HomeMy WebLinkAboutCity Council - 10/01/2013 - Workshop APPROVED MINUTES
CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP & OPEN PODIUM
TUESDAY, OCTOBER 1, 2013 CITY CENTER
5:00—6:25 PM, HERITAGE ROOMS
6:30—7:00 PM, COUNCIL CHAMBER
CITY COUNCIL: Mayor Nancy Tyra-Lukens, Council Members Brad Aho, Sherry Butcher
Wickstrom, Kathy Nelson, and Ron Case
CITY STAFF: City Manager Rick Getschow, Police Chief Rob Reynolds, Fire Chief George
Esbensen, Public Works Director Robert Ellis, Community Development Director Janet Jeremiah,
Parks and Recreation Director Jay Lotthammer, Communications Manager Joyce Lorenz, City
Attorney Ric Rosow, and Recorder Lorene McWaters
Workshop - Heritage Room H
Mayor Tyra-Lukens was absent, so Council Member Case served as Acting Mayor. City
Attorney Ric Rosow was also absent.
I. CITY MONUMENVENTRANCE SIGNS
Presentation
Community Development Director Janet Jeremiah and Community Development Technician
Tania Mahtani presented a PowerPoint on entry monument signage. Jeremiah noted that at
their goal setting session, the City Council listed entry monument signage as a top priority.
She said an entry monument signage program is included in the Strategic Plan for Housing
and Economic Development as a medium priority project, with the Economic Development
Fund identified as a source of funding.
Jeremiah showed examples of several entry monument signs from other communities. She
said tonight's discussion will touch on the following:
• Budget
• Number and size of signs
• Location of signs
• Landscaping
• Building materials
• Lighting
• Design
• Maintenance
Jeremiah said there is $250,000 programmed for monument signage over the next two years,
and those funds can be pulled from the Economic Development Fund. Staff contacted other
communities that have monument sign programs to get an idea of costs. She said Burnsville
recently paid $15,000 to develop designs for Council consideration. They estimate it will
cost around $25,000 for final design,permitting,bidding and construction of the first sign.
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Jeremiah outlined a potential process that includes the following:
• Hire a consultant to complete a visual survey of design examples
• Solicit input from Planning Commission and the Parks, Recreation & Natural Resources
Commission
• Based on the visual survey and commission input, consultant creates sign designs
• City Council selects three designs to be posted on City Connect for broader public input
• Present City Connect results to City Council and determine construction priorities
Mahtani presented a map with 13 potential locations for entrance monuments identified along
with estimated traffic counts:
Possible Siizn Locations at Westbound Entrances
Pioneer Trail (8,000)
Anderson Lakes Parkway (5,250)
494 (51,000)
Prairie Center Drive off 494 (12,900)
Highway 212 (30,000)
Possible Sign Locations at Eastbound Entrances
Highway 5 (19,500)
Highway 212 (23,000)
Pioneer Trail(1,675)
Flying Cloud Drive (4,400)
Possible Sign Locations at Southbound Entrances
Shady Oak Road (6,800)
494 (47,500)
Baker Road (3,050)
Dell Road (4,850)
Mahtani provided information on presumed ownership of each location and factors that
might affect sign/monument placement.
Discussion
Nelson said she likes the idea of having a sign on Baker Road, since the boundary between
Minnetonka and Eden Prairie is not clear. Aho and Case said they would like to see a sign on
Highway 5 eastbound.
Case said there are three areas the City Council needs to discuss:
1. Do they want signs? (There was agreement that everyone present is in favor of monument
signs.)
2. Where should the signs be placed?
3. Design process
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Butcher Wickstrom said she would like the Council to have heavy involvement in the design.
She suggested involving the Parks, Recreation & Natural Resources Commission (PRNRC)
by soliciting their input at the appropriate point in the process. Lotthammer noted that the
PRNRC member who had expressed the greatest interest in monument signs is no longer on
the commission. Case said if groups other than the Council are used,he feels their tasks
should be very clearly spelled out. He said it will be important to leave the final design
decisions up to the Council. Butcher Wickstrom said it would be useful to get feedback from
the larger community once some designs have been developed. Aho said that larger group
could help with identifying branding ideas and developing several ideas the Council is
comfortable with. Case said he very much wants to run with the branding idea. He wants the
monument signs to make a statement about the fact that you are now entering Eden Prairie.
What does that look like and feel like? Case said this is important work, and the right kind of
signs could be critical in getting people here. Aho, Case and Butcher all agreed that they
"want to do this right."
Nelson suggested having different materials and shapes presented for consideration as a
starting point for the design. Butcher said she favors taking an innovation approach. She
would like to start with a blank piece of paper, and have the Council Members come up with
options. She suggested beginning with what vision the Council has rather than looking at
what already exists. She would like to have indigenous/regional materials brought in so they
can see what they actually feel and look like. Case said he agrees with the innovation
approach. He would like to retain a consultant who could lead them through the visioning
process. He said the Council Members have their fingers on the pulse of what matters to the
community. Case envisions developing three to five ideas that could be forwarded to a
designer who would create concepts based on them. Butcher Wickstrom said she likes "blue
ocean visioning." She noted that Baker& Associates did the City's branding a few years
back. Aho said he agrees that before any designs are created, the City Council should take the
opportunity to discuss concepts and visions. Butcher Wickstrom said she sees the process as
an inverted inclusive one. Nelson said the creative piece could potentially be very expensive.
She suggested the City Council put a figure on how much it is willing to devote to the
project. Case said he feels that doing the creative piece of the process is critical.
Case reviewed the outcomes of the discussions as follows:
1. Identify costs of visioningibranding piece of the process
2. Clearly define how the public fits into the process
3. Retain a designer that can take concepts from the branding process and develop sign
samples
4. Decide on locations, and priorities of sites.
The Council Members reviewed the 13 possible sign locations and provided input on their
level of priority.
Higher Priority Locations
Pioneer Trail - Westbound
494 - Westbound
Highway 212 - Westbound
Highway 5 - Eastbound
Highway 212 - Eastbound
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494 - Southbound
Baker Road—Southbound (perhaps a smaller sign)
Pioneer Trail—Eastbound (perhaps a smaller sign)
Dell Road—Southbound
Lower Priority Locations
Flying Cloud Drive - Eastbound
Prairie Center Drive off 494 —Westbound (perhaps a smaller sign)
Anderson Lakes Parkway—Westbound (perhaps a smaller sign)
Shady Oak Road - Southbound
Open Podium - Council Chamber
II. OPEN PODIUM
III. ADJOURNMENT