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FLYING CLOUD AIRPORT ADVISORY COMMISSION
THURSDAY, MAY 10, 2012 7:00 P.M., CITY CENTER
Heritage Room 1
8080 Mitchell Road
COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Jeff Larsen, Chair; Keith Tschohl, Vice-Chair;
Commissioners: Ben McQuillan, Jeff Nawrocki and
Joe Sutila
COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: Caryl Hansen and John Pratten
STUDENT REPRESENTATIVES: Kevin Gadel
COMMISSION STAFF PRESENT: Scott A. Kipp, Senior Planner
Carol Pelzel, Recorder
VISITORS: Jennifer Lewis, MAC Representative
I. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
Chair Larsen called the meeting to order at 7:07 p.m.
II. NEW COMMISSION MEMBERS
New Commission members McQuillan and Sutila briefly introduced themselves. McQuillan said
he owns a small flight training company at the airport and has been a flight instructor at the
airport since 2001 and his education was in aviation management. Larsen pointed out McQuillan
received the Flying Cloud Operator of the Year award a couple years ago.
Sutila said he moved back to Minnesota two years ago and was in the Air Force for six years and
was with Northwest Airlines for 32 years. He is retired and felt it was time to get involved in
something that he has an interest in.
Kipp administered the Oath of Office to new Commission members McQuillan and Sutila.
III. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Larsen suggested they move Item VIL Final Agreement between City and MAC to the front of
the agenda. He also suggested that for future meetings this item be considered after Guest
Speakers so the MAC representative does not have to sit through the entire meeting.
MOTION: Nawrocki moved, seconded by Tschohl, to approve the agenda as amended. The
motion carried 5-0.
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IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. COMMISSION MEETING HELD THURSDAY, MARCH 8, 2012
Larsen recommended that since two voting members are absent and they would not have
a quorum to approve the minutes they continue this item to the next meeting.
V. GUEST SPEAKERS
VI. DISCUSSION ITEMS
A. FINAL DRAFT OF 2011 YEAR-END REPORT AND 2012 GOALS
Larsen apologized to the Commission for not getting this information to them sooner but
they had experienced some difficulties in generating the report. He asked the
Commission to review the report this evening. The report will be presented to the City
Council at their workshop on Tuesday, May 15. The Council will officially act on the
report at their regular meeting that same evening. The Commission did a page-by-page
review of the report and made suggested changes and additions.
Motion: Motion was made by Tschohl, seconded by Sutila, and all members present
voting aye to present the 2011 Year-End Report and 2012 Goals as revised to the City
Council at their May 15 workshop. The motion carried, 5-0.
B. EDEN PRAIRIE FLYING CLOUD COMMISSION WEBSITE PRESENTATION/
REVIEW EVALUATION REPORT
Larsen explained Commission members will not be working on the Commission's
website until the City has completed the revamping of the City's website.
VII. EDUCATIONAL ITEMS
A. CONTINUATION OF PRESENTATION ON NOISE RELATED TOPICS
VIII. FINAL AGREEMENT BETWEEN CITY AND MAC
A. NOISE COMPLAINTS/STAGE 2 OPERATIONS REPORT (MARCH-APRIL)
Lewis reported when the February report was presented at their last meeting it did not
include the February 29 data. The only change to the report was one complaint filed
during nighttime hours but they were unable to correlate that flight to a Flying Cloud
Operation.
Lewis further reported there were fewer complaints filed in March. For this same time
period, there were 236 complaints filed in 2011 compared to 223 in 2012 with 146
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households filing complaints in 2011 and 133 in 2012. For the new Commission
members, Lewis explained the maps presented including the flight tracks corresponding
with the complaints. She briefly reviewed the reporting process and how the complaints
are dealt with.
Larsen asked where they get the numbers for operations. Nawrocki explained the
numbers are received from the Tower and the numbers provided don't include operations
when the tower is closed. Tschohl asked if they know the number of tower operations for
March and April. Nawrocki said he does not but the numbers in this evening's report are
fairly accurate. Lewis said the difference should be fewer than 100.
Lewis explained the report for April is with the new format and it is still a work in
progress. They are manually compiling and analyzing the data for the reports. Larsen
asked that the maps be expanded so they are easier to read. Lewis explained the numbers
on the map next to the dots are reference numbers and their staff talked about removing
them. Tschohl said he would like the reference numbers to remain on the map. Sutila
pointed out most of the complaints received in April are coming from reference No. 2. He
asked if MAC staff has talked to that complainant. Lewis said they have. They don't
always receive contact information but when they do, they reach out to that individual.
IX. NOISE ABATEMENT/AIRCRAFT INCIDENTS
X. NEW BUSINESS
XI. OTHER BUSINESS
A. VARIOUS FYI ITEMS
1. Approved Minutes of January, 2012
2. City Council Workshop with Commission May 15, 2012
Nawrocki said typically the Commission does an airport tour at their July meeting. He
asked if this is something they wanted to do. Larsen said he would like to do the tour and
it would be nice if they were able to visit Thunderbird. Tschohl said ASI has changed
hands and there is new ownership so this might be a good opportunity to introduce the
Commission to them. Also, any of the flying clubs on the field may be interested in
meeting the Commission.
XII. ADJOURNMENT
Motion: Motion was made by Tschohl, seconded by Sutila, to adjourn the meeting. The meeting
was adjourned at 9:08 p.m.