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PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
MONDAY, DECEMBER 1, 2008 7:00 P.M., CITY CENTER
Heritage Rooms 1 & 2
8080 Mitchell Road
COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Geri Napuck, Chair; John Brill, Vice Chair; Jeffrey
Gerst, Randy Jacobus (arrived at 7:35 p.m.), Ian
Mackay and Joan Oko
COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: Rob Barrett, Lee Elliott-Stoering and Tom Bierman
STUDENT REPRESENTATIVES: Andrew Baker and Michael Powell
COMMISSION STAFF PRESENT: Jay Lotthammer, Parks and Recreation Director;
Laurie Obiazor, Recreation Services Manager;
Stu Fox, Parks and Natural Resources Manager;
Wendy Sevenich, Community Center Manager;
Jeff Cordes, Forestry Technician;
Bob Lanzi, Recreation Coordinator
RECORDING SECRETARY: Carol Pelzel, Recording Secretary
I. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
The meeting was called to order by Chair Napuck at 7:00 p.m.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Motion: Oko moved, seconded by Brill, to approve the agenda as presented. The motion carried,
5-0.
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES —November 3, 2008
Motion: Brill moved, Mackay seconded, to approve the November 3, 2008 Parks,
Recreation and Natural Resources Commission meeting minutes as presented. The motion
carried, 4-0-1 with Oko abstaining because of absence from that meeting.
IV. REPORT OF CITY COUNCIL ACTION—November 18, 2008
A. Art Center Update
Obiazor reported that an update on the status of the Friends of the Art Center fund raising
efforts was given to the Council. She stated that total cash contributions from individuals to
the Art Center were $3,500. An anonymous contribution of$25,000 was received with the
stipulation that those funds are contingent on the facility being open and operational and is to
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be used for capital or improvement items for the building. Obiazor explained that numerous
grant applications to various foundations and non-profits have been made. They have
received $8,500 from the Eden Prairie Foundation for pottery equipment with the caveat that
those funds will be made available if the building is up and operational. Obiazor further
explained that their winter program brochure registrations will be starting this week. They do
have Art Center programs that will be temporarily housed in the Senior Center. They are
developing spring/summer programs and are moving forward with the expectation that they
will be in the Art Center for those programs. If they aren't, they will look at alternative
spacing. She indicated that they are not where they need to be with fund raising to move
forward. Obiazor said it may be necessary for the City Council to look for alternative
funding.
Oko asked what the deadline is to decide if the spring/summer programs will need to be
relocated. Obiazor responded that the copy for the spring/summer brochure is due mid
December. They will need to know by the end of the year or early 2009 if they will be able to
use the Art Center for spring/summer programs. Obiazor explained that the parking lot has
been completed and the estimated cost to bring the building up to code and to allow them to
use the building publicly is $90,000. The start-up cost is estimated at$326,000 which
includes the work done on the parking lot. Napuck asked if there is a specific dollar amount
that the City Council is looking for overall. Obiazor responded that they would like to see
$100,000 raised. Friends of the Art Center are looking to raise enough money for the interior
work and are finding it difficult to raise those funds due to economic times.
Gerst asked where they were with regard to a resident who wanted to donate her home for the
arts. Obiazor responded that Lotthammer and the Art Center Coordinator recently met with
the homeowner and discussed the home being used for some city use. Fox explained that
there would be some code issues with this property. They are looking at it more as a viewing
area or someplace to display art rather than using it for programs.
B. Miller Park Playsround Update and Donation
Fox reported that a check for$76,651.43 had been presented to the City Council at the
November 18 Council meeting. This brings the total money raised by the Garvin family to
$211,020.43 for the Miller Park Playground. These funds will now allow them to complete
the Phase I portion of the playground which includes the swing set area and the sand/water
play table. Those items were deleted from the original bid because of lack of funds. This
additional funding now allows the City to receive quotes on that work and begin construction
in the spring or early summer.
V. REPORT OF PLANNING COMMISSION
Fox reported that there were no items considered by the Planning Commission that affected
parks.
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VI. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATION
A. Park Rental Facilities Update
Lanzi presented an update on park facility rentals explaining that they have 12 park
locations that they rent facilities out with a couple more coming on line for the next year.
He further explained that the park facility rentals are offered to the general public and in
2008 they had 273 rentals with over 20,000 users. Revenues generated from park rentals in
2008 were $30,434 and they had expenditures of$18,404.
Gerst asked if the permit requirement for large groups is of any help. Lanzi responded that
some of the challenges they have is that groups let them know they are coming but there are
still costs involved. The permit has been helpful in that it limits groups from the outside
coming in and using the park facilities. Staff does encourage those groups to use parks in
their own communities. Oko asked if the large groups are charged to use the parks. Fox said
there is no charge. For example, the YMCA groups operate within the schools and there are
some coming in from outside of the area but are under the umbrella of the YMCA. He
further explained that the intent of the permit is to make sure that people are not coming
into the parks and organizing a camp or clinic. Oko said that they hold a dog costume party
in the dog park in October with an attendance of about 100 people. She asked if a permit is
necessary for something like that. Fox said that technically, they should have a permit. If
they are advertising or encouraging people to gather a permit should be drawn. The permit
lets staff know that there will be extra trash and that the portable toilets will need to be
cleaned. The permit is a way for staff to monitor what is going on in the park system.
Napuck asked what happens if a large group permit is issued and then someone comes in
and wants to reserve and pay for a facility at the same park the large group is using. Lanzi
said if this occurs, staff tells them they are more than welcome to use the facility but there
will be a large group in the playground and surrounding grassy area and they may want to
consider using a different facility. Lanzi indicated that large groups normally use the parks
during the week and a majority of the rentals take place on weekends.
VII. OLD BUSINESS
VIII. NEW BUSINESS
A. Boundary Inspection/Diseased Trees
Cordes presented a forestry and natural resources summary for 2008. He explained that he
covers four primary areas including forestry and natural resources, resident consultations
and service calls, weed control and boundary initiative. Cordes reported that in 2008 the
diseased tree program included the removal of 800+Dutch elm trees and 31 Oak wilt trees
compared to the removal of 1,167 Dutch elms and 20 Oak wilt in 2007. Cordes showed
examples of resident consultations including telephone consultations and on-site visits. He
also reported that the City contracted for grinding of 9 stumps and removed 53 in house.
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They also conducted special tree removals for power lines, structures, hazardous, etc. and
worked with Xcel energy crews for electrical line right-of-way clearance. In 2008 they
transplanted 92 spruce trees internally including 27 at Staring Lake to re-establish a screen
and they moved 50 trees at Riley Lake Park Heritage Farmstead to develop a separation
between the ball field and the Heritage farm site. They also replaced 7 or 8 trees around the
pavilion at Purgatory Creek Park. Cordes said they hand-planted 45 seedlings at Rice
Marsh Lake Park as part of Arbor Day. Cordes displayed photos of property owners
infringing on City park property and are working on installing boundary markers.
In response to a question from Napuck, Cordes explained that the infringement photos
shown were at the discovery stage. Often times a tree inspector or himself discovers the
infringement. Brill said there had been a plan in place to mark the boundaries throughout
the entire City within four years. He asked if that is still the plan. Cordes said that plan will
probably have to be extended. They are having difficulty in getting people hired into that
position. They are unable to find someone with the necessary qualifications. Fox explained
that they are trying to make a concerted effort to send notices to the individuals telling them
that they will be coming through their area. They are trying to do a systematic survey. This
year they were able to use a new GPS unit to help them find the property pin. Fox said in
addition to trying to streamline the process, they are also trying to get organized to
systematically get through the boundary issues. Once they notify the residents they have to
get them to understand that they can't be on City property. Brill asked if a tree falls on park
property or if a park tree falls on private property, who is responsible for the removal of that
tree. Fox responded that the policy they have been following is if a tree falls from private
property onto public property, they will cut the tree at the property line and take care of the
debris and the homeowner is responsible for the remaining. From park land onto private
property, they will cut the tree at the property line.
IX. REPORTS OF STAFF
A. RECREATION SERVICES MANAGER
1. Live Well Update
Obiazor provided the Commission with an update on the Live Well program explaining
that this program is tied in with the City being one of the top ten places to retire. Eden
Prairie has been designated as being a Fit City and as one of the best places to raise a
family and live. She explained that the City offers many physical activity opportunities
including trails,baseball/softball fields/tennis courts, adult athletic sports as well as
youth athletic associations and park playgrounds. Obiazor reviewed the marketing of the
program and the Parks and Recreation mission.
FYI: Cummins House Christmas
FYI: Community Band Holiday Concerts
FYI: No-School Activities
FYI: Sledding Hill and Skating Rink
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FYI: Senior Center closed December 24, 25, January 1
B. COMMUNITY CENTER MANAGER
FYI: Fit Kids Club
FYI: Community Center Closed December 25; special hours December 24, 31, January 1
FYI: Community Center open January 1 from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m.
C. PARKS AND NATURAL RESOURCES MANAGER
1. Management and Care of Natural Amenities
Fox reported that a memo had been included in the Commission's agenda material
explaining the Management and Care of Natural Amenities. This topic was brought up by
one of the Commission members and the memo included in the agenda should provide
the Commission with some background information. The information provided is used by
staff to make day-to-day decisions.
Fox reviewed with the Commission what has been happening for the last 17 years
including deer management, tree preservation, prairie bluff conservation, etc. All of these
things are done on a day-to-day basis and staff is continually reviewing these items and
modifying and updating them. Fox distributed to the Commission a copy of a letter
received from Jeff Strate, President, Friends of Birch Island Woods, asking the
Commission to promote and develop funding for management of natural resources. Fox
explained that funding for this comes from the General Fund and basically takes care of
diseased trees and trail maintenance and is part of a bigger plan.
Napuck asked when the budget for these items is considered. Lotthammer responded that
at this point there has been no indication that they are looking to cut back in those areas.
Strate's letter suggests that funds for a part-time position for boundary inspections be
continued. His letter also states that an inspector was not hired this past year and that is
unacceptable. Lotthammer explained that they were unable to find anyone to fill this
position. He pointed out that staff has not been asked to cut back on this budget at this
time. Napuck asked if this Commission would have an opportunity to comment on any
proposed cuts and/or recommendations should that occur. Lotthammer responded that the
Truth and Taxation hearing before the City Council was held this evening and the 2009
budget was presented. On December 16 the Council will discuss how to potentially
reduce the impact to the taxpayers without impacting services. There may be a potential
for some type of reduction. Lotthammer said he anticipates bringing the 2010 and 2011
Budget for the Commission's review sometime in May or June.
Brill asked if the recently passed Constitutional Amendment will result in any additional
funds to the City. Lotthammer responded that they will have the opportunity to apply for
grants, especially on the natural resources side. He said they should know more within the
next six months as to how the City fits into the process.
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2. Deer Management Program
Fox reported that typically they do the deer management program in November, however,
the contractor is unable to do it this year at that time and is proposing that it be done in
March. Fox said their goal is to manage 20 to 25 deer per square mile of habitat. This will
also coincide with timely information gathering from an aerial deer count once there is
sufficient snow on the ground to conduct the aerial census.
3. Mini Skate Rinks
Fox reported that in the past the City has had full ice rinks and mini rinks throughout the
City. He reviewed with the Commission a map showing the various rink locations. He
explained that in the mid 1990's the City received a petition from three neighborhoods to
construct a mini rink in their neighborhood. The mini rinks do not have lights or warming
houses. Currently, the City floods mini rinks at Wyndham Knoll, Pheasant Woods and
Franlo Parks. Fox said that they started looking at these mini rinks in terms of budgeting.
They felt that if they are spending money to do these rinks and very few people are using
them, it would make more sense to discontinue the mini rinks and have the people utilize
the other facilities they have. Fox stated that they have not yet notified the neighborhoods
that they are considering the discontinuance of these mini rinks. He also stated that based
on information received from staff that flood these rinks, they are not being used and they
put the same care in these mini rinks as they do on the larger rinks.
Oko asked how they determine how many people use the rinks. Fox responded that they
maintain the rinks on a daily basis and when they groom the rinks they can tell how many
shavings are generated and they can tell if no one has been on the rink. There are no lights
on these rinks and there is no place to put your skates on. Oko said staff has indicated that
the annual maintenance for these three mini rinks is approximately $7,000 each or
$21,000. She asked what would be done with these funds if they did close the rinks. Fox
said this would be a cost savings and labor would be the same since they would probably
shift the labor to more maintenance on equipment, picnic tables and other types of things.
They would also save water since the mini rinks probably take 5,000 gallons of water.
Oko asked if the City cleans sidewalks in neighborhood parks and trails. Fox said it
depends; they do clear it in some areas. Oko asked if they clear it behind the Eden Prairie
Senior Center, Pioneer Park. Fox said he was not sure since he did not have the map in
front of him. Basically, when they looked at evaluating sidewalk and trail clearing they
made a decision on the number one factor which is public safety of people on
transportation trails along high volume and high speed streets and then on walking areas
for schools.
Mackay asked if the neighbors would be notified of the possible closing of these rinks.
Lotthammer said they could use a proactive approach and recommended that if they do
agree to discontinue these parks they send a letter and something showing them where the
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larger rinks are located. Oko suggested that if they do decide to discontinue the rinks they
send a letter to the neighborhoods promoting the new and improved warming houses.
Fox indicated that the three mini rinks were by neighborhood petition and it was made
clear that if usage is down and it did not justify operation they could be discontinued. The
letter would state that based on discussion and observations the rinks will be discontinued
and warming house facilities with lights and heated buildings are available with the
locations listed. Obiazor suggested that they also include the flyer giving the warming
house hours. Mackay said he agrees with staff s approach. These rinks are here by
petition and if the neighborhoods still want them they can come back with another
petition. This proposal will clearly save the City money. Brill said he believes they are in
a different situation then when these rinks were originally done and he feels it is a smart
thing to eliminate them.
Motion: Oko moved, seconded by Brill, to discontinue the mini ice rinks at Wyndham
Knoll, Pheasant Woods and Franlo Parks for the beginning 2008-09 winter season. The
motion carried, 6-0.
4. Cardinal Creek Conservation Area—Watershed District Project
Fox reported that Commissioner Barrett had asked about the Cardinal Creek Watershed
District Project and staff has provided a memo to the Commission regarding the project
and answering general questions the Commission might have.
D. PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR
1. Goose Dispersal Program
Lotthammer explained that at the last Commission meeting they talked about a goose
dispersal program at Eden Lake. They decided to try the program suggested by dog
owners and allowed them to run their dogs off leash. Six people signed up to stop by with
their dogs and if no one was in the park they could let their dogs run off leash to scare the
geese. Lotthammer said they probably scared 200 geese and then the next day there would
be 200 more geese there. He indicated that once the people turn in their journals they will
be able to see how many geese were actually scared off.
2. 2008 Work Plan
Lotthammer reported that the Commission did complete their 2008 work plan.
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3. 2009 Work Plan
The 2009 work plan was included in the Commission's agenda material. The
Commission should let him know if there are any items they want included in the work
plan. There will be more action items in January including review of the CIP for 2009 and
the park development projects.
Brill asked which Commission member's terms are up. Fox indicated that typically the
process starts in March with new terms beginning in April. Lotthammer said he would
bring this item to the next meeting for discussion.
Mackay asked that staff clarify the trash receptacle program for the winter in the parks.
He asked if they get pulled out of the parks. Fox responded that typically they pull
98 percent of their trash cans from the parks. If they don't, the cans are filled with
household trash and tip over and spill trash throughout the parks. The cans are also
susceptible to damage from snowplow activity. Trash cans are left in the warming houses.
FYI: City Offices Closed December 25, 26, January 1, 2; closed at noon on December 24.
X. NEXT MEETING
The next regular meeting of the Commission is scheduled for Monday, January 5, 2009 at
7:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers.
X. ADJOURNMENT
Motion: Motion was made by Gerst, seconded by Jacobus, to adjourn the meeting. The motion
carried 6-0 and the meeting was adjourned at 9:05 p.m.