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PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
MONDAY,APRIL 5, 2010 7:00 P.M., CITY CENTER
Council Chambers
8080 Mitchell Road
COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Geri Napuck, Chair; Commissioners: Tom
Bierman, Derek Gunderson, Larry Link (arrived at
8:00 p.m.) and Joan Oko
COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: Hutch Coburn and Lee Elliott-Stoering
STUDENT REPRESENTATIVES: Pranay Rao
COMMISSION STAFF PRESENT: Jay Lotthammer, Parks and Recreation Director
Stu Fox, Parks and Natural Resources Manager
Wendy Sevenich, Community Center Manager
Bob Lanzi, Recreation Coordinator
Nicole Weedman, Recreation Coordinator
RECORDING SECRETARY: Carol Pelzel
I. ROLL CALL/INTRODUCTIONS
The meeting was called to order by Chair Napuck at 7:00 p.m.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Napuck asked that a letter to MAC regarding Flying Cloud Fields be added to the agenda.
Lotthammer said this could be included under VH. Old Business A. MAC Lease Update.
Motion: Oko moved, seconded by Gunderson, to approve the agenda as amended. The
motion carried, 4-0.
III. APPROVAL OF PRNR MINUTES —March 1, 2010
Motion: Oko moved, Gunderson seconded, to approve the March 1, 2010 Parks,
Recreation and Natural Resources Commission meeting minutes as presented. The
motion carried, 4-0.
IV. REPORT OF CITY COUNCIL ACTION
V. REPORT OF PLANNING COMMISSION
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VI. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATION
VII. OLD BUSINESS
A. MAC LEASE UPDATE/LETTER
Lotthammer reported City staff met with MAC to discuss their offer for lease of
Flying Cloud fields. All terms of the negotiations for sale or lease are private
information until a lease or sale occurs. Once the City has actual terms they will bring
this information to this Commission for further consideration and may require a
closed meeting. Lotthammer said MAC has presented some figures and terms for the
City to review and they have also requested guidance regarding commercial
development on that property. The City is interested in a similar or better deal than
what was called out in the 2002 Agreement. He stated City staff will be meeting with
MAC within the next couple of days to review their proposal. If commercial
development occurs on this property, additional costs may be incurred for retaining
walls, grading,piping, etc. and those costs will have to be covered by MAC or the
commercial developer. Lotthammer said the City is not opposed to giving MAC an
opportunity to go through the process of determining if commercial development is
viable but are also not interested in going backwards.
In response to a question from Napuck, Lotthammer explained the City reoriented
MAC's original plan for commercial development that works better for the fields.
Initially, MAC had the frontage on Pioneer Trail and in order to do that the plan
compromised space between the soccer fields and baseball fields. With the City's
proposed orientation, they have a better field layout. MAC seemed to be okay with the
new orientation but is checking with their developer. City staff still needs to get back
to MAC on the land development related items.
Oko expressed concern with the amount of traffic on Mitchell Road especially on a
Sunday morning. She questioned the type of development being proposed for this
area. Lotthammer said it appears to be a gas station type development. He explained
at this point it is only a concept and has not gone through the public process required
for commercial development. Staff is suggesting if they develop this as commercial,
MAC follow the same process as any other commercial developer would.
Napuck questioned if MAC follows the process will that delay the City's ability to
negotiate some final agreement and to do what is necessary to get the land into soccer
fields. Lotthammer answered they would like to put those items on separate tracks.
The City Attorney indicated they could try to do that. The development process would
take several months and the City would like to get their site work started as soon as
possible. If they waited for the commercial development it could take another year
before they could begin the work for the fields. MAC knows how important it is for
the City to move forward with the fields and they should be able to find a way to get
the development and the lease agreement on different tracks. MAC has been very
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responsive in getting back to the City and staff feels they understand the need to keep
moving.
Bierman reviewed the letter drafted by him and Oko to MAC regarding the 2002 Final
Agreement implementation. He said they tried to express the Commission's concern
for MAC's reluctance to implement the Final Agreement in a timely manner. Napuck
thanked Bierman and Oko for their work on the letter and feels the information in the
letter was clearly researched and well written. She asked if this is something they need
to finalize this evening. Lotthammer said he did not think they would have to finalize
it this evening. He said he will share with MAC that a letter has been developed by
this Commission and express their sentiment of urgency in moving forward with this
process. Lotthammer said he would ask City staff to review the numbers included in
the letter, fill in dates, etc. Oko said it is also important to tell MAC this is a greatly
restrained letter.
In response to a question from Gunderson regarding funds available, Lotthammer
explained the City has bond referendum funds for this project and until they go out to
bid they will not know if they have adequate funding. Their estimate for the 2005
referendum was $1.2 million and they currently have approximately $1.3 million
available including interest. Fox explained the original proposal was for two baseball
fields and four other multipurpose fields. They have since cut one field because of the
Pioneer Trail road expansion. Lotthammer said they propose to bid this project in a
way where they can add or deduct items. Depending on how the bids come in they
would do add-ins or deducts and even do it in phases if necessary.
Napuck said she has a couple points she would like included in the proposed letter. It
should be noted that about 75 percent of the Commission members were not on the
Commission at the time the Final Agreement was made. Also, most members of the
City Council were not on the Council when the original agreement was reached but
they are all bound by this agreement just as MAC should be bound by it. The letter
should also state that the Commission would like the lease of this property to go
forward as a separate matter from the commercial development of the property.
Bierman asked if MAC is only open to developing this location for commercial
development or would the City have some other property that could be developed.
Lotthammer responded the City does not have any other property available or own
any that could be traded. Also, Lotthammer said he does not believe there is any other
airport property desirable for them to develop as commercial.
Oko said she believes there are residents who live across the street from this proposed
development that don't want commercial development next to them. There are gas
station owners that all belong to bigger organizations and should community members
not endorse this location for a gas station other stations in the community may be
affected by this. Bierman said there are 25,000 people who are being affected by the
inaction of MAC and they may boycott any business located at this site. Also, City
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staff will take more abuse from the residents and they will question how this all came
about. Bierman said they need to keep the position in the community that whatever
they do; MAC is not getting the entire benefit.
Gunderson said since he has been on the Commission he does not feel any better
towards MAC. The Commission now has to deal with something that should have
been dealt with some time ago. MAC is not following through on an agreement that
has been agreed to. He feels they need to get this done so the Commission can move
on to other business and to use their time more productively.
Oko said this does not only concern the people who use the sports fields but the
taxpayers will be very upset when the City is sitting on $1.3 million waiting for MAC
to honor their part of the bargain. Gunderson asked what would happen with the
money if they do not move forward with this project. Fox said this is something they
would have to ask legal counsel about since the bond referendum passed was for
Flying Cloud fields.
Gunderson suggested they invite a MAC representative to their May or June meeting.
Napuck said this would allow Commission members to ask some important questions
and it would be on public record. Also, if this delay continues and costs go beyond the
funds available from the referendum, MAC should be responsible for those additional
costs. Lotthammer said he would request a MAC representative attend a Commission
meeting to answer questions from MAC's perspective if this issue is not resolved
prior to the Commission's June meeting.
Bierman asked what authority this Commission has if they wanted to attend the full
MAC Commission meeting. Also,he asked if their letter could be sent to the 16
members of the MAC Board rather than to the staff level. He said he wants to be sure
that MAC Board members know that this is a frustrating issue for the City,however,
he does not want to step over bounds and get in the way of what City staff is doing.
Lotthammer said he is not sure how they can address the MAC Board but he will ask
someone on staff. With regard to the letter, staff will make sure the numbers included
in the letter are accurate and comments made this evening by the Commission be
included in the letter. It will be sent back to this Commission as a draft and once
Commission members agree the letter is ready to be sent it will be signed as a
Commission. City staff will let MAC staff know this letter exists and it is the Park
Commission's desire to send this letter to MAC Board members. Lotthammer said
after staff's meeting with MAC on April 13 he will provide the Commission a
summary of that meeting.
(Larry Link, new Commissioner to the Parks Commission arrived during discussion
of this item and introduced himself to the Commission.)
B. MILLER PARK PLAYGROUND UPDATE
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Fox reported staff is in the process of developing plans and specifications for Miller
Park playground improvements. Oko asked if they are still considering using the
rotating play equipment discussed at the last meeting. Fox said they have changed the
design and did remove that equipment from the plans.
VIII. NEW BUSINESS
A. OUTDOOR SKATING RINK UPDATE
Nicole Weedman, Recreation Coordinator, presented the Commission with an
overview of the outdoor skating rinks and sledding hill located at Starring Lake. She
explained there are nine warming house locations and the sledding hill is a 700 foot
hill. Weedman indicated all utilization numbers are up for the rinks with a total of
19,744 participants for the 2009-2010 season. The total expenses for the rink
operating budget was $25,453 and revenue from rentals totaled $459.
Oko said for the cost per skater staff does an incredible job of maintaining these rinks.
Lotthammer explained when they were looking at budget cuts this was one of the
areas they scaled back. The numbers were analyzed and adjustments were made.
B. PARKS AND RECREATION ANNUAL REPORT
Lotthammer distributed the Parks and Recreation Annual Report explaining this
document can also be found on the City's website. As the report indicates,
performance was exceptional across the entire department.
Napuck said Eden Prairie is a beautiful City well managed with an excellent staff.
They did an excellent job even though they had less to work with this year.
C. APPOINTMENT TO COMMITTEES
Lotthammer explained representatives of this Commission serve on the City and
School Facility Use Advisory Committee and the Sports Facilities Committee and the
Commission will need to appoint a member to the City/School Committee and two or
three members to the Sports Facilities Committee. Lotthammer briefly reviewed the
duties of each Committee.
Motion: Motion was made by Oko, seconded by Bierman, to appoint Gunderson to
the City/School Facility use Advisory Committee from April 6, 2010 to May 31,
2011. The motion carried, 5-0.
Motion: Motion was made by Gunderson, seconded by Bierman, to appoint Link,
Elliott-S toering, and/or Coburn to the Sports Facilities Committee from April 6, 2010
to May 31, 2011,pending approval. The motion carried, 5-0.
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IX. REPORTS OF STAFF
A. COMMUNITY CENTER MANAGER
1. Community Center Catering Modification.
Bob Lanzi, Recreation Coordinator, stated staff has established a less-restrictive
catering list for the Community Center and presented an overview of this
program. He indicated staff is recommending the less-restrictive catering list to
expand and enhance food options at a variety of price points and to promote more
flexibility for rental groups. Although they have had over 200 rental groups, they
only had 27 groups that actually fell into the category to be used by one caterer.
Another 20 groups asked to use their own caterers based on ethnic or religious
needs. Lanzi stated many of the groups indicated they did not have 30 participants
so they were not required to use the Community Center's catering list. This
resulted in less revenue for the Community Center but they still had the same
clean up and safety concerns for food as those who were paying for a caterer. Staff
is now proposing a program that is less restrictive and easier to manage. They are
proposing a$40 annual fee for an Eden Prairie caterer and an $80 annual fee for a
non-Eden Prairie caterer. There would no longer be a commission fee paid to the
Community Center by caterers.
Oko asked if they could charge for the clean-up expense. Lanzi responded there
could be some sort of user group fee regardless of which caterer they used.
Sevenich explained right now they are focusing on the caterers. Step 2 will be to
determine what they should charge users. She indicated they will be coming back
to the Commission with the second component of this program which will be a
user fee.
Oko said she feels this proposal is a good idea but questioned why they went to
$40 and $80 rather than to $50 and $100. Lanzi said they were most comfortable
with the $40/$80 fee especially if the caterer used the facility one or two times.
Sevenich said they want to make this an affordable option. Oko said she thinks
they should be charging more in the $50/$100 range. A $50 annual fee for Pizza
Hut or Subway is minimal.
Napuck said she also felt the fee was a little low and agrees a$50/$100 fee would
be appropriate. She does not believe this is a lot for an annual fee to give them the
ability to be on a catering list. Gunderson asked if the annual fee is per location or
vendor. Sevenich said they had not considered that but is something they will look
into.
Bierman said if a caterer only had one event per year the fee may be rather high.
He questioned if they could consider the percentage of sales with a minimum.
Lanzi answered this is something staff is trying to get away from because caterers
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were passing the percentage of sales onto the customers by adding a service fee.
Sevenich explained an annual fee is a lot easier to collect. Bierman said they could
establish this policy and after some time evaluate the program and if staff believes
it is working he could easily go along with the proposal. Napuck said her gut
feeling is the annual fee should be higher but staff would be the best judge for the
amount since they work with this program on a regular basis and if they need to
charge less she is okay with that. Lanzi explained staff's main goal is to have a
less restrictive list of caterers.
Oko said she does have some concern if they were to charge $40 they would need
30 caterers to generate $1,200. Sevenich said she does not see a problem with
charging $50/$100 and is sure they will get 30 caterers to sign up. Gunderson
asked how many one-time vendors they have and if they feel those vendors will
pass the fee onto their customers. Lanzi said he does not believe they will pass
the fee on to the customer like they did the percentage commission.
Bierman said he feels the word "annual" needs to be clarified. He questioned if it
is from January to December or when the first fee for catering is paid. Lanzi
explained annual would be January through December. Lotthammer said it would
be the calendar year making it simpler to track. As they start the program they will
probably pro-rate the fee this year as the program begins in June. Oko
recommended they charge $25/$50 for this year starting in June and then
$50/$100 beginning next year.
Motion: Motion was made by Oko, seconded by Gunderson, to recommend to the
City Council to establish a less-restrictive catering list and begin charging an
annual catering fee to all caterers who provide catering services at the Eden
Prairie Community Center. Annual is defined as January 1 through December 31.
All members present voted aye and the motion carried, 5-0.
FYI: Annual Ice Show —May 7, 8 and 9
B. RECREATION SERVICES MANAGER
FYI: Poetry Night—April 19
FYI: Animal Open House—April 10
C. PARKS AND NATURAL RESOURCES MANAGER
1. Observatory Update
Fox reported construction of the observatory building is on hold at this time. This
is due to the spring thaw but it is anticipated that work will start again within two
weeks.
FYI: Park Clean-Up Day—April 17
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FYI: Arbor Day Walk—May 1
D. PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR
1. Parks and Recreation Work Plan
Lotthammer presented the 2010-11 Work Plan for the entire department. This plan
explains what the Department does on a day-to-day basis. City departments get
together twice a year to review the Work Plan. They meet mid-year to show the
progress of that work and at the end of the year they review the Department's
accomplishments. This report and the Department's annual report shows what has
been done and what they plan to do.
2. Visioninlz Update
Lotthammer explained at a previous Commission meeting it was suggested that a
visioning process would be something that Commission members would be
interested in undertaking. He presented a brief overview of timeline and work
process that incorporates techniques and strategies for forecasting and visioning.
This program would also be of great benefit to staff. Lotthammer asked
Commission members to provide him with comments regarding this process and
staff will refine the document as they move forward.
Bierman challenged Commission members to come up with at least five or seven
visioning ideas.
3. 2010 PRNR Work Plan
Lotthammer briefly reviewed the Commission's work plan explaining the next
meeting will be a joint meeting with the Arts & Culture Commission. Also, the
Board and Commission banquet is scheduled for Wednesday, May 12.
X. NEXT MEETING
The next regular meeting of the Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources Commission is a
joint meeting with the Arts & Culture Commission scheduled for Monday, May 10, 2010
at the Art Center.
X. ADJOURNMENT
Motion: Gunderson moved, seconded by Bierman, to adjourn the meeting. The meeting
was adjourned at 9:15 p.m.