HomeMy WebLinkAboutHeritage Preservation - 11/19/2012 APPROVED MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION
THURSDAY, NOVEMBER 19, 2012 7:00 P.M., CITY CENTER
Prairie Rooms A & B
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Ed Muehlberg (Chair), Cindy Cofer Evert (Vice
Chair), Jeffrey Lawler, Mark McPherson, Steve
Olson, JoAnn McGuire
STAFF: John Gertz, Pathfinder CRM, LLC
Lori Creamer, Staff Liaison
Heidi Wojahn, Recording Secretary
STUDENT REPRESENTATIVES: Melissa Berman, Leanne Zhang
I. CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL
Acting Chair McPherson called the meeting to order at 7:02 p.m. Commissioners
Muehlberg and Cofer Evert and Student Representatives Berman and Zhang were absent.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION: Lawler moved, seconded by Olson, to approve the agenda. Motion carried
4-0.
III. MINUTES
MOTION: Olson moved, seconded by McGuire, to approve the October 15, 2012
minutes. Motion carried 4-0.
IV. REPORTS OF COMMISSION AND STAFF
None.
V. PUBLIC HEARING
A. SCHUSSLER BARN LOCAL DESIGNATION
Recommendation to designate the Goodrich-Ramus Barn as a Heritage Preservation
Site. A memo from City Planner, Mike Franzen, indicated official notice of this
public hearing was published November 9, 2012 in the Eden Prairie News and sent to
3 property owners on November 10, 2012.
McPherson asked if anyone wished to address the Commission on this matter. No one
did.
HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES
November 19, 2012
Page 2
MOTION: Lawler moved, seconded by Olson, to close the public hearing. Motion
carried 4-0.
MOTION: Lawler moved, seconded by McGuire, to recommend to the City Council
that the Goodrich-Ramus Barn property be designated as a Heritage Preservation Site.
Motion carried 4-0.
IV. OLD BUSINESS
A. UPDATE ON CUMMINS HOUSE FOUNDATION REPAIR
Gertz directed commissioners' attention to packet photos saying the foundation was
opened up, insulated, and backfilled. The grade was raised in order to properly drain
the site. An email from Paul Sticha summarizes this and other updates at the house.
Lawler asked if there was a hole underneath the foundation or if it was on soil. Gertz
said it sits on soil and the frost protection was done to help prevent future structural
problems. There is enough of a gap between the wall and the floor to monitor this.
McPherson inquired if the outside grade was higher than the floor elevation inside.
Ideally there would be a four-to-six inch difference to prevent moisture. A swale is
another option. Gertz replied it is possible the levels are about even. Landscape
modification is doable.
McPherson asked if weather stripping on the exterior doors and thresholds had been
completed. Creamer noted there was also no status update on landscaping. Gertz said
the prairie grass has been planted but the trees have not. Downspouts were modified
earlier this past summer. McPherson said one of the gutters needs correction due to
the way it is hanging. Olson asked if the work items in Sticha's letter were included
in the spreadsheet. Gertz said he wasn't sure they were all on the spreadsheet
although they did make it into his field notes.
B. UPDATE ON CUMMINS HOUSE UPPER LEVEL REMODELING PROJECT
Representatives from the Eden Prairie Historical Society (EPHS) are working on a
Certificate of Appropriateness (COA) and possible grant for the restoration of the
upper level of the original home. McPherson said it would nice to have an update
from EPHS at the next meeting. Creamer will contact the president.
C. UPDATE ON INTERPRETIVE SIGNAGE
Gertz said he had two documents related to interpretive panels. One shows only text,
and the other(which he circulated) includes photos. He asked Creamer to check if
there are CDs containing artwork in the office. Lawler recently saw a sign in the
community constructed of the same materials as the interpretive panels. The materials
appeared durable and the contrast was nice. The sign at Feldman Mound is in
disrepair. To transition it and other like signage to the document example would be
good. Gertz said although it hasn't been done, the old signs can be buffed out and
HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES
November 19, 2012
Page 3
restored with a rubbing compound and lustre finish. Maintenance guidelines should
be available in the office. He suggested copies be made so there is a complete set of
all the interpretive panels. There used to be a large-print bound copy in the office to
give to people unable to access the sites in person. McPherson suggested emailing
Cofer Evert to verify she didn't miss any interpretive panels. Creamer said Cofer
Evert's email stated she took photos and intends to have a summary at the December
meeting.
D. WEBSITE UPDATE
Lawler distributed copies of the format for the web page map captions to pass along
to Communications. If the user clicks on a site, it will pull up a little blurb and
thumbnail of the picture. There are a couple more pictures he has yet to obtain
(Smith-Douglas- More House and the Cemetery). Some other suggestions for the
website include a link back to the City of Eden Prairie website and to the State
Historical Society so the user can find more in-depth information. He requested input
and also asked for advice on citing sources. Olson said he likes it and would want to
see it demoed. Creamer said she could see if someone from the IT department can
show a demo at the December meeting. This project is part of the 2013 IT work plan.
Gertz said much of the information on these sites has been included in tour booklets
from the past. There could be a little more added to Purgatory Creek Bridge, and
there is additional information available on Pleasant Hill Cemetery from the local
designation form. Each property has such a form in a City file that could be linked to
on the website. The Goodrich-Ramus Barn should be added as well as the Miller
Spring, the overlook, and Eden Prairie Cemetery. The historic home at Glen Lake
Children's Camp should also be included. He recommended leaving off the burial
mounds. They would be difficult to photograph, it's best not to indicate where they
are as some are on private property. Olson agreed adding they wouldn't want
anybody disturbing those sites.
Gertz said he has additional pictures he can send to Lawler and will send him tour
information in an electronic format, as well. Lawler stated he will add the additional
sites discussed, take pictures of the sites he missed, and forward his information to
Creamer. Creamer agreed to see if someone from the IT department can attend the
next meeting or at least obtain a mock-up even if they can't attend. Lawler said he
could check how the airport commission is citing information. McPherson suggested
modeling it after another city such as Chaska. Gertz said he didn't think it was
anything to be too concerned about because the information is coming primarily from
city documents. He recommended indicating if sites are nationally-registered, locally-
designated, or eligible to be registered. Also a symbol could be added if they have on-
site interpretive signage.
A brief discussion ensued about preparing for future designation of homes nearing 50
years of age in the area. Gertz agreed it couldn't hurt to be ready. There are other
Twin Cities communities who have already acquired and restored homes. Olson
asked the age of the airport. Gertz explained it goes back to the 1940s when it was a
grass practice field used by United States Navy pilots. Some of the property was
purchased from the Goodrich and Grill families. It evolved into an airport after World
HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES
November 19, 2012
Page 4
War IL Some of the historic hangar areas have been preserved,but much of the rest of
it was recently torn down.
VII. NEW BUSINESS
None
VIII. FYI ITEMS
A. LETTER FROM SHPO—RE: SCHUSSLER BARN
Creamer stated the letter from the Minnesota Historical Society to Schussler Creative,
Inc. was included in the commission packets as an FYI item. If the barn is locally
designated, there will be two checkpoints for renovations. Bob Erickson from Welsh
Companies should be encouraged to relay any proposed site or building changes to
the State Historic Preservation Office (SHPO) and the City at the same time.
B. GOODRICH RAMUS BARN CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
Creamer reported a few more conditions were added to what was already
recommended by the HPC. It will go to Council tomorrow. They will see the project
request(PUD with waivers, etc.) and designation in addition to the conditional use
permit. The Planning Commission has seen and commented on these items. Erickson
attended the meeting and gave a presentation,but there has not yet been any feedback
from SHPO on the designation. Gertz suggested if there are any SHPO comments,
they should be included with the other documents. Later on, a preservation
management plan will need to be put together and given to Schussler. It is one of the
requirements of designation. It doesn't need to be complicated, but it needs to be done
within a relatively short period of time. Creamer asked if the plan is part of Gertz's
contract responsibilities. He said it was.
Creamer received information on Downtown Main Street from the Annual Historic
Preservation Conference held in September. Even though Eden Prairie doesn't
currently have a downtown area or main street, the guide contains helpful information
on getting people involved in and approaching projects. It is available on the
mnpreservation.org website. Olson said perhaps they could look at it online at next
month's meeting. Lawler said it will be interesting to see how Light Rail changes
Eden Prairie over the long-term.
Creamer reported Betsy Adams, the EPHS president, sent an email in regards to
pursuing a zoning change for the Cummins-Grill house. This would allow for an
office renter upstairs, a possible vendor, and usage for weddings, etc. Upon
conferring with Franzen, it was determined this request has already been spelled out
in their conditional use permit. Gertz agreed rezoning is not necessary but asked if
they were given any boundaries. Creamer said there are parking restrictions.
McPherson pointed out the conditions are similar to the Smith-Douglas-More house.
IX. STUDENT UPDATES
HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION MINUTES
November 19, 2012
Page 5
None
X. FUTURE MEETINGS/EVENTS
The next HPC meeting will be Monday, December 17, 2012, 7 p.m. at City Center,
Prairie Rooms A & B.
XI. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Lawler moved, seconded by Olson, to adjourn. Motion carried 4-0.
McPherson adjourned the meeting at 8:21 p.m.