to be revised to"rejuvenation
of interpretive panels" and moved to second quarter.
• Website maintenance -- Gertz said he would be willing to monitor the City
website quarterly and make note of needed changes pertaining to history or
historic preservation. Creamer said this would consist of updates and the addition
of any relevant PDF documents and upcoming events. Additionally we would like
to be able to click on the individual historic properties and have that take us to
another page with more photos and information about each respective site. She
expects it could take a while and she needs to work with Communications on this.
• Arts in the Park -- this was originally brought up as a fundraising opportunity to
sell prints and books. Creamer said sales were not successful last year at the July
4th event. McGuire suggested planning and hosting an educational event during
which items could be sold. It could consist of bringing in speakers and giving
attendees driving directions to the various historic sites. Paulson said she liked the
idea of advertising on another level. If the different sites are explained, that will
create interest and draw in potential buyers as the material will have meaning
versus items just sitting on a table with no context. She expects this type of event
would generate a lot of interest in the community. Possible locations were
discussed with emphasis on the Riley-Jacques Barn.
Creamer asked McGuire what speakers she had in mind. McGuire said Gertz or
Paul Anderson would be interesting. Anderson,retired from the Minnesota
Supreme Court is associated with the Anderson Lakes family. Creamer said the
event could be done in conjunction with the Eden Prairie Historical Society
(EPHS). Muehlberg said doing so would bring in more people.
Paulson asked about doing a bus tour with an explanation at each site. It would be
a good way to promote interest in the community about what is available. It could
be offered as a one-time free event with online registration and could expand from
there if successful. Advertising could be done in the Community Education
catalog. Creamer said the senior center was another avenue for promotion.
Freiberg noted the listing of historic sites in the Parks and Rec catalog. Creamer
said it should be advertised in there as well. McGuire said she liked the idea of a
bus tour. Muehlberg said it is good since part of what the HPC is supposed to do
is educational awareness. Freiberg said he liked that the concept was fresh.
Spera asked about property accessibility so people could go inside the buildings
during the tour. Creamer said it could definitely be arranged for the city-owned
properties. Gertz said some private owners have been accommodating in the past
in terms of opening their doors as well.
McGuire said Cofer Evert would be a good choice to spearhead this project given
her marketing background. Creamer agreed she would probably be interested in
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helping somebody and would have a lot of good ideas. Paulson said she would be
happy to help. Creamer said perhaps Southwest Metro would be willing to donate
transportation. If not, a bus fee could be attached to the registration process. The
HPC does not have a budget to cover this.
Spera asked if EPHS has done anything like this before. Gertz said they have
arranged annual bus tours in the past through Parks and Rec. They were popular
events and often started at the senior center and finished at Dunn Brothers with
free refreshments. Creamer said the senior center frequently coordinates bus trips
so another option would be to pursue it via that route. Freiberg noted the large
size of the current senior population. McGuire said rather than making a
commitment, we should explore the historic educational tour idea. It was decided
this should tentatively go under third quarter. Gertz said Dave Lindahl used to do
what he called "Magical History Tours" making them fun for the participants. He
would be good to keep in mind.
• Meet and greet-- Gertz suggested scheduling one between the school district's
curriculum specialist, the DK interpretive planners, and the HPC to get
conversation started about the district's use of the DK House. The interpretive
plan will be developed so it can be used by teachers and student groups.
Discussion needs to take place about what will go into lesson plans. This should
happen no later than second quarter. Creamer noted the Best Management
Practice Plan for DK is scheduled for after the local designation process.
• Update the City's Heritage Site Plaques -- this is mid-process.
• On-site HPC meetings at historic properties -- Muehlberg suggested this for
second and third quarter.
• HPC recognition -- Gertz said there should be something visible at City Center
about the HPC and its accomplishments. The City and the HPC have acquired
multiple awards and plaques for different projects over the years; space should be
designated to display them. They are boxed up in his former cubicle. He expects
there is also a sealed time capsule there from 12-15 years ago that should go to the
school district. The designated district representative never picked it up and it was
left behind. The corresponding program is also at the City. Creamer said their
office space is being redone so she needs to talk with Gertz about which existing
materials need to be saved, which can be thrown, and which can be scanned.
• Capacity building grant-- McGuire said she is interested in pursuing a grant to
attend the national conference. Creamer said there is the National Alliance of
Preservation Commissions conference in Philadelphia July 16-20, the annual
meeting in St. Paul, and the National Trust for Historic Preservation (NTHP)
conference in Savannah November 10-14. Cost and scholarship information is not
yet available for the NTHP conference.
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• Joint commission meeting -- McGuire said she thought it would be interesting and
helpful to have a joint meeting with a historic preservation commission from
another city like Bloomington, Shakopee, Chaska, or Chanhassen. Muehlberg said
this has been done in the past with Edina. They were able to compare sites,
zoning, and processes.
• Guest speaker-- McGuire inquired about getting someone from the Minnesota
Indian Affairs Council to talk to the HPC about cultural mounds. Gertz said this is
a possibility and also suggested an archaeologist.
• Archaeological project-- Gertz said this might be something worth pursuing a
CLG grant for. There is a lot of untapped history in the Minnesota River Valley.
The general location of a former village is known,but its exact location has never
been discovered. It would be fun to look into that or the old oxcart trail. It crossed
the river down there and came up through Eden Prairie up to Pioneer Trail and on
towards Fort Snelling. Remnants of an old road following the lower bluff line are
visible from a certain area and probably part of the old trail. Freiberg asked why it
had not been previously surveyed. Gertz said typically archaeology is
development-driven; there has never been a reason for it to be done there.
Creamer commented perhaps we should stick with the current plans given there
are already a couple big projects ahead. McGuire suggested we leave it open as an
exploratory idea. Muehlberg recommended putting it in fourth quarter as prep or
an opportunity to evaluate archaeological options for 2015. McGuire said it can at
least be roughly mapped out. Gertz noted the CLG grant cycle is off; this year's
project is last year's CLG grant and this year's CLG grant is next year's project.
• Student reviews of website -- Olson suggested having the new student
representatives do a one-page assessment of the website in third quarter. It gets
them oriented to the properties. They can interact with the site and give their
personal perspectives and recommendations.
Creamer said she will make any noted changes and send out a revised work plan to
the commissioners. She asked them to review it and get back to her with any
omissions or corrections.
B. JANUARY AND FERUARY 2014 MEETING DATES
Discussion took place on alternate dates for the January and February meetings due to
conflicts with Martin Luther King Jr. Day and President's Day. It was determined the
next meeting will be January 27 at City Center. Creamer will communicate with
Gertz and Bluestem Heritage Group about putting grant discussion on the agenda.
The following meeting is scheduled for February 24 with a tentative location of the
Smith Douglas More House (SDM).
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C. JANUARY 21, 2014 COUNCIL WORKSHOP
Creamer said she and Muehlberg will coordinate a brief slide presentation and demo
the new website for the upcoming Council workshop. Each commission has just a few
minutes to present.
VII. FYI ITEMS
Paulson inquired about the process for commission term limits. Creamer explained
commissioners whose terms are expiring will get a letter asking if they would like to stay
on. If yes, then the commissioner can stay another term. Otherwise, openings are posted.
Terms run through the end of March with new commissioners starting in April. Paulson
said she is fulfilling a one-year term so her term will be up in 2014.
Creamer reported she received an email from the Minnesota Historical Society regarding
the 2014 CLG grant process for 2015 projects. January 24 is the pre-application deadline
which is highly recommended. Final application is due March 7. She is looking for input
about what to do. McGuire asked if capacity building would qualify for a CLG grant.
Gertz said sometimes leftover funds will be offered for scholarships,but it is not a grant
category. Oftentimes non-CLG conference scholarships are available if prompt
application is made.
Gertz said we could try for a Legacy grant instead since they are ongoing. Small CLG
grants are up to $10,000 and require a recipient match which would be enough for a
smaller-scale archaeology project. Another good use of CLG funds is local designations
or national registrations. Creamer said we had talked about DK and SMD. Gertz said he
will take care of the DK local designation. Muehlberg asked what would be needed in the
way of a grant pre-application for SMD. Gertz said basic information such as an outline
of the project, scope of work, budget, and timeline. The pre-application is more of a
screening to determine if it will work as a CLG grant, to see how much interest there
would be in it, and to generate feedback. Creamer said she is meeting with the City
Manager on Wednesday and can check with Finance to see if there are funds available for
a national registration. Gertz said to ask for$2000 in matching funds. It may not all need
to be in cash; some could be labor. Olson said its current local designation status will
facilitate the national registration process.
Spera asked what we need to do to apply for conference scholarships. Creamer said when
she learns scholarship funds are available, she fills out and submits the necessary
paperwork. Typically participants save their receipts and are reimbursed after the fact.
Item coverage varies from conference to conference. She will forward information to the
commissioners as she gets it.
VIII. STUDENT UPDATES
Creamer noted Colford's appearance in the Eden Prairie News. She is one of over 50
students creating ceramic bowls for People Reaching Out to Other People's Empty Bowls
fundraiser.
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IX. FUTURE MEETINGS/EVENTS
A City Council Workshop for Commissions will take place Tuesday, January 21 in the
Heritage Room at City Center; 5 p.m. dinner followed by 5:30 p.m. meeting.
The next HPC meeting will be Monday, January 27, 2014, 7 p.m. at City Center, Prairie
Rooms A & B.
X. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Freiberg moved, seconded by McGuire, to adjourn. Motion carried 6-0.
Chair Muehlberg adjourned the meeting at 8:36 p.m.