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CONSERVATION COMMISSION
TUESDAY,JUNE 9, 2009 7:00 PM, CITY CENTER
Heritage Room I & II
8080 Mitchell Road
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Laura Jester (Chair), Dan Trebil (Vice-Chair), Sue
Brown, Ray Daniels, Ravi Jaiswal, Geneva
MacMillan, Greg Olson
STAFF: Regina Herron, Staff Liaison
Leslie A. Stovring, Environmental Coordinator
Jan Curielli, Recording Secretary
GUESTS: Lin Combs, Eden Prairie Resident
I. CALL TO ORDER/ROLL CALL
Chair Jester called the meeting to order at 7:05 PM.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Jester added Item VII. A. Upcoming City Projects and Development. Stovring added
Item IV.C. Water Rebate Program and Item VIII.B. Goose Management Handout.
MOTION: Olson moved, seconded by Brown, to approve the agenda as amended. Motion
carried 7-0.
III. APPROVAL OF MINUTES
A. Commission Meeting held May 12, 2009
Regarding Item V.A., MacMillan asked if the email summary from the Riley-
Purgatory-Bluff Creek Watershed District meeting on May 5 had been sent to
Commission members as she did not receive it. Stovring said she will send it out.
MOTION: MacMillan moved, seconded by Trebil, to approve the minutes of the
May 12, 2009 meeting as published. Motion carried 5-0, with Olson and Jaiswal
abstaining.
IV. REPORTS FROM STAFF
A. Water Treatment Plant—Watering Status Report
Stovring distributed the Watering Status reports and noted we set a record for
production during the month of May. Every day in May was dry, and some days the
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plant was operating close to full capacity. She said Well No. 15 is now hooked up to
the system.
Olson asked if this is counted by the number of accounts. Stovring said it is based on
overall well pumping for all accounts. Olson said it would be interesting to see a
comparison of the counts by residential and business units. Stovring said it might be
possible to look at the irrigation only accounts because that would catch quite a few
of the commercial accounts,but is unsure how easy it would be to break out such a
comparison.
Jester asked if the rebates for rain sensors are included in the rebate program.
Stovring said they are and that last year we gave out about$2,500 for those.
Jester asked what the City is doing to curb watering on its own property. Stovring
City just completed a property analysis and has converted a few areas on city
property from sod to rock or have stopped mowing. She said there are a number of
sloped areas where mowing was stopped and will be allowed to convert to native
landscaping. Watering for those areas will be cut back as the new vegetation
establishes. Mr. Combs noted the newspaper article also mentioned using those areas
as guidelines for establishing natural lawns in the City. Stovring said the current City
Code states native landscaping areas must have the sod removed before the native
plantings are put in. However, this requirement is waived in certain areas, such as
those with steep slopes. The City focused on steep slope areas for where they
stopped mowing. In addition, the Parks Department is planning on interspersing
plantings within these areas to try and improve the aesthetics.
Jester asked if there have been any other watering cutbacks. Stovring said there
haven't been as yet. She said one problem is that most of our turf grass is blue grass
which is not adapted to Minnesota weather and has to be watered regularly when it is
dry. The City also learned that not all of the newer varieties can go dormant, so the
sod will die if it isn't watered a minimal amount.
Olson asked about using native grasses. Stovring said varieties such as fescue can be
cut shorter than some native grasses and can be incorporated into seed mixes. Jester
asked if we are going to tougher grasses at Staring Lake or Miller Park. Stovring said
we do,but we have to water the playgrounds more because of the heavy use.
We also talked about the rebate program and we plan to continue our education
efforts.
B. Water Treatment Plant—New Rate Structure Requirements
Stovring said the state requires cities of 10,000 or more to put a conservation rate
structure in place. Eden Prairie now has a straight two-tier rate structure. This
includes an extra$1.00 per 1,000 gallons for summer watering and also irrigation
only accounts. She said we have provided our rate structure to the DNR to determine
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if we meet the state requirements for commercial accounts,but residential accounts
do comply.
Brown asked where information about the rate structure and the rebates is available.
Stovring said the information is on the city's web site. Olson asked if the new rate
structure will be announced if needed. Stovring said it will be announced if we have
to change our rates.
Daniels asked how residents would know from the water bill that it is a two-tier rate
structure. Stovring said the conservation surcharge line indicates the account is in the
second tier, so it is a separate line-item. Daniels asked when the second tier would
become effective. Stovring said there is a calculation used, it takes effect for usage 1-
1/2 times winter use (or the city average), and the average base rate is 36,000
gallons.
Jester asked if that is explained on the bill. Stovring said it is not on the bill,but it is
in the utility insert in the spring and also in the new residents' packets as well as on
the web site. She said residents also receive a copy if they get a lawn watering
violation.
Mr. Combs asked if a homeowner can get a waiver. Stovring said they can get an
exemption for watering but not from the surcharge. Jester asked if the exemption is
for new sod. Stovring said that was correct. Daniels asked about filling an in-ground
swimming pool. Stovring said if it takes the homeowner over their baseline they are
charged for it.
Jester asked if last year was the first year on the conservation surcharge. Stovring
said it has been in place since 1998,but the cap was removed from the rate structure
last year. Jester asked if there have been any noticeable differences since the cap was
removed. Stovring said a lot of town home associations and commercial uses did see
a significant impact and have been trying to find ways to cut back usage.
Daniels asked what happens to the money collected from the surcharge. Stovring
said it is part of our water utility revenue. Daniels asked if it is invested in anything
for conservation or restricted for any particular use. Stovring said the conservation
surcharge is part of the water utility, so it can be used for purposes that have to do
with water such as new wells, water utility repairs, running the water plant and water
conservation. Daniels asked if it could be invested in doing rain gardens. Stovring
said we have a small piece set aside for our rebates, but rain gardens are under the
storm water utility.
Olson asked if there is more money coming in than is being spent. Stovring said we
have not had to increase our base rate as much because of it but the city does keep a
close eye on revenue versus spending.
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Jester asked Ms Stovring to send along any information from the meeting with the
DNR for next month's Commission meeting.
C. Water Rebate Program
Stovring said the city is evaluating the water rebates for 2010. She said the budget
for the rebates is $12,500 for appliances and toilets and $2500 for sprinkler system
upgrades. She noted we are looking at modifying the appliance rebates to take off
dishwashers next year because it is difficult to determine water usage for those and
they do not save a significant amount of water. We are also looking at using the
Water-Sense program to determine what qualifies for rebates, including washing
machines, toilets and perhaps faucets. She distributed information about the Water-
Sense products that is sponsored by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency
(EPA). She noted we are leaning towards making those products a requirement for
the rebate program as they test for not only water usage but also product quality and
reliability. For example, there are some faucets coming out that are much more water
efficient than a regular faucet.
Trebil asked if there are any programs or incentives for commercial users. Stovring
said we have always struggled with that. The irrigation system program is for both
residential and commercial, but we have stuck with residential for the rest of the
rebates. She said last year we budgeted $14,500 for the two rebate programs and
gave out$15,450, so we usually go a little over the allocated amount.
Olson asked if the rebate money comes from local taxes. Stovring said it comes from
the water utilities. Olson asked if there is any federal money we could use. Stovring
said we haven't used any, but we are required to have a program in place to conserve
water when we add a new well and this is part of our program to meet that
requirement.
Olson asked why we would not allocate more than $14,000 per year. Stovring said a
large part of it is education because we need long term changes and there are no
plans to increase the budget at this time. She said the changes that have been
implemented have lead to saving approximately 10 million gallons of water over ten
years.
Brown asked how someone would find out about the program. Stovring said the
information is on the website, in city newsletters occasionally and we let the local
vendors know. Timing is the issue for publication however as we never know when
the money will run out. This year for example it ran out in April.
Jester asked if the program changed peoples' decisions. Stovring thought it has
because a lot of people do say they bought water conserving appliances because of
the rebate.
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Brown thought the information regarding what the plant capacity is now and what
we would be able to pump in the future should be incorporated into our water
conservation education efforts to provide an incentive and would have an impact on
how people use water. Olson thought this should be a strategic goal for the long
term. Brown said we should get this message out with the goal because she thought
people want to do the right thing.
Daniels asked if we know at what point this community will have to stop growing
because of the water situation. Stovring said other cities have further restrictions on
how much you can water the lawn, and that would be an alternative if future water
capacity doesn't meet what is the current per capita demand.
Mr. Combs asked if other communities are drawing on the same water table and if
we coordinate what is happening with them. Stovring said it is done through the our
wellhead protection program. Eden Prairie's groundwater well fields and
Minnetonka's do have some overlap.
Jester asked about private wells. Stovring said it is perfectly legal to put one in
because the DNR has few restrictions on residential wells. She said some businesses
such as car washes also have wells.
Jester asked when we will decide on next year's rebates. Stovring said we will make
a decision by the end of the year. Jester asked if the budget for next year has been
set. Stovring said it has. Jester asked Ms Stovring to let Mr. Dietz know the rebates
should be increased or at least stay the same.
V. REPORTS FROM CHAIR
A. Parks Commission—Meeting Topics
Jester said at the last meeting we discussed coming up with a good list of topics we
wanted to discuss with Parks, including what kind of conservation measures we are
taking in the parks with regard to planting and watering and what is happening with
infiltration areas. She asked who will set the agenda for that meeting. Herron said
she will work with Jay Lotthammer to set up the agenda, and they are currently
generating ideas.
Herron distributed a memo summarizing the goose management program and said
the Parks Commission wants to discuss that. Jester asked what they want to discuss
about it. Herron said they want to talk about the goose management program results
and the effect on city parks. Stovring noted the summary shows how many were
captured and how much we spent on the program. Brown asked what the chart says.
Stovring said it shows the number of geese collected in each of the different areas
and the total cost for processing them. Brown asked how they are processed.
Stovring said the adults are sent to food shelves and the goslings go to a nature area
in Anoka.
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MacMillan asked why there was a big difference in numbers for Mitchell Lake and
Miller Park between 2002 and 2008. Stovring said we usually see a decrease in the
number of geese that stay in a location once we are on a site. Overall the number we
have collected has gone down. She noted in 2005-2006 the Purgatory Creek
Recreation Area was seeded so that area experienced a big increase at that time.
Brown asked if geese can also add to water pollution. Stovring said that is why the
program is paid for out of the storm water fund. When the population gets high, the
number of aggressive geese on the site increases, and there are more car accidents.
They are a health threat as well.
Herron said another item to discuss was recycling in the parks and noted Wes
Dunsmore has been involved in implementation. She said Mr. Lotthammer also
talked about having Jenna Fletcher from Embrace Open Space speak at the joint
meeting.
Brown asked what we are doing with the schools. She asked if there are things we
could do to get the community more involved in keeping up some areas. Stovring
thought that was a good idea. Brown said high school students have to get
community service hours, and she thought they could work at places like Mitchell
Lake. We might be able to get all levels of school children out to help.
Mr. Combs asked if the Youth Environmental Activities (YEA) group is active here.
Stovring said she hasn't heard of it. Jester noted we have student commissioners on
the commission and they have not mentioned that. Mr. Combs said YEA had a huge
rally in Washington D.C. Brown said she could look into where they are located. Mr.
Combs said he will email her the names of the Chair and Vice Chair for the
Minnesota YEA.
Jester summarized the list of topics as follows: Schools/Parks partnership, natural
area management, recycling, turf management, native plantings, rain gardens, and
conservation measures in the parks including whether those will increase in the
future.
Brown said it seems like there might be a natural fit for play pumps that are used to
generate energy to pump water in underdeveloped countries. She said each pump
costs $15,000 to sponsor, and she thought it might be interesting to see if there was
some way we could use that to help us make things a little easier. Jaiswal asked how
it works. Brown said it is a piece of whirly equipment placed where children play
and is used in those nations that don't have great access to water. She said it needs to
be near a well or other water source.
MacMillan asked if there are any companies from the U.S. involved in this. Brown
said it is an American company,but it is used in countries that don't have a good
water supply such as in Africa and India. Jester thought we could bring this up with
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the Schools/Parks partnership agenda item and talk about using kids' energy in other
productive ways as well.
Mr. Combs noted the Alliance for Sustainability is another organization and their
website is AFORS.org.
Jester asked if the Embrace Open Space speaker will discuss how they were involved
in the past and how they might be involved in the future and if Eden Prairie is done
purchasing open space. Herron said as property comes through for development
there are often areas that are required to be turned into an outlot. Sometimes the
Parks Department may purchase the property if it is adjacent to a park, or they might
have a conservation easement. She didn't know about the funding. Stovring said we
don't have much left for acquisition,but we are looking for another park area in the
southwest part of the City.
Jester asked how outlots are handled. Herron said outlots can be managed by the city
or private land owner. Jester asked about the area behind her house near Purgatory
Creek. Herron said if it is under City ownership she should contact the Parks and
Recreation Department specifically Stuart Fox. Stovring said the larger ones are
under active management plans but the rest are just left alone.
Brown asked what sort of chemicals we use to help maintain the property and noted
there are ways to do things better and smarter. Stovring said City staff goes to
training sessions with the state every year. She thought discussion of things like corn
gluten could be part of the turf management agenda topic. She said we also have
active management of outlots and conservation areas as an agenda item.
Jester asked if Embrace Open Space is a consortium or a non profit. Herron said she
was not sure. She said the joint packet will be sent out on July 30, so we can keep
this on the agenda for our July meeting.
B. Commercial Recyclins!Initiative
Jester said Ms Stovring sent her information on the Bloomington commercial
recycling ordinance, and she would love to have something like this as part of our
Eden Prairie ordinances so that whenever a property was developed or redeveloped
they would have to recycle. Stovring said they could be required to add recycling
storage at this time. She said there are a lot of properties out there that currently
don't have room for storage of recycling containers, so some grandfathering will
likely be required.
Jester asked about the likelihood of Eden Prairie having this type of code. Stovring
thought it would be fine and we would need to write up a draft section to insert into
our existing code. Ms Herron could provide a copy of our existing code section. We
would also need to talk with Ms Herron about making sure the requirements for the
containers are in there as part of it. Trebil said he would work on a draft. Jester said
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she would send him an electronic copy of the Bloomington ordinance. Jester asked if
he could provide an update at the July meeting, and Mr. Trebil agreed.
Jester asked if there are any other cities that have a commercial recycling code.
Stovring said St. Louis Park and possibly Plymouth and Minnetonka. Jester thought
we should call the different cities to get copies of their code to use as we develop the
draft.
Stovring said we have a new vendor who picks up organics. They are starting with
commercial sites and schools this month but they do hope to expand it. Jester said we
need to have a presentation from them once they get working.
VI. OLD BUSINESS
A. Future Joint Meetings
Herron said she thought probably September or October would be good for a joint
meeting with the Planning Commission. Jester thought October would work well.
B. July 4, 2009 Event Booth
Daniels asked if we got the application in. Stovring said we did. Daniels said he was
not sure what kind of canopy we will be using because Jeff Straite's canopy was
smashed at the plant sale. He will contact Jeff to see if he has replaced it. Stovring
said we would have money in the budget if we need to rent a tent. Jester asked Mr.
Daniels if he was planning to be there the whole day. Daniels said he will but invited
others to come and join him. Jester suggested anyone who wants to help should
contact Mr. Daniels.
Daniels said he has a lot of materials but needs to work out some things. MacMillan
asked about the big display board. Daniels said he has to solve that and figure out
some way that we can put up boards and have them stay up in the wind. He said he
would like to get more copies of the Hennepin County booklet on rain gardens. Jester
said she has copies of the Dakota County booklet but Hennepin County's would be
more appropriate.
VII. NEW BUSINESS
A. Upcoming City Projects and Development
Jester said she would like to keep this as an ongoing agenda item.
Herron said the Planning Division sends out a project profile to the Planning
Commission and City Council regarding upcoming, tabled or ongoing projects. She
said she will attach that to the Commission packets.
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Jester thought that would be great and asked if it is updated regularly. Herron said
staff updates it weekly.
VIII. INFORMATIONAL MATERIALS /HANDOUTS/COMMUNICATIONS
IX. UPCOMING EVENTS
A. Eden Prairie Clean Up—Saturday,June 21, 2009
B. Rain Barrel Workshop—June 27, 2009 at Staring Lake Outdoor Center
C. Go Green with a Splash Party Weekend (Waterosity) — Saturday & Sunday,
July 11 & 12, 2009 from 11 am—3 pm at the Landscape Arboretum
Jester said she could be there from 11:00 to 3:00 on Sunday, July 12, and could help
with set up on Saturday. MacMillan said she could help on Saturday from 11:00 to
3:00. Daniels said he could be there on Saturday.
Daniels asked if we have decided on a topic. Jester asked if it would make sense to
have information on the water rebate and the water usage chart. She asked if there
will be a booth on rain barrels. Stovring said she didn't know.
Jester noted we have both days covered and asked what the booth should consist of.
Stovring said we could have information regarding the water program, native plant
landscaping, the rebate program, rain gardens, shore land restoration work, irrigation
rebates and books on water conservation.
Jester said she didn't want to duplicate with other booths. Stovring said we have art
work from the Environmental Learning Center we could put in the booth that
describes how much water you can save and also about buying local.
Jester asked if the booths will be outside or inside. Stovring thought that information
should be on the application. Jester said we need to know that and also what time we
can set up.
Jester said some of the displays at the Arboretum are a lot like the water plant. She
said she will contact the Arboretum and ask these questions and then email the
information to Ms MacMillan and Mr. Daniels.
D. Parks, Recreation & Natural Resources Joint Meeting—August 3, 2009 (This
will be in place of our regular August meeting)
X. NEXT MEETING
A. July 14, 2009
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XI. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Daniels moved, seconded by Olson, to adjourn the meeting. Motion carried 7-
0. Chair Jester adjourned the meeting at 8:35 PM.