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CONSERVATION COMMISSION
TUESDAY,JUNE 14, 2011 7:30 P.M., CITY CENTER
Prairie Room
8080 Mitchell Road
COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Laura Jester(Chair), Greg Olson (Vice Chair), Sue
Brown, Ray Daniels, Prashant Shrikhande, Anthony
Pini, Kurt Lawton
COMMISSION STAFF PRESENT: Regina Rojas, Planning Division
Carol Pelzel, Recording Secretary
GUEST: Jeanette Leete, Minnesota DNR
I. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
Chair Jester called the meeting to order at 7:35 p.m. She explained the Commission had met with
the City Council at 7 p.m. thus the reason for the later starting time.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Jester asked that an item be added under Reports of Commission titled West Metro Water
Alliance Forum Report by Lawton and Pini. Brown asked that an item be added under that same
item titled Non Reusable Bag Fee.
Motion: Daniels moved, seconded by Lawton, to approve the agenda as amended. The motion
carried 7-0.
III. MINUTES
A. Approval of Minutes for the May 19, 2011 Conservation Commission Meeting
Motion: Motion was made by Brown, seconded by Pini, to approve the May 19, 2011,
minutes as published. The motion carried 7-0.
IV. SPEAKERS
A. Jeanette Leete—Minnesota DNR—Groundwater Sustainable Use
Shrikhande introduced Jeanette Leete from the Minnesota DNR explaining he met her while
attending a Watershed District meeting. Since groundwater management is a subject this
Commission has been discussing he felt it would be a good idea to have Leete make a
presentation to the Commission.
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Leete explained she works for the Minnesota Department of Natural Resources and
supervises the groundwater resources State-wide. There are a total of 16 employees in this
division with more than half of them working on mapping. She further explained that as
funding becomes available they have fewer and fewer resources to do the general work.
There is some legacy money available and they are moving forward to receiving new money
to do the groundwater management planning in specific areas. Over the last two years they
have developed some guidance documents which led them to being able to ask for legacy
money.
Leete reported the major areas of concern identified in the groundwater supply area in general
seem to be in the south eastern part of the State. They have layers of very thick rock and sand
stone and in sand stone there is no room for water. Water quality is also a concern. In the
western part of the state they have limited sand and gravel deposits. Leete reviewed the
groundwater supply areas of concern and indicated groundwater use is on the rise. She also
presented a map showing impaired streams and lakes and explained another problem they are
seeing is the public water supply. There are 700,000 wells throughout the State and their
concern is the amount of water being pumped for distribution through the public water
system. More water is used in this country than in any other country.
Leete reviewed DNR's strategy for making people aware of water usage including
encouraging and influencing local engagement as well as getting closer to people who are in
control of what happens. Leete said she sees the DNR's role to provide basic data and to keep
a household for that data so it does not get lost. They also need to adopt a long-term focus for
monitoring and prevention and to evaluate other sources. She said they need to enhance data
collection and sharing while simplifying access to that data for everyone. Leete said they need
to approach water management in a watershed context and to provide adequate financial and
technical resources.
Jester said the DNR is working to encourage and influence local engagement at the watershed
scale. She asked if at the surface watershed scale if they are working with the Watershed
Management organization. Leete said they are not. They do not yet have the funding and
these are just ideas. Jester asked if they are able to use local wells as observation wells. Leete
said it may not be necessary to drill anymore observation wells but find wells to drill into.
They cannot manage what they do not measure. Jester also asked if there are cities that
provide data electronically. Leete responded there are a few communities that do. Jester said
it would make sense for communities like Eden Prairie to work with the DNR to get the data
to them electronically. Leete said as soon as they have a place to store it they would ask for it
electronically. Rojas said there is a GIS person on staff and they may already be submitting
the data electronically.
Shrikhande said Leete has presented a lot of data this evening and asked how they can use
this information for some action at the local level. Leete responded aside from storing
information, the DNR would not look at the City's groundwater situation unless there was a
problem or question to answer. Once a problem is identified the DNR could show the City
why there is a problem. If the City decides they want to keep their wetlands, it would be time
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to start looking at water levels and have the local area evaluated. The DNR has some things
they care about by law and they will monitor those issues.
Jester asked if there is anything specific they can do at the local level. Leete answered people
grow up without a basic understanding of groundwater and don't anticipate the impact from
pumping from a well. There is a lack of a basic understanding. She said they need to get
groundwater models into the schools and to make sure the school teachers have an intuitive
feeling for it. The DNR does not have enough people to go to the classrooms to get the
information out to the students.
Shrikhande said they need to educate people that water is not an unlimited resource. This is
something that is hard to connect into their daily life and to translate into their behaviors.
Leete explained groundwater is presumed pure and they can't take water from a stream and
drink it without worrying. Groundwater deserves special protection. Shrikhande asked how
they can become proactive. Leete said Eden Prairie has established water use fees and in
some places they encourage people to use rain barrels. Many of those things are laughed at
because Minnesota is land of 10,000 lakes and we are supposedly water rich.
Jester pointed out the City encourages the use of low water appliances and are in compliance
with the DNR water fee structure. The City is at least doing something. She questioned how
they can connect people's everyday life with groundwater. Leete said it is education and they
need to get it down to the younger people.
Daniels said he has heard that groundwater is being contaminated by outside resources. He
asked if they are seeing any of that in Minnesota. Leete said the PCA and Health Department
are the experts on the areas of contamination and they know what areas there should be a
concern.
Lawton said it would be great to take all of this information and to be able to tell grade school
children that if they wash a car or water the lawn how long it would take to get it into
groundwater to use again. They need to make it simple for them to understand. Jester
suggested they consider having a groundwater model at their next display. Basically, it is the
good graces of the cities to try to get their groundwater consumption under control.
Shrikhande said they may want to start water sustainability and people may pick up on that.
This is something this Commission should discuss further.
V. DISCUSSION
A. Recap on Greenstep Cities Presentation to City Council and Next Steps
Jester said she felt their presentation to the City Council went well with the outcome of
unanimous support from the City Council. She questioned what this Commission's next steps
would be. The Resolution did state they would have some steps implemented or a work plan
by next June.
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Rojas said they do have a list of best practices for initial implementation. A number of those
practices have already been implemented and they have a good start in putting this
information on the MPCA website. Rojas said she would send the MPCA a copy of the
resolution adopted this evening. One of the things they will talk about later in the agenda is
communication strategy and to show that this Commission and City are working on this
program. Jester said if there are things this Commission needs to do they are looking to staff
to tell them. Rojas said the MPCA is a resource and they want the City to provide input and
feedback to them.
Jester asked between now and the next meeting they try to identify items this Commission
can work on at their meetings or outside of their meeting. She suggested they develop a work
plan and discuss this further at a future meeting.
VI. REPORTS FROM STAFF
A. Pond Management Update
Rojas said she brought this topic forward to the City Manager and Community
DevelopmentDirector to ask for more direction. They indicated they would talk to Council
Member Nelson to let her know it has been discussed at the Commission's past meetings
such as research and education opportunities. Rojas said she forwarded a link to the City of
Chanhassen's website on pond management to the Communication Department as an idea for
the Life in the Prairie environmental corner.
VII. REPORTS FROM CHAIR
A. Arts in the Park—Recap
Jester reported it was a cold rainy day. Because of the weather, she set the display up for only
a couple of hours.
VIII. REPORTS FROM COMMISSION
A. Water Wise E-Newsletter(Sue Brown)
Brown explained the City of Chanhassen puts together a WaterWise Conservation Program
Weekly newsletter during the summer attempting to make people aware of the water
situation. She said she felt this was an interesting program and is something this Commission
may want to develop. It is distributed by e-mail for people who sign up. They also do
something through their newsletter that is distributed throughout the City.
Jester said it would be interesting to receive feedback from Chanhassen about the program.
B. West Metro Water Alliance Forum Report (Anthony Pini and Kurt Lawton)
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Pini reported that he and Lawton attended a series of four forums offered by the West Metro
Water Alliance on protecting water resources. They found the forums to be very interesting
and were three hours in length with each targeted at public entities. Pini said he attended
three of the four with the fourth not being held until September. The main thrusts of the
presentations were about nutrient management, volume control, water control filtration and
infiltration. Pini said they are trying to get policy makers to understand the issues with water
quality and volume. He indicated the two things that stood out for him were use of rain
gardens and rain gardens in city right-of-ways. Pini said this is something this Commission
should discuss further. Jester indicated the Commission has previously had a presentation on
this. She said it will be interesting when the City has a new Public Works Director to see if
that person has experience with rain gardens. Pini said the rain gardens in the right-of-way
will take some study and some planning as well as homeowner's involvement.
Pini explained they also talked about organizing people in neighborhoods to do cleanup to
protect water quality. They focused on soil cleanup that would keep soil, leaves and debris in
the street before it goes into the storm drainage and into the lakes. He suggested they consider
having someone from the Water Alliance make a presentation to the Commission on
organizing a community cleanup. Lawton said they could also get the Girl Scouts as well as
other organizations involved in the cleanup. He explained they are also talking to
kindergartners about leaves in the street and cleaning things up they don't want in the water.
Pini said the main thing is that such an event would educate people and community
involvement raises awareness. Lawton said they need to change people's behavior.
Jester said when they get to the component of complete green streets they should look further
into the right-of-way rain gardens in the street redevelopment projects.
C. Non Reusable Bay Fee (Sue Brown)
Brown reported she has been in contact with the Secretary of State in Washington D.C.
regarding an ordinance they recently implemented for a non reusable bag fee. She is
attempting to find out what they went through to get this ordinance implemented. The
ordinance requires each retail establishment to charge each customer making a purchase a fee
of five cents for each disposable carryout bag provided to the customer with the purchase.
Brown passed around a corn resin bag distributed by Lakewinds. These bags are in
compliance with the ordinance they would be proposing but would have to be purchased for
five cents where current plastic and paper would not be allowed. The bags have to be
compostable. Jester indicated this should be a discussion item for a future meeting.
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IX. CONTINUING BUSINESS
A. Upcoming City Projects and Development—Project Profile
Rojas reviewed the Project Profile included in the agenda material reporting the Planning
Commission forwarded to the City Council a project by Grand Haven at Marsh Cove to
change from Church to Low Density Residential. This will be a 16-lot residential subdivision.
The Planning Commission also continued the Metropolitan Ford project and held an
informational meeting for GE Capital.
B. Ideas for Life in the Prairie Newsletter
Rojas explained the City is in transition right now. Life in the Prairie will now be published
every other month and distributed through e-mail.
C. Website Content
Lawton reported a meeting has been set up with the City's Communication manager for
Friday. At the next meeting they will have a better idea of what they have, don't have and
what they can put where. Rojas reported the City has contracted with a consultant to redesign
the City's website.
X. NEW BUSINESS
XI. INFORMATIONAL MATERIALS/HANDOUTS
XII. UPCOMING EVENTS
XIII. NEXT MEETING
Tuesday, July 12, 2011
X. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Motion was made by Brown, seconded by Pini, to adjourn the meeting. The motion
carried 7-0 and the meeting was adjourned at 9:20 p.m.