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EDEN PRAIRIE HERITAGE PRESERVATION COMMISSION
MONDAY,APRIL 18, 2011 7:00 P.M. CITY CENTER
PRAIRIE ROOMS A&B
COMMISSION MEMBERS Ann Higgins, Chair; Ed Muehlberg,
Vice Chair; Jeffrey Lawler, Mark McPherson,
Kay Desmarais, Cindy Cofer Evert
STUDENT REPRESENTATIVE Ian English
COMMISSION STAFF Scott Kipp, Staff Liaison
John Gertz, Pathfinder CRM, LLC
Lori Creamer, Recorder
I. ROLL CALL
Higgins called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. Introductions were made for the benefit
of the new members. Steve Olson, a guest was also in attendance.
II. SWEARING IN OF NEW COMMISSION MEMBERS
Kipp performed the oath of office swearing in of two new members; Kay Desmarais and
Cindy Cofer Evert.
III. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Kipp asked to add an item C under Reports of Commission and Staff to discuss light
fixtures for the Cummins Grill House received by the Historical Society.
Kipp stated Steve Schussler would be coming to the meeting at 7:30 and asked if the
chair would deem it appropriate to move the discussion under New Business, Goodrich-
Ramus Barn, up when he arrived.
MOTION: Lawler moved, seconded by Muehlberg to approve the agenda as amended.
Motion Carried 6-0.
IV. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. COMMISSION MEETING HELD MARCH 21, 2011
MOTION: Muehlberg moved, seconded by McPherson to approve the minutes of
the Heritage Preservation Commission meeting held on March 21, 2011.
Motion carried 6-0.
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V. REPORTS OF COMMISSION AND STAFF
A. UPDATE FROM THE EDEN PRAIRIE HISTORICAL SOCIETY
There was no representative from the Historical Society to give an update.
B. APRIL 19 CITY COUNCIL WORKSHOP - FYI
Kipp stated Kathie Case and Jan Mosman from the Historical Society will be
making a presentation at the April 19th City Council Workshop to inform the
council on the progress which has been made over the past year to the museum
and the Cummins House and to inform them of other upcoming events.
C. LIGHT FIXTURES FOR CUMMINS GRILL HOUSE
Jan Mosman of the Historical Society sent Kipp photos of light fixtures they
wanted to have reviewed by the Commission for installation at the Cummins Grill
House, including a proposed change of one fixture, submitted earlier, with another
submitted tonight.
Gertz talked about the background information of the Historical Society and how
they are trying to put the appropriate lighting back into the house. The idea is to
put the electric lights back into the home representing the 1930's when electricity
was installed into the home. Gertz stated it would be appropriate to encourage
them to use the original light fixtures whenever possible.
The current cast iron fixture which is now in the basement was originally used in
the kitchen. The Historical Society is proposing to use one of the new lights in the
kitchen. The fixture is appropriate for the time period.
The proposed change is from an original two bulb fixture from the Cummins
house to a fixture from the Dorenkemper house matching the dining room and
parlor light fixtures from that era.
Lawler asked why not put the original fixtures from the house back where they
were? Why were new lights purchased? English asked what the commission's
role was tonight in this process. The planning department would issue a statement
based on the comments from the Heritage Preservation Commission on the
appropriateness of the proposed light fixtures. McPherson also asked why the
original fixtures wouldn't be installed if they are available. English wondered who
uses the house and what the purpose was for the lighting. The City of Eden Prairie
owns the house and is leasing the property to the Historical Society. There are
occasions when the house is open to the public for planned events.
Lawler stated if it is known the fixtures are originals from that house in that era, it
should be an obligation to use the original lighting and keep it as historically
accurate as possible. If the standards are applied, it would make sense to use the
original fixtures as they are historical.
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Evert wondered if the commission may be missing something since either
Mosman or Case were present at the meeting for clarification on this subject
because both of them are dedicated to preserving the history of Eden Prairie.
English suggested getting a statement from either of them as to why they want to
change the original fixtures.
VI. NEW BUSINESS
A. STEVE SCHUSSLER- GOODRICH RAMUS BARN
Steve Schussler, the new owner of the Goodrich-Ramus barn arrived at 7:30. He
thanked the commission for inviting him to meet and talk about the barn.
Schussler stated it is a unique structure and it should be kept. He has every
intention of being a good steward of the property and is sensitive of the historic
value of the property.
Schussler has constructed a cover for the silo,replaced all the windows, and some
necessary cleanup work. Additional plans for the property include the installation
of a white fence around the property; add some flowers and trees; add other types
of art to give the barn some life; repair or replace the roof and continue to clean
up the place.
Sometime in the future the plan is to install motion sensitive lights, which comply
with MAC regulations, a security system, as well as spray some foam type
insulation which would serve as a glue to help shore up the sway in the structure.
He would keep the beautiful beans inside visible when doing this work. He would
like to have a nice sign put up along Pioneer Trail to identify the property.
The questions came up if the barn could be open to the public at some point,
however, that would require a sprinkler system to be installed throughout the
building which brings up another issue as water and sewer is not accessible to the
barn as of now. At some point it would need to be extended when there are small
groups of people working in the laboratory. Schussler stated he had no intentions
at this time to have it open to the public.
Schussler stated the original owners of the barn are flying in to meet with him and
share pictures and history of the site.
McPherson thanked Schussler for purchasing the barn and cleaning up the
grounds so history can be preserved. Higgins remarked it is a unique situation
and the city has been supportive. For now the interest is saving the barn, not
having it at historical status. English commented it was a good idea to put up a
sign and a fence.
Higgins excused herself at 8:35pm. Muehlberg presided over the rest of the
meeting.
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VII. OLD BUSINESS
A. HISTORIC PROPERTY CONDITION ASSESSMENT UPDATE
Gertz discussed the updated inventory of the historical properties. He described
the information contained in the document for the two new members, which
includes a description of the properties, year build, best management practices
(BMP's) which provides information on the best approach to hand any changes or
alterations to historical properties. It is the "do's and don'ts" including technical
information which the HPC reviews on a regular basis.
Gertz suggested the best way to get familiar with the properties is to the visit
them. Most are open to the public. Kipp added it may be a good idea to hold one
or two commission meetings per year at one of the historical sites.
McPherson pointed out which properties are on the national register. Gertz
suggested adding Staring Lake Outdoor Center to the list and a BMP should be
added for this property. All City owned, managed and maintained properties are
on the list.
McPherson suggested the commission take pictures of things that are being done
to the historic properties so there is evidence of what is being done. We do not
want to jeopardize the buildings that are on the National Registry.
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: McPherson moved, seconded by Lawler to adjourn the meeting. Motion
carried 5-0. Muehlberg adjourned the meeting at 9:20 p.m