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PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
MONDAY,JUNE 6, 2011 7:00 P.M., CITY CENTER
Council Chambers
8080 Mitchell Road
COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Geri Napuck, Chair; Larry Link, Derek Gunderson,
and Dave Rosa
COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: Tom Bierman, Hutch Coburn and Joan Oko
COMMISSION STAFF PRESENT: Jay Lotthammer, Parks and Recreation Director
Laurie Obiazor, Recreation Services Manager
Stu Fox, Parks Natural Resources Director
Wendy Sevenich, Community Center Manager
Lindsey Danhauser, Art Center Coordinator
Carol Pelzel, Recording Secretary
GUEST: Steve McComas, Blue Water Science
I. CALL TO ORDER AND ROLL CALL
Chair Napuck called the meeting to order at 7:05 p.m.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Lotthammer asked that Item C. 1, Art Center Update be moved to VIII. New Business and also
under New Business an Update on Birch Island Woods Parking Lot Status be added.
Motion: Rosa moved, seconded by Gunderson, to approve the agenda as amended. The motion
carried 4-0.
III. APPROVAL OF PRNR MINUTES
Motion: Motion was made by Gunderson, seconded by Rosa, to approve the May 2, 2011,
minutes as published. The motion carried 4-0.
IV. REPORT OF CITY COUNCIL ACTION
Lotthammer reported the City Council took the following action at their May 17 Council
meeting:
• Approved a cost-sharing agreement with Nine Mile Creek Watershed District for a
driveway and parking lot for Birch Island Woods Conservation Area. Approximately 50
percent of this project will be funded from the Watershed District and the remaining
funds coming from the City's Storm Water Utility Fund. The parking lot will be
constructed with percoa pervious concrete. The Watershed District was interested in
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partnering with the City to potentially use this site as a test and show product. With this
product, the water will percolate down and back in through the soil and into the ground
resulting in less impact to the site.
• Accepted $250 from the US Pickle Ball Association for the purchase of nets at the Senior
Center for the Pickle Ball Program.
• Accepted a grant award from the Metropolitan Regional Arts Council for$1,500 for
strategic planning services for the Eden Prairie Players. They will be working with a
consultant to help direct them into the future.
V. REPORT OF PLANNING COMMISSION
Fox stated there was no Planning Commission action to report at this time. However, two
projects will be considered by the Planning Commission in the near future. GE Capital is looking
at a campus design and United Health is looking at the ADC Campus for possible
redevelopment. Fox further reported Suburban Chevrolet and Metropolitan Ford are looking at a
shared campus and there is a housing project being considered on the Kingdom Glory church
property. That project would generate cash park fees and would provide an additional entrance
into the Edenbrook Conservation area.
VI. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS
VII. OLD BUSINESS
A. ROUND LAKE WATER QUALITY
Lotthammer introduced Steve McComas of Blue Water Science explaining City staff and
McComas have been discussing Round Lake for some time. Over the past several years they
have experienced changes with the water level and water quality of Round Lake. The lake
has been closed for the last couple of years because of the water level. Lotthammer said
McComas has a good perspective on the ebbing and flowing of the lake and can answer
many of their questions. He further explained the information being presented this evening
will be about the lake and when the Commission takes their park tour next month they will
tour Round Lake. Lotthammer distributed a map displaying the various activity areas at
Round Lake and if the Commission determines they want to look at the lake as a master plan
concept this information will provide them with more information about the lake and will
assist them in making suggestions.
McComas said he would like to put Round Lake in perspective with other City lakes. He
presented comparisons of Birch Island, Neill Lake, Red Rock Lake and Smetana and
reviewed the transparency and total phosphorous of the lakes. The transparency for Round
Lake is pretty good at five feet for a summer average. Clarity is lost by August and the
phosphorous levels are fairly low. Typically they would like the phosphorous level at 40
parts but in 2010 Round Lake was at 47. Algae for Round Lake is 29 average parts per
billion and they would like that to be around 20.
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McComas presented an overview of the various lakes explaining when water quality is good
and shallow, algae comes to the surface. He explained the biggest driver for Round Lake is
its water table. In 2010 the water level started to come back up and over the years they have
been looking at aquatic plants that will help sustain the water quality. Round Lake Pond was
dredged and enlarged and filled with water in July 2010. That project helped settle nutrients.
They have been trying to understand what the drivers are for Round Lake and to address
those drivers and tweak them where necessary to maintain overall good water quality. For
2011 they had a cool April and cloudy days which has slowed aquatic plant growth in
general. Mother Nature has a way of balancing things out.
Link asked where Round Lake Pond is located in relationship to Round Lake. Fox responded
it is on the west side of Round Lake. McComas explained their monitoring indicated this is a
key pond where a lot of the watershed flows through. Rosa asked if the water table rising in
the drainage pond is a way to get the water level up in the lakes. McComas said they need
above average rainfall to take the water level up one to two feet a year. If there are continued
wet conditions the water level will inch up. The water table rises slowly while spring fed
lakes rise much faster.
Napuck asked in looking at the lake comparisons,how the other lakes compare to Round
Lake as swimming lakes. McComas said a main concern with swimming lakes is public
health. They want to make sure they are safe for swimming. They have done some bacterial
testing in the other lakes and they found Staring Lake has some significant algae. They would
not expect high fecal coliform levels in the other lakes so they would assume they do not
have high bacteria levels. Napuck said Round Lake has been notorious for being open and
then there would be a high fecal count and they would have to close the lake. People are
concerned about swimming there. She said the comparison of clarity with the other lakes was
interesting in that she does not think of Round Lake as being a clear lake. She said this is
something they should consider when promoting Round Lake. McComas said sometimes a
bad looking system isn't an unsafe system. Napuck said they need to overcome the
perception that Round Lake is unsafe and to promote its use. McComas said they should also
promote Round Lake as an overall experience including other activities like boating as well
as a passive recreation area with walking paths, etc.
Link asked if they have done any sampling with Lake Riley. McComas said it has been some
time since they did sampling there. In terms of clarity, Round Lake would typically have a
better average than Lake Riley. Overall, Round Lake's water quality is also better than Lake
Riley.
Lotthammer stated Commissioner Bierman questioned placing a number of spray fountains
around the lake and asked if this would be a good idea. McComas said it would be somewhat
neutral. The water quality is pretty good and they need to decide if they want this to be an
urban type setting. Spray fountains are not natural features in natural lakes. They would have
no adverse impact on the water quality and might be a benefit by moving stagnant water.
There would be some potential benefits to manage filament algae. Lotthammer said fountains
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work very well in a pool but when they are in a natural environment motors in the fountains
often have to be replaced.
McComas explained they are looking at things today that will influence Round Lake's water
level as well as the public health aspect and water quality clarity. From a public health
standpoint they don't want algae blooms. They are working with the Watershed District to
reduce nutrients coming into the lakes. This year they put barley straw into Bren Lake to
reduce the phosphorous in that system making it easier for Round Lake Pond to continue to
reduce phosphorous. They will also do a fish survey to determine the fish population and this
may be a potential project area to reduce fish to improve water quality. In response to a
question from Napuck, McComas said using barley straw in a lake is not a very good
conventional technique because of the amount of barley straw required.
VIII. NEW BUSINESS
A. ART CENTER UPDATE
Lotthammer explained this is the second full year of operation for the Art Center and Lindsey
Danhauser, Art Center Coordinator, is here this evening to give the Commission a brief
update on its operation.
Danhauser said the Art Center celebrated its two-year anniversary in May. She presented an
update to the Commission and explained some of their projects. In 2009 their revenue from
programs was $33,700 compared to $48,640 for 2010. Total revenue was at$36,101 for 2009
and $63,158 for 2010. The reason for the large increase was because they had all of their
programs up and running in 2010. The Sampson family donated $35,000 in 2009 for building
improvements and $3,000 in 2010 for a gas kiln. Danhauser further reported the Eden Prairie
Foundation gave $8,500 for a pottery studio in 2009 and $1,060 for easels in 2010. The
Friends of the Eden Prairie Art Center have indicated they will no longer assist with fund
raising events now that the Art Center is up and running. Total Art Center expenditures for
2009 was $133,259 and $178,281 for 2010.
Danhauser reviewed the various programs offered at the Art Center including birthday party
programming with 75 parties held in 2010 generating revenue of over$9,000. She also
reviewed the various building improvements and registration numbers.
Gunderson said there appears to be a large gap between revenues and expenditures. He asked
if that gap is closing and how does it look moving forward. Danhauser responded the cost
recovery is 120 percent, 100 percent of their cost and 20 percent for administrative costs and
they continue to try to exceed the cost recovery policy. In order to offer the various programs
they need to offer them at a reasonable cost and have not been able to go above the policy.
Lotthammer explained when the building was first offered to the City staff did make sure the
City Council understood what it meant to accept the building. Even though something like
this doesn't make money for the City,people still place a high value on these types of
activities for the community. Staff did present a sample budget to the Council to show them
what potentially could happen. Gunderson said he brought this up because he is concerned
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the Budget Advisory Commission will look at this similar to what happened with the Senior
Center.
Link asked how many total people have registered for classes. Danhauser responded over
4,000 people went through the Art Center last year for classes, open studio and events.
B. FEE RESOLUTION
Lotthammer explained staff is proposing changes to the fees and charges for submission in
the 2012 budget. Included with the Commission's agenda material was an overview of the
proposed changes. Parks and Recreation is a revenue and marketing component of the City
and when the City Council adopts the fee resolution in November and December they have
already published the fees for Parks and Recreation activities. Lotthammer said staff wants
this Commission to review the fees prior to Council review which will occur in August.
Fox pointed out they are proposing a change to the grave markers setting and interment fees.
Those fees will be increased based on direct contractor charges. They are also recommending
an administrative fee of$75 for non-paid overdue tree/weed ordinance violations. This fee
does not cover the full cost but it does demonstrate staff has gone the extra mile for the
violations.
Sevenich reported every year they recommend a 3 percent increase in membership dues for
the Community Center. They also do a market survey on ice rinks and every other year they
do a user fee increase and that will occur this year. Staff is recommending increases to room
rentals and park building/pavilion rental fees and to meeting room rental rates to reflect room
size and layout. Equipment rental fee options were added for the Senior Center room rentals.
Sevenich said staff has introduced a non-prime time fee for racquetball court rental and a
non-prime time fee for play structure use.
Rosa asked if there were any increases for ball field rentals and questioned why they would
not increase that rate because of the demand for those fields. Fox explained the only time
they charge for fields is if they have a tournament. They pay for the weekend per field per
day. For the youth leagues there is no charge for use of the fields and for adult leagues there
is a direct cost through their registration fee. The ball field fees listed in the resolution are for
special events such as camps or clinics.
Rosa questioned the $10 fee for upgrades and downgrades. He said if anything, they want
people to purchase more services and they should not be charged a fee to upgrade their
services. There should be a bigger penalty if they terminate or reduce their services. Obiazor
said the $10 fee is an administrative cost. Lotthammer said staff will review that proposed
change. There may be a higher percentage of people reducing or going on hiatus than people
upgrading their services. Lotthammer said staff will look into the item further and report
back to the Commission.
Motion: Link moved, seconded by Rosa, to recommend to the City Council to approve the
2012 Parks and Recreation Fee Resolution. The motion carried, 4-0.
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C. BIRCH ISLAND WOODS PARKING LOT STATUS
Lotthammer explained in 2002 a Task Force reviewed the Birch Island Woods Nature Area
and the Friends of Birch Island Woods worked closely with that group on plantings and
restoration. One of the ideas at that time was to develop a parking area to get more people to
use the trails. Staff has been working with the Watershed District and a local company to use
percoa pervious pavement for the parking lot allowing less impact to the site. This proposal
was presented to the City Council in the fall of 2010 and recently a$25,000 cost share with
the Watershed District for the project was presented to the City Council. Resident Jeff Strait
appeared before the City Council with a plan for on-street parallel parking. He indicated this
is a different and better way to take care of the parking at this site. Strait also said that staff's
proposal could result in an area for people to do unlawful activities. Having parking on the
road would eliminate those types of activities. Lotthammer said staff did contact the Police
Department and were informed that the frequency of crimes in nature areas is no more
prevalent than in other parking areas and from a crime perspective the Police Department has
no concerns about this location. Lotthammer said staff did tell Strait that they will continue
with the parking lot as planned and that it is safe and it will accomplish what it was intended
to accomplish. If they need to close and lock that area they can.
Gunderson asked if using this permeable material will cause more drainage contamination.
Lotthammer said the original concern for the contamination at this site was because there is a
building foundation on the site. There was a dump site location from 1953 but not at the site
of the building. Draining the water through ground water would take care of contamination
and as far as they know, there are no pollutants in this ground. Fox explained the City does
have to make sure they are not causing any issues so they will have to do some soil borings
in this area. The parking lot will be 7,800 square feet of pervious surface and the Watershed
District wants to demonstrate this project to show how it promotes runoff.
Napuck said she is on the Board of the Friends of Birch Island Woods and they support the
parking lot at this location. They would not want to do anything that would be harmful to an
area they fought hard to protect.
IX. REPORTS OF STAFF
A. PARKS AND NATURAL RESOURCES MANAGER
B. COMMUNITY CENTER MANAGER
FYI: Birthday Parties
Gunderson suggested staff consider doing follow-ups for these birthday parties a few weeks
after the event. He suggested they contact the people who booked the party to get
testimonials from them regarding the parties. It is difficult to get testimonials from the people
the day of the event because it is so hectic.
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C. RECREATION SERVICES MANAGER
FYI: Sounds Around Town
FYI: Staring Lake Concert Series
FYI: MN Festival of Jazz on the Prairie
FYI: Rocking at Riley
FYI: Bye Bye Birdie
FYI: KidStock
FYI: Fishing Derby
FYI: Senior Center Garden Party
FYI: Baggo Tournament
FYI: July 4h Celebration
D. PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR
1. 2011 PRNR Work Plan
Lotthammer reported the Commission's annual bus tour will take place on July 11 at
6:30 p.m. They will tour Round Lake Park and Miller Park as well as Flying Cloud
Fields. Link said he has noticed great progress is being made on the Flying Cloud fields.
Lotthammer said they are impressed with the contractor and they have been there when
they said they would be.
Gunderson said he was at Edenvale Park and saw that the basketball court was full. He
asked if staff has ever considered holding a three-on-three basketball tournament on
weekends. Fox explained they have tried a summer program but found most of the time
the youths prefer to play pickup games. Fox said he would mention this to Lyndell Frey,
Recreation Coordinator.
Gunderson pointed out that at Miller Park there is only one baby or bucket swing and
there was a line up for the use of that swing. He asked if an additional swing could be
added. Fox responded the way the guidelines are written, two swings make up a bay.
They would have to put in two more bucket swings and there currently isn't room to do
that. Unfortunately, they cannot mix and match swings because of safety standards.
Rosa said with regard to basketball,he serves on the basketball board. One of the things
they talked about was that a lot of the parents are disappointed that the Association in
Eden Prairie did not do anything after traveling basketball. About three years ago they
started a three-on-three indoor league at the High School Activity Center. For the first
year they had 12 teams and the biggest complaint was that they never had any coaching
and for the most part it was unsupervised. Because of that,parents were not in favor of
continuing this. They were also surprised they were not able to get more people signed
up. Napuck said this may be something they should look into and suggested they consider
having a tournament at one of the City's celebrations.
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Napuck asked when the Commission will be addressing Round Lake again. Lotthammer
said they will tour Round Lake in July and at one of the next meetings staff will bring it
back for further discussion.
FYI: Independence Day: Monday, July 4—All buildings and offices closed.
X. NEXT MEETING
The next regular meeting of the Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources Commission will be the
tour of City facilities on Monday, July 11, at 6:30 p.m., Council Chambers.
X. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Motion was made by Gunderson, seconded by Link, to adjourn the meeting. The
motion carried 4-0 and the meeting was adjourned at 9:05 p.m.