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CONSERVATION COMMISSION
TUESDAY,JULY 31, 2012 7:00 P.M., CITY CENTER
Prairie Room
8080 Mitchell Road
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Laura Jester(Chair), Greg Olson (Vice
Chair), Stacy Bettison, Sue Brown, Kurt
Lawton, Anthony Pini, Prashant Shrikhande
STAFF: Regina Rojas, Planning Division
Andrew Rotschafer, Environmental Intern
Jan Curielli, Recording Secretary
I. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
Chair Jester called the meeting to order at 7:03 PM. Brown, Pini and Shrikhande were
absent.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Rotschafer added Item IV.D. Rebate Information. Jester added Item V.A. Parks
Recyclins!.
MOTION: Lawton moved, seconded by Olson, to approve the agenda as amended.
Motion carried 4-0.
III. MINUTES
A. Approval of Minutes for the June 12, 2012 Meeting
MOTION: Olson moved, seconded by Lawton, to approve the minutes of the
June 12, 2012 meeting as published. Motion carried 4-0.
IV. REPORTS FROM STAFF
A. Commission Member Update
Rojas said the City Manager and department directors felt that Mr. Pini should
remain on the Commission even though he will be gone for a year because it
would take quite a bit of time to recruit and to appoint someone else for the
remainder of his term. She said she will continue to send him the meeting packets.
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B. GreenStep Cities Award
Rojas said the Mayor and City Council were presented with the Step 2 Block for
the GreenStep Cities award at the last Council meeting. At this time there is one
more block that is awarded upon completion of all 16 required best practices. She
said she will continue to add updates to the GreenStep Cities website as she
receives feedback from the various City departments.
Jester asked if there are plans to change anything or update any ordinances. Rojas
said one example is to change our zoning ordinance to state that our
Comprehensive Guide Plan and zoning ordinances are in compliance with each
other. That will require the review and approval of both the Planning Commission
and City Council.
C. Blue Star Award
Rotschafer said the application for the Blue Star award is almost complete. He
noted it has turned out to be more of a comprehensive examination than he
thought. There was quite a lot of information required about development and
engineering. He has handed off the application to Ms Stovring.
Jester asked if the Commission will review the final application. Rotschafer said
Ms Stovring will review it.
D. Rebate Information
Rotschafer handed out information summarizing use of the landscaping, irrigation
and appliance rebates.
Jester asked if Ms Stovring has plans to change any of the programs. Rotschafer
said she likes the way they are working. Jester noted the number of irrigation
rebates seems low and asked if all new irrigation systems are installed with the
controls. Rotschafer said some of them are.
Bettison asked if a current irrigation system could be retrofitted. Rotschafer said it
could. Bettison said she didn't know about the rebates and thought the installers
may not be suggesting the rebates. Jester asked if there is a way to get information
about the rebates to the installers. Rotschafer said a lot of people just install the
systems themselves. Jester asked Rotschafer for suggestions on how we might
reach the installers and also to find out how many installers are in the City.
Lawton asked what percentage of single family homes are irrigated. Rojas said the
Building Department might have a record of that. Olson asked if anyone installing
an irrigation system must have a permit for it. Rojas said they are supposed to.
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V. REPORTS FROM CHAIR
A. Parks Recyclins!
Rotschafer distributed copies of a memo with the results of his survey of four
metropolitan cities'recycling programs and a sampler of recycling bins.
Minneapolis is the only one of the four that provides recycling in all their parks,
and they are working to renovate their recycling program. Bloomington, Hastings
and Edina have somewhat similar programs. Bloomington noted they have tried
recycling at their smaller parks but found there were high levels of contamination.
He said Edina has tried many things to encourage their program, but it has not
been successful.
Jester asked if he checked with Chanhassen about their program because she
thought that one has been very successful. Rotschafer said he did not but will
check with them. Jester said they have nice containers, and they may be doing
something else to help make it successful.
Lawton asked if each of the four cities is using side-by-side containers that are
clearly labeled. Rotschafer said not all do. Bloomington uses Rubbermaid
containers. Jester asked if Bloomington's program is successful at the bigger
parks. Rotschafer said they seem to be content with it.
Bettison asked if we have had surveys about people's attitude and priorities
regarding recycling. Rotschafer said there has been no study done about attitudes
and priorities,but he thought most people today do recycling.
Jester asked if we know how long the four cities have been doing the programs.
Rotschafer said Edina has been doing theirs for a long time. Jester noted we don't
know the tipping point for people to comply.
Rotschafer said one problem is that partially empty bottles are not acceptable in
the recycling containers. In addition, some of the four cities noted rotator injuries
occurring as a result of pulling the heavy recycling bins to the trucks. He said Matt
Bourne, Parks Supervisor, thought the Brute recycling rollout bin would be the
most feasible. Rojas noted that is similar to what is proposed for the Round Lake
splash pad area.
Olson thought it is important to design an education component and to monitor
the program. Bettison said whatever education we do should include explanations
of why recycling is important as well as how to do recycling.
Jester asked what Mr. Rotschafer's feeling is about where the City is headed with
this program. Rotschafer thought it all starts with the educational component and
should show what happens to material that is recycled and material that is not
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recycled. We would target highly frequented areas in the beginning and would
probably contact the sports associations to inform them about the new recycling
containers. Jester asked if he thought the Parks Department staff is ready to take
this on. Rotschafer said staff is on board with it, and Matt Bourne likes the idea of
using the trash truck rather than pulling bins.
Lawton said good signage at the point of disposal is very important. Rotschafer
suggested contacting the High School to see if any of the teachers would be
interested in having the kids make the signs. Olson thought hiring a professional
to design the signage would be important.
Jester distributed copies of a draft resolution on recycling in the parks that she and
Mr. Olson put together. She met with the City Manager and Ms Rojas today about
the draft resolution. She told them we are trying to make a statement because we
have been frustrated and have not seen progress. City Manager Getschow said a
resolution is not usually put forward by a City commission. She asked
Commission members for their feelings on whether we need a formal motion or
resolution to support this.
Jester asked if there was any discussion of developing a written strategy or plan.
Rotschafer said there has not been.
Bettison asked if there was something we could do as a commission to put
together specific thoughts on a strategy for the next step. Rojas said the next step
may be that a couple of Commission members sit down with the Parks and
Engineering staff and dialogue to come up with topics of importance. Mr.
Rotschafer could help get things going.
Olson asked who the point person is on staff in terms of recycling. Rojas said Ms.
Stovring is the Recycling Coordinator, and it would be Matt Bourne from a Parks
Maintenance and Facility standpoint. Olson asked what Mr. Bourne is currently
doing with this. Rotschafer said the Parks Department has recycling bins at Round
Lake and Miller Lake. There will be more bins at Round Lake after the
development project is completed. He said he talked to Stu Fox about the history
of recycling in the parks and why the previous efforts didn't work.
Olson said he would like to understand the overall strategy for this,how staff is
going to implement it, and how often progress updates will be given. With that
information we can get a sense of where we, as a Commission, can offer our
support.
Jester said she understood there is no overall strategy now. The next step would
be to develop a strategy. Rojas said she could facilitate a couple of Commission
members starting a dialogue with staff members. Olson asked who is assuming
responsibility for developing the strategy. Rojas said it would be Matt Bourne,
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Leslie Stovring, and Mr. Rotschafer are currently on board with developing a
strategy.
Jester thought this still might warrant some official action. Bettison proposed that
one or two people from the commission meet with Matt Bourne, Andrew
Rotschafer and Leslie Stovring to talk about what they have done and what they
see as the priorities in order to understand where they are at with the project and
to communicate where the Conservation Commission is at. She was not sure Mr.
Bourne is tasked with developing a strategy nor that a strategy is being developed.
Whoever goes to the meeting could have a list of seven or eight things the
Commission believes needs to be done.
Lawton asked if this was discussed at the City Council. Rojas said it was brought
up by Council Member Case at the May 15 meeting. At that meeting Jay
Lotthammer said staff is working towards recycling in the parks. There has been
some movement since that meeting, and Mr. Rotschafer has completed his
research.
Jester volunteered to meet with City staff. Jester said she could get in touch with
Ms Brown to see if she would like to be involved. Olson said he would be open to
meeting with staff, depending on his schedule. Bettison said that was her position
as well. Jester suggested Ms Rojas put together a meeting, and then we can see
who could attend.
Lawton suggested we put together some sort of outline of what we want to learn.
Bettison thought we could prepare a meeting agenda. Jester reviewed the points to
be included in the agenda:
• Who will develop the strategy for the program;
• Budget;
• Communication/education strategy;
• Signage;
• The focus of the program;
• Overview of where staff is coming from;
• What staff sees as the payoff for the City.
Rotschafer said the educational component is very important, as is monitoring of
the program. He thought there also is a question of how does one evaluate the
program. Jester asked if he looked for grants. Rotschafer replied Hennepin County
had grants available,but those are now closed.
Olson suggested groups like the Rotary or Lions Club might want to put their
name on the bins. Lawton suggested contacting the Isaac Walton League. Olson
thought sports clubs might help promote the program.
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Bettison suggested meeting with the point person for the Minneapolis program to
see what their renovation looks like, what has worked for them, what hasn't
worked and what they are doing to fix it.
VI. REPORTS FROM COMMISSION
A. Parks Recreation and Natural Resources Commission Joint Tour (Grey
Olson/Kurt Lawton)
Rojas distributed copies of the City Manager's blog that described the tour.
Rotschafer thought the pervious pavers being put in at Birch Island Park were very
interesting. Lawton said the parking lot with the pavers was about half done when
they were there. They had an interesting demonstration of how water drains
through the concrete-based pavers.
Rojas thought the area off the Flying Cloud maintenance site was interesting. A
service in St. Paul takes diseased elm trees from that area at no cost to the City
and converts them to energy.
Lawton noted the City uses 100% salt on the roads rather than a mixture of salt
and sand; whereas the Watershed district recommends no salt be used. He noted
Stu Fox said the City monitors where the salt is put.
VII. NEW BUSINESS
VIII. CONTINUING BUSINESS
A. LRT Community Advisory Commission (CAC) Update
Rojas said the CAC did not have a meeting in July. She said Ms Bettison is our
new full-time representative to the CAC since Mr. Pini is unable to serve.
Jester said she attended the June meeting, and there were many issues discussed.
She noted the group is very large. Rojas said they plan to have meetings centered
around various topics. Jester said there seems to be issues among the members of
the CAC. Homes are being impacted along parts of the proposed route.
B. PACE Legislation
Olson said he and Jeremy Kaplan presented information on the PACE program to
City staff on July 25. They presented the program as a development tool that has
little or no risk to the City. They did not receive a lot of feedback at the meeting.
At the meeting the City Manager alluded to the possibility of a workshop on the
program sometime this fall. Olson asked how we get to the point of having a
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workshop on this and where we go as a commission. He would like to hear back
from staff as to what the action steps will be.
Rojas said staff needs to put something together to identify the point person who
would be in charge and the staff who would identify and monitor the program
requirements. She thought the program has momentum, and Mr. Getschow
mentioned the meeting in his Friday report to the City Council. If the Council
directs going forward after the workshop session, staff would formally propose a
program.
Olson said, while this is not something that should be rushed,he was interested in
what the timeline would look like and what has to happen before the workshop.
Rojas said the next step is for the department directors and the City Manager to
identify people who would work on the program.
C. GreenStep Cities Program
D. Water Conservation Strategies
E. Comunication Strategies--Website,Life in the Prairie, Facebook, etc.
Lawton said the Communication Department is doing a good job and they
continue to put more information on the web site. He is monitoring how they
handle the Living Green section,
Jester asked Ms Bettison to provide input if she sees gaps or places we can
improve on communications. Bettison said she will look more carefully at the
information for the next meeting. She was gratified to see the article on recycling
in the Eden Prairie News although she did not like the headline that said recycling
was down.
IX. INFORMATIONAL MATERIALS/HANDOUTS
A. Project Profile--City Projects and Development
Jester asked about the projects that require waivers. Rojas reviewed the waivers
requested for several of the projects.
Olson asked if there are requirements regarding environmental sustainability for
development proposals. Rojas said a project needs to meet code requirements, and
every project is looked at on a case by case basis.
Olson suggested having a tutorial for the Commission on how proposals are
evaluated and what kind of sustainability requirements are included. Rojas said
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she could do such a presentation. She said she would bring a sample project and
run through the process the Planning Department uses.
Jester suggested that Ms Rojas and Ms Stovring point out any gaps in the code
where we could be doing a better job, such as having a green building code. Rojas
noted the City code cannot be more restrictive than the State building code.
B. Recyclins! Spreadsheet
Jester asked about the column entitled "2015 goal." Rojas said that is the goal for
Hennepin County. Jester was concerned about how they propose we would meet
that goal.
X. UPCOMING EVENTS
Jester said there will be a Clean Water event in September at the Arboretum. The cost to
attend is $60. The event will concentrate on soil issues this time. Rojas said Commission
members should contact her if they want to attend and she would see if there are funds in
the budget.
XI. NEXT MEETING--September 11, 2012
XIV. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Olson moved, seconded by Lawton, to adjourn the meeting. Motion carried
4-0. Chair Jester adjourned the meeting at 8:35 PM.