HomeMy WebLinkAboutBudget Advisory Commission - 09/22/2009 APPROVED MINUTES
BUDGET ADVISORY COMMISSION MEETING
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 22, 2009 6:00 P.M., CITY CENTER
Heritage Room
8080 Mitchell Road
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Chair Don Uram, Vice-Chair Rick King;
Commissioners: Annette Agner, Eapen Chacko, Jon
Muilenburg, Richard Proops, Gwen Schultz
CITY STAFF: Sue Kotchevar, Finance Manager; Scott Neal, City
Manager; Tammy Wilson, Finance Supervisor;
Angie Perschnick, Recorder
I. CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL
Chair Uram called the meeting to order at 6:03 p.m. All Commissioners were present
except for King and Chacko, who were not able to attend the meeting.
II. MINUTES
A. BAC MEETING HELD TUESDAY,AUGUST 25th
Chair Uram asked for any additions or corrections to the minutes. Agner clarified
that on page 3 of the minutes, she intended to include Hopkins as just one possible
example of a neighboring community that Eden Prairie could encourage to join
the Community Center or the Art Center. Schultz added the following words in
italics to a statement on page 4 of the minutes: "Schultz said the BAC may not
want to advertise some of its discussions on television due to the nature of the
topics." Muilenburg reworded a sentence on page 4 to read that he said meetings
would become more formal if they were recorded.
MOTION: Schultz moved and Muilenburg seconded to approve the minutes
from the August 25"'meeting. The minutes were approved 5-0.
III. STAFF UPDATES
A. INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY
Lisa Wu presented information relating to the IT departmental budget. The IT
budget includes 7.5 FTE. There are 4 fiber and 13 wireless connections for the
City of Eden Prairie. There are also 19 virtual and 10 physical servers (hardware)
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included in the budget,but some of these may be reduced in the future. The IT
department supports 305 desktops, 114 laptops, 75 printers, copiers and office
jets, 11 scanners, 364 phones, 70 digital cameras, and a number of PDAs. In
August 2007, a study was done regarding the use of LOGIS, and the City plans to
decrease the services they use with LOGIS over time. The City decided to utilize
Ceridian for HR and Payroll going forward, starting in January 2010.
Proops asked about the software that is used, and Wu responded that there is not
one main system supplier for municipal customers. Police and Fire are moving
from five systems into one system provided by New World. Proops wondered if
the liquor stores and finance applications interface, and Wu responded that they
do at this time. Proops inquired as to the reason for the large number of digital
cameras. Wu responded that the police use many digital cameras, and the
assessing function needs them too.
Uram asked about the staffing projections involved in taking applications in-
house. Overall Wu expects that some activities will take less staff time, and the
IT staff members are cross-trained to handle a variety of challenges. The IT
department would like to add a 0.5 FTE if possible to assist with additional
support that may be needed for some applications. Uram asked where the City
can achieve economies of scale and reduce operating costs through technology.
Wu responded that the Department is consolidating services, and most IT staff
can already do multiple tasks involving software and hardware. Many files have
been moved to electronic storage, which allows for easier access and better
service. Scott Neal added both the Building Inspections and Finance areas have
been reduced by one employee during the past year, and these Departments need
to use technology to ensure their work can still be completed.
Proops asked what the IT staff could do to help business streamline if cost were
no objective. Wu replied the IT staff would have more time available to train
other staff members on systems. Additional work could be done electronically in
non-IT areas to help employees be more efficient. Information is currently shared
among departments in an effort to increase productivity,but it would be better if
data entry could be standardized so it will not need to be entered multiple times.
They could use GIS as a centralized database (there would be one central
repository for data files).
Schultz asked if the new 0.5 FTE Wu requested is included in the 2010/2011
budget; that proposed position is not included currently. Neal added the City
expects to reduce Administrative Support in the Fire and Police areas in 2011 at
the earliest, and no staff reductions are included in the current 2010/2011 budget.
B. ASSESSING
Steve Sinell described the activities relating to the budget for the Assessing
division. In addition to 1 City Assessor, there are 5 appraisers, 1 assessing
technician. The division is down three employees from the time of peak new
construction. During the year, there are 14,560 hours for 22,359 parcels, or an
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average of 39 minutes per parcel. The division spends a lot of time on customer
service, mass appraisals and appeals during this time. They analyze sales trends
and data to use in statistical testing. Approximately half of the division's staff
time is spent on customer service and appeals. On average, the City handles
approximately 80 appeals,but there have been 121 filed so far this year. The
Assessing Division works to provide oversight and balance the competing
interests of taxing districts and individual taxpayers. Assessing staff store photos
and sketches for other divisions to use (police, fire,planning, GIS, and LOGIS
maps).
Proops asked if there are opportunities to further use technology in the Assessing
division. Sinell responded there are, and document imaging for tax court appeals
is one are they would like to continue to enhance. Then other departments can
access the data they have. Currently the Assessing division has to rush through
some aspects of their job, and they would like to be able to spend more time on
appeals. Assessing has studied the possibility of moving from LOGIS to another
system,but LOGIS is working well for the City's assessors at this time. In the
future, the City may share a new system with Hennepin County. Muilenburg
asked if the inspections are mostly done on site or by pulling data. The City
follows up on building permits to gather information on changes, and they rely on
a lot of data for mass assessing also.
Agner asked if there are categories of typical customer service FAQs that could
have answers posted on the web or if less trained staff could handle the simple
questions. Some calls are around ten minutes,but most are longer and more
personal than factual in nature. Many property owners call because think their
house value is too high, and the situations are not well defined. Proops suggested
that answers to questions about the link between the value of houses and taxes
could be put in Life on the Prairie (such as why taxes may not decrease when the
value of a house decreases). Sinell responded he has put this information in Life
on the Prairie multiple times and talked to the press.
Schultz asked about affordable housing TIF projects. Since several of these
projects are ready to expire in a few years, Sinell replied they will need to be
assessed so affordable housing can be maintained. Less than three percent of the
tax base involves TIF projects, and the City receives more tax money for
transportation than for TIFs. Janet Jeremiah added that Sinell's budget has taken
a hit, and they are moving to mileage reimbursement and have decreased the size
of the department to decrease spending.
C. CONVERSION TO PTO
Scott Neal stated a significant change to the City's income protection benefits
program took place with the conversion to PTO on July 5, 2009. In 2007, the BAC
suggested the City look into moving to a PTO leave program, and the City Council
concurred with that recommendation. In 2008, HR and Finance staff began the
project. The desired outcomes include improved income protection for employees,
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increased effectiveness for recruiting and ease of management, and reduced long-
term costs of the system. The strategy included open communication about the
change, simulating the current benefit program while making transformations (no
significant losses for employees), and perceived fairness and equity. Although
some employees were very invested in the previous system, overall the new system
was perceived as fair and equitable. According to Minnesota law, in the public
sector, employees have a property right to their sick leave money. One additional
goal for the PTO program was to maintain one set of benefits for all City
employees. They wanted to maintain employee morale and avoid increasing the
potential for unionization so management could maintain a lot of flexibility to
work with staff.
PTO includes holidays, vacation, personal leave, and sick leave. Employees also
have STD and LTD benefits. The Wellness severance incentive has been
discontinued for new employees with the transition to PTO. The average amount
of sick leave used has been granted to all employees in the form of PTO, so the
number employees receive has decreased from 12 to 6 days. Also, there is a limit
to how many PTO hours can be carried over from year to year on the books. The
number of personal leave days remains the same. There is an official STD
program in place now instead of incorporating that into severance accrued sick
leave as was done previously.
Proops asked if funeral leave or personal and vacation leave were part of PTO,
and Neal replied that they are all included in PTO. There are fewer than 500
hours on the books now for long-term employees rather than up to 1400 or 1500
for long career employees under the previous plan. There is no cash value in the
extended illness bank, and the hours are not needed because the illness would
generally be covered under disability leave. The estimated cost savings of the
transition to PTO over the next eight years is between $760,000 and $930,000; in
subsequent years, the estimated savings is approximately $250,000 per year.
Muilenburg asked if there is a provision for paying out sick leave at the rate it was
earned (rather than at the higher retirement/termination rate). Neal said there is
not,but the City did look into this option. The maximum carryover amount is two
times the annual rate, which is the same as before. Muilenburg noted employees
can only carryover forty hours at his company in the private sector, and they work
on a use it or lose it policy for vacation time. Neal added that City employees will
stop accruing more time off after they reach the maximum accrual rate, so it is
similar with a larger carryover amount allowed. If employees did not take time
off starting in their third year of employment, they would stop accruing time off.
In response to a question about whether or not the City could change the rules,
Neal explained that Cities can make their own rules and then the state holds each
City to their rules. There is a new system of rules now and a clean slate, and
managers need to manage to the current PTO system with no exceptions.
Schultz confirmed the City expects to save approximately $100,000 per year on
average for the next eight years. Neal confirmed this but clarified that the amount
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varies by year and is not a constant amount; also, the amount of turnover will
make a difference on the actual number. Schultz asked if the STD cost is netted
out in this number, and Neal replied that it is. Proops added that a benefit of the
PTO system is that City managers do not have to play police on sick or
bereavement leave. Proops also noted the PTO system as it has been set up does
not give as much long-term cash savings as he would have preferred. Neal noted
that the median number of sick days used per year(5.2) is approximately what
was given to employees. For some young parents and caregivers for elderly
family members, this change has had a negative impact since they will be able to
use fewer sick days than they did previously under the PTO system.
The Employers' Association has recognized the City of Eden Prairie's new
income protection benefits program with its HR Best Practices award for 2009.
D. FRANCHISE FEES
Scott Neal initiated informal discussions with an Xcel Energy representative
regarding franchise fees. The City can impose a franchise fee of up to 5%. The
City Attorney told Neal that, as a Plan B City, the City of Eden Prairie does not
have the authority to collect a street light utility. A franchise fee would,however,
be an option for the City. If a franchise fee is particularly inequitable and does
not affect all classes of customers, it can be denied. Currently non-taxpayers end
up not contributing to street light costs. Proops asked how much more money is
realized if non-profit customers are not billed the franchise fee by Xcel Energy for
the City. Neal responded this is not an option since the fee is based on meter
usage. The cost for Eden Prairie schools would be approximately $1500 per year.
Schultz asked about the impact of the franchise fee on other non-profits, and Neal
plans to look into that.
Uram asked about the next steps regarding the franchise fee option. Neal replied
that there was a good conversation at a recent City Council meeting about the best
way to evaluate franchise fee information. Neal will present the information to
City Council and assess their impressions and leanings about the subject. Uram
noted it does not seem franchise fees will generate that much revenue outside of
the current tax base. A lot of heat may be generated from non-profits about the
fee. Neal clarified that no administrative charges would be involved in the
collection process from Xcel Energy. An average franchise fee per customer of
1.32% would generate $875,000 for the City. Muilenburg suggested that the
franchise fee might be a good funding mechanism for the City since they are
losing development revenue. The City could add in earmarks for Police and Fire
divisions from the revenue collected due to the franchise fee.
E. LIQUOR-CUSTOMERS OUTSIDE OF EDEN PRAIRIE
Kotchevar reported 11% of Eden Prairie Wine Club members live outside of Eden
Prairie. There are 1321 Wine Club members overall. 20% of the City-owned
liquor store customers at the Kowalski location are from other communities, as
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are 32% of Den Road location customers, and 25% of the customers at the City
liquor store by Rainbow.
IV. CHAIR AND STAFF ADMINISTRATIVE ITEMS
Proops provided a handout including the many questions he had relating to the budget.
Proops asked about the "Negative net obligation end of year$2,120,896" listed from
2007 for the Volunteer Fire Fighters Relief Association. Kotchevar explained the
number is unrelated to the cash payment that the City has to make; it is shown due to an
accounting standard the City is required to use. The City overfunded FFRA, and that
credit was taken into account when the actuarial study was done. If the City had not
overfunded the plan, their current obligation would be significantly greater than it is.
Proops expressed concern about spending money on the Firefighters' Duty Crew when
the advantage was not obvious to him. It was clarified that, in a medical situation, the
duty crew would respond right away instead of waiting for other firefighters to arrive at
the station. Muilenburg asked why firefighters respond to medical calls. Proops updated
him with the information the BAC received from the Fire division at a recent meeting: a
lot goes on at the scene of a medical emergency, including a need for extra individuals to
perform CPR since it is very labor-intensive and tiring; also, someone needs to take the
person's medical history and possibly help manage an emotional spouse.
Regarding Proops' questions about the allocation of costs to the operational areas,
Kotchevar will prepare answers for the BAC for a future meeting. Regarding Proops'
question about the utility construction fund, Kotchevar explained that this is not a cash
balance fund. Instead, it includes fixed assets and is similar to retained earnings in a for-
profit company. Also, Kotchevar clarified it is not possible to pay off part of the long-
term debt(approximately $50 million) with the "money" (actually mostly fixed assets) in
the utility construction fund.
Schultz would like to see what other cities are doing with their budgets (specifically
Burnsville). Neal responded he has the information available for Burnsville.
Kotchevar noted there is one more meeting for the BAC before their meeting with the City
Council. She wondered how the BAC would like to prepare information or
recommendations for the City Council. On December 15, the City Council will set the tax
levy. Proops asked if the $230,000 severance figures will be reduced in the 2010 or 2011
budget. Kotchevar replied it has not been because savings relating to severance costs will
be realized over time. Employee turnover is what will drive down the costs for severance
over time. Neal added the City still has to book the cash value of paid absences.
V. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting ended at approximately 8:10 p.m. Proops moved and Muilenburg seconded
the motion to adjourn.