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EDEN PRAIRIE CITY COUNCIL MEETING
TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 1, 2009 7:00 PM, CITY CENTER
Council Chamber
8080 Mitchell Road
CITY COUNCIL: Mayor Phil Young, Council Members Brad Aho, Ron Case, Jon Duckstad and
Kathy Nelson
CITY STAFF: City Manager Scott Neal, Parks & Recreation Director Jay Lotthammer, Public
Works Director Eugene Dietz, Community Development Director Janet Jeremiah, City Attorney
Ric Rosow and Council Recorder Jan Curielli
I. ROLL CALL/CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER
Mayor Young called the meeting to order at 7:11 PM after the HRA meeting was
adjourned. All Council Members were present.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA AND OTHER ITEMS OF BUSINESS
MOTION: Case moved, seconded by Duckstad, to approve the agenda as published.
Motion carried 5-0.
III. PROCLAMATIONS/PRESENTATIONS
IV. MINUTES
A. COUNCIL WORKSHOP HELD TUESDAY,AUGUST 18, 2009
MOTION: Duckstad moved, seconded by Aho, to approve the minutes of the City
Council Workshop held Tuesday, August 18, 2009, as published. Motion carried 5-
0.
B. CITY COUNCIL MEETING HELD TUESDAY,AUGUST 18, 2009
MOTION: Case moved, seconded by Nelson, to approve the minutes of the City
Council Meeting held Tuesday, August 18, 2009, as published. Motion carried 5-
0.
V. REPORTS OF ADVISORY BOARDS & COMMISSIONS
VI. CONSENT CALENDAR
A. CLERK'S LICENSE LIST
B. DECLARE OBSOLETE COMPUTER EQUIPMENT AS SURPLUS
C. AUTHORIZE STAFF TO SUBMIT A WINTER TRAIL ACTIVITIES
PERMIT APPLICATION TO THREE RIVERS PARK DISTRICT FOR
2009-2010
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D. ADOPT RESOLUTION 2009-54 AMENDING OFFICIAL MEETING
DATES FOR THE CITY COUNCIL IN 2009
E. APPROVE PURCHASE AGREEMENT WITH INTEGRA TELECOM
F. AWARD CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT FOR IT REMODEL PROJECT
TO DORAN CONSTRUCTION
G. AWARD CONTRACT FOR TRAIL RECONSTRUCTION ON DUCK LAKE
TRAIL, VALLEY VIEW ROAD AND EDENVALE BLVD. TO BITUMINOUS
ROADWAY INC.
H. APPROVE CDBG AFFORDABLE HOUSING GRANT AGREEMENT
BETWEEN CITY AND CITY HILL FELLOWSHIP CHURCH
Duckstad asked if there is a basis to delay the two projects for Items F and G given
the state of the economy. Neal said he believes it is important to proceed with those
two projects. He noted we have discussed the possibility of not going forward with
some projects, and there are over $1,000,000 of capital projects we have postponed
until 2011 and 1012. He said Item F is the remodeling of the old PROP space to
consolidate the IT staff and operations into one area. Item G is a $68,000 contract
to reconstruct some of the worst quality trail sections in the City which fits well
under our duty to maintain the public assets.
MOTION: Duckstad moved, seconded by Aho, to approve Items A-H on the
Consent Calendar. Motion carried 5-0.
VII. PUBLIC HEARINGS/MEETINGS
VIII. PAYMENT OF CLAIMS
MOTION: Nelson moved, seconded by Duckstad, to approve the Payment of Claims as
submitted.
Neal noted there were no Payment of Claims included in the agenda for the August 18
meeting so there is a double version on tonight's agenda.
VOTE ON THE MOTION: Motion was approved on a roll call vote, with Aho, Case,
Duckstad, Nelson and Young voting "aye."
IX. ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS
A. RESOLUTION NO. 2009-55 IDENTIFYING NEED FOR LIVABLE
COMMUNITIES DEMONSTRATION ACCOUNT FUNDING
Neal said staff requests authorization to submit an application to the Livable
Communities Demonstration Account (LCDA) on behalf of Presbyterian Homes
for $838,300.00. The money would be used to help pay for street improvements to
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Castlemoor Drive, a storm water pond, and a rainwater garden. The LCDA is
funded by the Metropolitan Council. The purpose of this account is to provide
funds to support development and redevelopment projects that connect
development with transit, intensify land uses, connect housing and employment,
provide a mix of housing affordability, and/or provide infrastructure to connect
communities and attract investment. There is approximately $4,000,000.00 in the
account.
Duckstad asked if this award grant comes with any strings attached. Jeremiah said
there are certain requirements of the Met Council with regard to meeting certain
affordable housing requirements. She said we have already accepted those terms in
general which makes us eligible to apply for these grants. There would be no
additional requirements except that the project needs to be started within two years
of the grant.
MOTION: Case moved, seconded by Nelson, to adopt Resolution No. 2009-55
identifying a need for Livable Communities Demonstration Account funding and
authorizing an application for grant funds. Motion carried 5-0.
X. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS
XI. APPOINTMENTS
XII. REPORTS
A. REPORTS OF COUNCIL MEMBERS
B. REPORTS OF CITY MANAGER
1. Prairie View Liquor Store Lease
Neal said when the Council met to discuss this on August 18, staff
presented two options: to stay in the current location with about 4200
square feet; or to move to a new location with about 9500 square feet in the
same mall. The Council expressed some concern about the magnitude of
going from 4200 square feet to 9500 square feet. There was also some
concern about the competitiveness of the proposed rents, the certainty of
our revenue forecasts and how much the City would pay for the
improvements to the new space.
Neal said the Council asked staff to consider a smaller footprint in the
proposed Snyder's location, to get a renegotiated proposal for the lease
extension to stay in the current location, to get some information on rental
rates and to see a set of clear forecasted financials for each option. He noted
he advised the Council that staff would be working on the information
requested until the last minute. He said the information is in front of the
Council tonight, with some of it in the form of an analysis by Jim McComb
of the McComb Group that details seven options. We have five new
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proposals to consider in addition to the two from the last meeting. He said
the information also has a summary of Mr. McComb's services and
qualifications. He also distributed a set of real estate comparables that the
Colliers firm put together and the three store layout plans with the square
footage for each one.
Neal said he wanted to acknowledge Council Member Aho's wise counsel
on this matter. Council Member Aho worked with staff and produced a
spreadsheet showing some number comparisons of the current lease and
four of the other options. He asked Council Member Aho to give a
description of what he put together. Aho said in the spreadsheet he tried to
analyze the vast amount of good data we had and to boil it down somewhat.
He said the first column is the current lease followed by all of the ten year
lease options in order of size. He put the projected operating income
numbers for each of the scenarios below it.
Duckstad noted the spreadsheet Council Member Aho provided shows the
numbers for the options for ten year leases. He said in the material the City
Manager provided there was another option for a five-year lease at the
existing location. He asked if the rate for that would change from the $21.50
rate. Aho said he thought it was at a higher rate, and in his spreadsheet he
was trying to look at the lowest rates in order to simplify the material and
make it easier to compare the rates.
Duckstad asked if a five year lease was possible for the existing store at the
same rate. Neal said Table 8 in the larger set of information has a summary
of the seven proposals. There are two proposals that envision staying in the
current space, one for five years and the other for ten years, and both are at
$21.50 per square foot.
Case thanked Council Member Aho for preparing the spreadsheet. He said
he believes we should move to the Snyder's store and that we should go
with the 9500 square feet; however, he would be willing to move down to
the 8000 square foot store if necessary. He noted Council Member Aho at
some point made the comment that the rent amount is an actual number but
the income is projected. He said if you look at comparing the 8000 spare
feet to the 9500 square feet, the rent over ten years is about $77,000 higher
but the projected income is quite a bit more, so even if only 27% of the
projected earnings come through we would break even. He thought it is a
good guess that we would be better off with the 9500 square feet.
Aho said he realized staff spent a lot of time looking at this prior to the time
it came to the Council. He has done a lot of talking to people in the
industry, and what he has heard is that wine sales are the way to go in this
current market. He thought increasing the size of the store and also
changing the nature of the layout to improve the overall look and feel will
result in an increase in sales. He said Mr. McComb has done a lot of work
to come up with these projections, but it is hard to say if they will bear out
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in the current economy. We need to look at the situation as a whole to see
what makes sense. He said he concluded the 8000 square foot space is
pretty much the same size as one of our other existing stores. It has the right
feel in terms of sizing, and if you look at the total amount of rent, the rent is
the lowest of all the scenarios. He said if this were his business he would
look at it and say for a small additional amount of rent per year, we will
make more in increased sales. He did not think we are here to discuss
whether the City should be involved in the liquor stores. He thought the
current store does need some improvements, and he thought it really makes
good fiscal sense to go to the 8000 square foot store.
Duckstad thought we have to look at this in terms of all the facts that apply
to this issue. It was his understanding that if we made the change from the
existing store to a larger space, we would be spending about $300,000 or
more to retrofit the building. We have already increased the size of our
other two stores. He agreed it probably would generate more wine sales if
we enlarge this store; however, he was not sure if wouldn't just take sales
away from the other two stores. He was not persuaded the change is in the
best interest of taxpayers in the long run.
Nelson said she concurred with Council Member Aho that it is only a small
amount of increase in rent and it is a definite increase in sales. She has said
all along that we need to do something about the current store. She thought
this has turned out to be a good proposal, and she could support the 8000
square foot store.
Neal said he saw the same thing as Council Member Case did, that the
comparison of staying in the existing store for ten years or moving to a
larger store shows by moving our rent expense actually goes down and our
revenue goes up. Regarding Council Members Duckstad's question about
whether we take sales away from the other stores, he said we asked Mr.
McComb to look at that. Mr. McComb believes this is a business that has a
great capacity to grow, and the trajectory in the liquor business is going up.
It does have risk associated with it and if there is concern about that risk,
the 8000 square foot store can perform at a high level.
Duckstad asked how many additional employees would be hired to maintain
the store in the event the City increases the size of the existing store to 9500
square feet. Kotchevar said the budget for staff at the liquor stores is
projected at 8-10% of sales, and we would not immediately increase
staffing. Duckstad asked if we added any additional employees at the first
two stores when they were enlarged. Neal said our staffing models for
liquor stores is such that we have a relatively few number of fulltime
employees and a large number of part time employees.
Young said he thought the City Council ultimately will make an imperfect
decision because there are imperfect choices before us. The projections for
revenue are just projections. The history of our three stores is that sales tend
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to increase, but the sales at the Den Road store did not increase by a
materially greater amount than in the past. He still has not received an
explanation of why the wine sales would be different at this store. He said
he originally pulled this material from the Consent Calendar because he was
struck by the proposed lease terms in the current space and he got the sense
that we were getting pushed out of the existing store. We negotiated a lease
for $16.50 a year ago, and now in a worse economy we renew at $21.50,
and he couldn't ignore that. The only definite we have if we move is an
improvement fee of $390,000, and he didn't think that figure was capped.
He said he has not heard anything materially different tonight so he did not
think the case has been made. He said part of the function of this is timing,
and he thought we should have had this discussion four months ago. He
didn't think we necessarily have to be located close to a grocery store and
he was not sure we couldn't just close the store.
MOTION: Case moved, seconded by Nelson, to authorize the Mayor and
City Manager to execute final lease documents for Option 6 for 8000 square
feet of space for a ten year lease. Motion carried 3-2-0 with Duckstad and
Young opposed.
2. Baker Associates Agreement
Neal said the contract with Baker Associates is somewhat impacted by the
actual square footage of the store, so staff would ask that this item be
delayed. Staff will bring back the agreement to the September 15 City
Council meeting.
3. Resolution No. 2009-56 Certifying Proposed 2010 Property Tax Levy,
Accepting Proposed 2010 Budget, Setting Public Hearing Date &
Consenting and Approving the HRA Tax Levy
Neal said Minnesota law and administration rules prescribe a detailed
process for public notification and participation in setting taxes and budgets
of local governments. Cities must adopt a proposed net property tax levy
by September 15 and certify it to the county auditor. In addition, the City
Council must accept a proposed budget for the coming year. In the past the
City set a date for the "Truth-in-Taxation" hearing and a date to reconvene
it (if necessary). The 2009 statute was changed which eliminates the
mandated truth-in-taxation hearing requirement. The City must announce at
this Council meeting the future time and date of the regularly scheduled
meetings at which the budget and levy will be discussed and public
testimony taken. Earlier tonight in the Consent Calendar we changed our
meeting from November 30 to December 1. The Council must adopt the
final tax levy and budget by December 15. He said Minnesota law
authorizes the HRA to levy a tax with the consent of the City Council and
this resolution also gives the consent for the HRA levy.
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Duckstad said in order to clarify, this is not a final levy but it caps the
maximum the levy could be, with a later final determination of what the
levy will be. Neal said that is true and this is the maximum levy for 2010.
We can make the number lower but we can't make it any higher. Neal noted
the only items in the staff proposal for the 2010 budget over and above the
2009 budget are a duty crew initiative for the Fire Department and a
mandatory funding for the Fire Pension Relief system. He said most items
are actually below what was spent this year.
MOTION: Aho moved, seconded by Nelson to adopt Resolution No.
2009-56 that certifies the proposed 2010 property tax levy to be
$32,751,059; and sets December 1, 2009 as the meeting which will include
discussion of the budget and provide for public comment; and accepts the
proposed 2010 budget of$41,052,045; and consents and approves the HRA
tax levy of$200,000.
Case said he planned to vote against this because he thought this levy limit
produces a budget that results in a projected $2,000,000 gap between
revenue and expenditures by 2012 and that would require a 6% tax increase
for 2013 just to stay even. He thought our residents deserve a more honest
budget that says we can't just use savings to work our way through this
crisis.
Young thought that is a fair comment, and he thought the Council is going
to be engaged in work that has implications for the upcoming year's budget
and beyond that time. He thought our long term objective needs to be to not
put the City in the position where future City Councils need to put in a tax
increase.
Duckstad said he did not think the levy is going to be this amount at all. We
will have an opportunity to discuss the full implication of our levy and our
line item budget, so he thought the taxpayers will have an opportunity to see
what we are going to do and fully discuss this budget.
Nelson said she thought a zero increase or close to that is where we have to
go for this coming year, given the economy and the fact this is simply the
2010 budget.
Aho said this is only a maximum cap so he thought we have the opportunity
to look at ways to decrease this. He thought there is no reason to not support
it unless you want to go above this amount.
VOTE ON THE MOTION: Motion carried 4-1-0, with Case opposed.
C. REPORT OF THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR
D. REPORT OF PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR
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1. outlot Management
Lotthammer said the Council asked staff to review our approach and
treatment of outlots in the City. He showed examples of some outlots and
noted most of the time the land is in a natural state when we receive it.
From a maintenance standpoint, most times we have left it alone in the
natural state. Land not accepted as park land is generally treated as an
outlot. He showed a map of the outlot that prompted this discussion. He
noted it was evident from the map why it is not developable, and that is
generally how we come to be owners of this type of land. Per direction from
previous City Councils, as part of our park philosophy we have taken the
approach that the line is the line. We have given notification if there is
something on the City property that will have to be moved off. Almost all of
these outlots are in a natural area and we haven't gone in and mowed them.
We will remove diseased trees or treat noxious weeds, but in most cases it
isn't a billable situation.
Case said he has never advocated in the slightest for getting rid of any City
park or City-owned lands. He asked if there are possibly some outlots that
we have inherited by default from an association that fell apart in which we
have no interest and that may, under the original deed arrangements, be
available for us to divest ourselves of. He thought if we could develop some
kind of a process whereby a neighborhood could come to the City and
petition to buy an outlot, that would put the property back on the tax rolls.
He thought there are probably many such outlots out there, and he was
wondering if there isn't the need for some mechanism to help residents with
the process.
Lotthammer said he would probably defer part of this question to City
Attorney Rosow, but there are a couple of cases where we have received
some remnant property due to tax forfeiture. Those are usually quite small
or not buildable. There was an association that did go defunct that had six or
seven homes surrounding the outlot. If those six or seven neighbors were to
band together, the difficulty would be the type of agreement we would need
to ensure that going forward all six or seven of them would continue the
maintenance.
Case said he was suggesting the possibility we actually sell the land to
them. He was looking for a win/win situation to get some cost savings for
us, get some liability away from the City, and also get additional tax
revenue.
Young commented he thought the only certainty in that regard would be a
lot more work for Mr. Rosow.
Case said he was suggesting it would only be under the situation where a
particular group of residents and neighbors come to us and we might have a
process where they could do the legal due diligence.
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Lotthammer didn't think such a scenario is that far off because about three
years ago a group of residents came to the Council and asked to purchase
land between their homes and a trail. We had asked them to stop mowing up
to the trail. Young said he also recalled a group that came before us and
wanted to make a lakeshore property. He thought we probably could never
put together a policy that would capture what we want to capture, and he
didn't know where to stop such a discussion once we start it.
Case said he would like to have Park and Recreation go over what has been
done historically on outlots. We may find there may be clear delineation on
certain types of outlots and it may be an easier task to develop a type of
process whereby neighbors can bring forth their concerns. He thought it is
important that the good of all gets protected, and it might benefit the good
of all of us if we were to divest ourselves of some property we don't get
benefit from. He thought it was worth pursuing the discussion.
Neal said we have entertained proposals in the past, so he thought there is
the opportunity for folks to approach us and talk about a particular situation.
The details of the individual outlot will control what options are available to
the Council. He didn't think an overt public information campaign is
necessary, but we do get these requests occasionally and if there is some
discretion at the Council level, staff would refer it to the City Council.
Young said he would never discourage a group of residents that have a
concern or interest in a particular property from coming before the Council.
E. REPORT OF PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR
F. REPORT OF POLICE CHIEF
1. Homeland Security Grant
Police Chief Reynolds said the City of Eden Prairie has been awarded a
2008 Homeland Security Grant for the amount of$86,700, and he was here
to ask the Council to accept the grant. The grant will be used to fund a part-
time contracted employee with MN Joint Analysis Center (MNJAC). He
said this is the fourth time we have brought this before the City Council and
with this grant we should be able to fund the position through the first
quarter of 2011. At that time we would hope to have another grant available
to continue funding.
Duckstad asked how long the grant would provide payment for the position.
Chief Reynolds said it will take us through March of 2011. Duckstad asked
if, in the event there isn't a further grant available, there is a possibility the
part time employee would continue to be funded with the City. Chief
Reynolds said the position is dependent on grant funding so the position
would go away if there was no grant money.
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Aho asked for a brief synopsis of the duties for this position. Reynolds said
the job is to gather and analyze data that comes to the MNJAC regional
fusion center. The team takes a look at the information and determines
where the information has to go. The function of the MNJAC is to collect,
de-conflict and feed back out the information they get. It is part of the
Homeland Security plan to set up Joint Analysis Centers in the different
regions.
Neal said it is important to know that Chief Reynolds has been a leader in
assisting the MNJAC with this intelligence gathering initiative. We are
more able to act quickly if we have this employee under our employment
umbrella. We are in the front lines in terms of knowing intelligence that is
valuable in the public safety of the community.
Nelson thanked Chief Reynolds for continuing to go after these grants
because it keeps the City safer.
MOTION: Nelson moved, seconded by Aho, to accept the 2008 Homeland
Security Grant for the amount of$86,700. Motion carried 5-0.
G. REPORT OF FIRE CHIEF
H. REPORT OF CITY ATTORNEY
XIII. OTHER BUSINESS
XIV. ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Duckstad moved, seconded by Nelson, to adjourn the meeting. Motion
carried 5-0. Mayor Young adjourned the meeting at 8:15 PM.