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EDEN PRAIRIE HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION
MONDAY, MARCH 18, 2013 7:00 P.M., CITY CENTER
Prairie Rooms A & B
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Ed Muehlberg (Chair), Cindy Cofer Evert (Vice
Chair), Jeffrey Lawler, Mark McPherson, Steve
Olson, JoAnn McGuire
STAFF: John Gertz, Pathfinder CRM, LLC
Lori Creamer, Staff Liaison
Heidi Wojahn, Recording Secretary
STUDENT REPRESENTATIVES: Melissa Berman, Leanne Zhang
I. CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL
Chair Muehlberg called the meeting to order at 7:06 p.m. Commissioners Cofer Evert and
McGuire and Student Representative Zhang were absent.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Creamer said the Eden Prairie Community Foundation grant process would be discussed
immediately following Item VA. 2013 CLG GRANT UPDATE and noted she had new
information to report under Item VIII. FYI ITEMS.
MOTION: McPherson moved, seconded by Olson, to approve the agenda as noted.
Motion carried 4-0.
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
MOTION: Lawler moved, seconded by Olson, to approve the February 11, 2013
minutes. Motion carried 4-0.
McPherson expressed concern that items from the minutes might be forgotten if not
added to the Work Plan. Work Plan Review should remain a regular agenda item.
Creamer said it serves as a guide. Items are added and checked off on a monthly basis.
Gertz said each person has an electronic version they can keep and bring to each meeting.
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IV. PUBLIC HEARING
A. LOCAL DESIGNATION OF HERITAGE SITE— STARING LAKE
OUTDOOR CENTER
Recommendation to designate Staring Lake Outdoor Center as a Heritage
Preservation Site. A memo from City Planner, Mike Franzen, indicated official notice
of this public hearing was published March 7, 2013 in the Eden Prairie News and sent
to property owners within 500 feet on March 8, 2013.
Muehlberg asked if anyone wished to address the Commission on this matter. No one
did.
MOTION: Lawler moved, seconded by Olson, to close the public hearing. Motion
carried 4-0.
MOTION: McPherson moved, seconded by Lawler, to approve the Finding of
Significance for Staring Lake Outdoor Center. Motion carried 4-0.
MOTION: Lawler moved, seconded by McPherson, to recommend to the City
Council that the Staring Lake Outdoor Center property be designated as a Heritage
Preservation Site. Motion carried 4-0.
Olson asked if management or maintenance plans are coordinated with significance
statements. Gertz confirmed they are.
B. LOCAL DESIGNATION OF HERITAGE SITE— GLEN LAKE CHILDREN's
CAMP
Recommendation to designate Glen Lake Children's Camp as a Heritage Preservation
Site. A memo from City Planner, Mike Franzen, indicated official notice of this
public hearing was published March 7, 2013 in the Eden Prairie News and sent to
property owners within 500 feet on March 8, 2013.
Muehlberg asked if anyone wished to address the Commission on this matter. Travis
Dahlke of 6527 Kurtz Lane said his backyard buts up against what used to be
lakeshore. He attended to find out more about what is meant by a heritage site. Gertz
said the primary purpose is to preserve the historical integrity of the property. The
camp is on the National Register of Historic Places and review criteria are the same
for the Local Register. Gertz showed Dahlke a document of the process the owner
goes through once the property has been designated. He noted the standards are more
like guidelines. The camp has an agreement with the State Historic Preservation
office (SHPO) to maintain the property according to these standards. Property within
that boundary comes under the review of HPC for any major building or site
alterations, primarily those that are non-reversible. HPC would use the standards to
assess proposals.
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Dahlke said the background information was helpful but he was more curious about
the lake. He asked if work were to be done on the lake itself, would it be under City
control because it is park land or would it fall under HPC scrutiny. Gertz said raising
the lake level is not an issue. HPC would be involved if the character of the lake were
to be impacted, such as dredging or modifications to the beach. If this were the case,
there would be other components involved including the watershed district and City
engineering department. The reason Friendship Ventures has a letter of agreement
with the State is because they received state funds. This means they agree to the
review process for a set period of time. They are federal guidelines, but the
monitoring is done by SHPO because it is the office that provided the camp with
money. Creamer noted the camp's lease is up December 31, 2014 and they have the
option to renew for another ten years. Dahlke inquired about the lack of success with
the lake restoration. McPherson said it was damaged several years ago when
Highway 62 was expanded. The problem was supposedly corrected. Dahlke said the
lake level has not gone up. Gertz said development and pumping out of wells has
created a statewide problem for lakes. He suggested Dahlke talk to Leslie Stovring in
Engineering for additional information.
MOTION: Lawler moved, seconded by Olson, to close the public hearing. Motion
carried 4-0.
MOTION: McPherson moved, seconded by Lawler, to approve the Finding of
Significance for Glen Lake Children's Camp. Motion carried 4-0.
MOTION: McPherson moved, seconded by Lawler, to recommend to the City
Council that the Glen Lake Children's Camp property be designated as a Heritage
Preservation Site. Motion carried 4-0.
V. REPORTS OF COMMISSION AND STAFF - Creamer
A. 2013 CLG GRANT UPDATE
Despite Gertz's report last month about the landscape grant request not fitting with
SHPO's funding priorities, staff and Council persisted in seeking funds. Leanne
Brown worked with Jay Lotthammer and Creamer to complete and submit the grant
by the March 1st deadline. They expect to hear by end of April or early May if the
grant is funded. Gertz will continue to work on the legacy grant which would include
the landscape plan for the Dorenkemper house. Gertz clarified the grant Brown
worked on is for interpretive signage for Riley Jacques farm. Gertz asked what the
grant covered. Creamer replied it was for panels, graphics, and historical research but
not stands. Gertz asked who would administer the grant. Creamer said it would be the
planning department.
B. ADDITIONAL GRANT OPPORTUNITY
Cofer Evert recently attended the Eden Prairie Community Foundation (EPCF) Town
Hall Gathering. Muehlberg said she took notes about their grant process which is a
possible source of funding for HPC. The deadline is approaching quickly. Creamer
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relayed the key points of emphasis are on community impact, education,recreation,
and environmental. Cofer Evert has suggested submitting a grant request of$5,000
for interpretive panels.
Olson said if there two funding cycles per year, it might be best to wait for the next
cycle. Muehlberg agreed the timing would be better than trying to meet the March 25
deadline. Olson accessed the EPCF website and said it appears there is just one grant
cycle annually. McPherson proposed they try for the grant with the City's help.
Creamer said it could be for replacement or repair of signage separate from the CLG
grant. McPherson said installing panels for properties with no signage was a higher
priority. Muehlberg volunteered to look into it. Olson confirmed the grant cannot be
used for general operations. Lawler said he thought the entire grant should be used for
just one property. Gertz agreed saying interpretive and landscape plans need to be
coordinated because they work together. Signage needs to tie in with its respective
site.
Gertz said assuming the landscape plan for the CLG grant is funded, it can be done
this year. He investigated costs for metal and timber kiosks which are an option for
housing signs, but$5,000 won't pay for more than a basic structure. The roof helps
protect them from weather and sun, and they are more accessible since they are free-
standing structures. Olson said the EPCF grant refers to programs. Bricks and mortar
are not mentioned. It seems we are scrambling and need to be more intentional. The
decision was made to hold off on applying this year. Creamer said it should go on the
work plan for next year. Gertz said simple curriculum for the Dorenkemper house,
such as a question/answer booklet for social studies students would probably fit well
into the foundation's grant.
C. COMMISSION RECRUITMENT UPDATE
Creamer thanked McPherson and Lawler for their service on the Commission.
Unfortunately there were no applications to fill their spots. Candidates who applied
for other commissions,however, were asked if they'd be interested in serving on the
HPC. As a result, three new commissioners will join HPC next month. They are
Pamela Spera and Mark Frieberg for three-year terms and Deb Paulson for a one-year
term. Orientation takes place on Thursday. Creamer asked for feedback on new
commissioner packets. Olson said the only thing he thought should be added is a
spreadsheet of work plan items. He volunteered to be the keeper of the spreadsheet
and will update as needed.
D. HRDC PARTNERSHIP OPPORTUNITY
The Human Rights and Diversity Commission (HRDC)has asked to partner with
HPC on a project. HRDC has the opportunity to write a $5,000 story circles grant for
preserving people's stories. Commissioners would talk with residents and record their
historical stories in either small groups over multiple nights or one larger event. The
HPC would focus on the historical aspect, while HRDC would be looking at the new
face of Eden Prairie. HRDC would work with Community Ed and the library and
would administer the grant. The grant deadline is June and requires reporting at the
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end of November. Stories may be published in the newspaper, website, and/or in a
booklet.
Gertz said it is a great idea and Eden Prairie Historical Society (EPHS) should be
involved. Creamer said she told HRDC about EPHS and it seemed one night meeting
would be easiest as they have their hands full with the website project right now.
Gertz said when he was involved with the commission years ago, they did community
programs where stories of early settlers were featured. There are two stories, in
particular, worth sharing.
Creamer said Karla Wennerstrom approached Molly Koivumaki at the Council
workshop and told her it would be a great idea to post stories in the newspaper.
Berman inquired if people could submit their own stories. Creamer asked if she
thought students at the high school would help. She said there is a diversity club at
the high school, as well as other clubs, that could be approached to conduct
interviews. It could be advertised in the school paper, as well. Commissioners
expressed these were good ideas and students would be a great resource. While in
agreement this is a worthy project heading in the direction Council would like to see
them go, the item was tabled until the new commissioners come on board.
VI. OLD BUSINESS
A. WEBSITE UPDATE
Creamer said Gertz provided Adam Feidt with photos and blurbs, but Feidt has not
had time to do much with the website due to being short-staffed. He did change the
banner a bit placing it over Creamer's faded antique wallpaper. He also had some
questions for HPC which commissioners felt they had already addressed last month.
To recap, there will be four categories of heritage sites on separate tabs. One photo of
each site will be displayed on the map page with a short blurb. From there, users can
link to another page with multiple photos in possibly a slideshow format.
Gertz said the sites will not be final until seen by everyone. Changes can be made
after the information has been added to the website. Some updated photos are needed,
as well. Creamer said Feidt will continue to work on the site time permitting. Gertz
requested Feidt give him feedback so he can make adjustments as needed. McPherson
suggested once the site is launched, it be announced in the newspaper's historical
column for several issues. Berman said QR codes could be implemented. Creamer
stated there should be some publicity on the City website, too. Communications may
need about a month to look over and approve the site before it goes live. Creamer will
ask Feidt to give updates on a monthly basis.
B. UPDATE ON HISTORIC SITES
Creamer reported Jan Mosman sent an email inquiry about adding a"for lease" sign
to the existing sign at Cummins Grill House. Steve Durham of the Planning
Department responded to her stating,per code, signs must be six square feet or less.
He also advised her to review the lease agreement and run it by HPC prior to
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placement. Gertz said there are specific sign criteria for heritage sites. Sites are
limited to one sign. It does not require a Certificate of Appropriateness;but renting is
not the same as leasing, and they want to avoid hanging a sign out there indefinitely.
This should be talked about more in the Planning Department. McPherson and
Creamer agreed there is a differentiation between renting space for events versus
leasing space long-term. Gertz suggested a sign with a contact phone number be
posted for only the leasable space upstairs. Once it has been leased, the sign should be
removed. Even though EPHS is responsible for rentals, it is a city building so rentals
could be managed through the Parks Department website similar to the process for
park facilities.
Creamer reported the city manager said building inspections issued a temporary
certificate of occupancy for Green Acres. It now has a fully functional sprinkler
system.
C. JOINT MEETING WITH EDEN PRAIRIE HISTORICAL SOCIETY (EPHS)
Muehlberg said it might not be best to introduce new commission members on a night
when then have a joint meeting with EPHS and an abbreviated HPC meeting.
Creamer said she contacted Betsy Adams about this and found out May 20 does not
work for EPHS, but the third Monday in June or July would be good.
Jumping ahead to New Business, Creamer said possible dates for a joint meeting with
Parks & Rec would be June 3 or a bus tour on July 1 during which they would go to a
couple sites and talk about them. This should be considered when selecting a date to
meet with EPHS. Muehlberg said the EPHS meeting should be placed on hold until
next month when a decision can be made with the new commissioners. Creamer said
the situation was the same for the Parks meeting. A decision was made to postpone
scheduling either meeting until next month.
Gertz asked what the purpose of the Parks meeting is. Creamer said it has to do with
The Lookout site and trail enhancements in the area. HPC has expressed great interest
in this site. Muehlberg said the trail is the first step in allowing future access. Lawler
said there is city-owned land that is not accessible below the fish and wildlife land in
The Lookout area. There is a road,but it is gated with "no trespassing" signs. He
asked if that is where the proposed trail would go. Gertz said the trail will parallel the
highway. The area Lawler referred to is Old Riverview Road and has been gated for
safety reasons.
D. WORK PLAN REVIEW
Creamer said two things can be checked off the work plan: Preservation Agreement
Monitoring Report for Glen Lake Children's Camp and local designation for Glen
Lake and Staring Lake. Other items are in progress. A Best Management Practice
Plan for Cummins Grill House and Goodrich Ramus Barn is on Gertz's to-do list for
second quarter.
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VII. NEW BUSINESS
A. JOINT MEETING WITH PARKS & RECREATION
This item was discussed out of order under Item VI.C. Joint Meeting with Eden
Prairie Historical Society (EPHS).
Creamer said she would find out if meeting at The Lookout site is a possibility for the
joint meeting with Parks & Rec.
VIII. FYI ITEMS
Creamer said she received a letter from Michael Koop about training for heritage
preservation commissions offered by SHPO. SHPO staff is available to attend meetings
and offer presentations on Local Designations: Best Practices, How to Run an Effective
Meeting, and Design Review: Preserving Heritage and Improving Physical Environment.
Beginning in April, presentations are provided on a first-come, first-served basis with six
appointments available in 2013. A decision was made to wait for the new commissioners
to start before pursuing this.
Gertz said copies of the local designation forms on Eden Prairie letterhead should be sent
to Michael Koop asking him to review and comment on the proposed local designations.
His response should be included in the file.
IX. STUDENT UPDATES
Berman said a story on the Goodrich Ramus Barn ran in the school paper. She will bring
a copy to the next meeting.
X. FUTURE MEETINGS/EVENTS
The next HPC meeting will be Monday, April 15, 2013, 7 p.m. at City Center, Prairie
Rooms A & B.
Muehlberg and Gertz thanked McPherson and Lawler for serving on HPC.
Gertz said the City website should include Commission updates. Creamer asked him to
forward information to her about outdated information on the HPC webpage.
XI. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Lawler moved, seconded by Olson, to adjourn. Motion carried 4-0. Chair
Muehlberg adjourned the meeting at 8:54 p.m.