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HomeMy WebLinkAboutParks and Recreation - 04/16/1984 1984 APRIL 16 MINUTES CITY OF EDEN PRAIRIE J AGENDA i EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION `- .10NDAY, APRIL 16, 1984 7:30 P.M., SCHOOL BOARD MEETING ROOM ! COMMISSION MEMBERS: Marty Jessen, chairperson; Raiford Baker, Pat Breitenstein, Moe Cook, Gary Gonyea, Jerry Kingrey, Jesse Schwartz COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services Approx. Time to Begin Item 7:30 I. ROLL CALL II . APPROVAL OF AGENDA III . APPROVAL OF MINUTES MARCH 19, 1984 IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS None V. RECOMMENDATIONS AND REPORTS A. Reports of Commissioners 7:35 1 . Homeward Hills Area Residents Requests - Jessen B. Reports of Staff 1 . Development Proposals 7:40 a. Hidden Glen II 8:00 2. Arbor Day Program 8:05 3. Community Center Report 8:10 4 . 1983 Annual Report 8 :15 S. Council Report of March 20, April 3 VI . OLD BUSINESS 8 :20 A. MAC Recreation Area 8 :25 B. Eden Prairie Horsemen's Request 8:45 C. Homeward Hills Park Plan F VII. NEW BUSINESS 1�8 :50 A. Staring Lake Park Playstructure - Phase I 9:15 B. Summe•r Recreation Programs i 9:35 VIII. ADJOURNMENT I ! "'APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION, AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION Monday, April 16, 1984 7: 30 P.M. , School Board Room COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Marty Jessen, chairperson; Pat Breitenstein, Moe Cook:, Gary Gonyea, Jerry Kingrey C01"!YIISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: Raiford Baker and Jesse Schwartz CO;)MISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services OTHERS PRESENT: Cris Fleck, Charles Pappas, Community Center Manager; and Sandra Werts , Recreation Supervisor -r I. ROLL CALL The meeting was called to order at 7:35 p.m. by chairperson, Marty Jessen. II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA Kingrey added item VI D - Preserve Liquor Store. . MOTION: Breitenstein moved to approve the agenda as amended. Gonyea seconded the motion and it carried unanimou.tly. III. APPROVAL OF 1•11IRTTES OF MARCH 19, 1984 MOTION: Breitenstein moved to approve the minutes as published. Cook seconded the motion and it carried. Gonyea and Kingrey abstained. IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS, AND 001-PMUNICATIONS NONE V. RECOMI!ENDITIONS AND REPORTS A. Reports of Commissioilers 1 . Homeward Hills Area Residents Requests . - Jessen Jes:,en informed the Commission that he and Lambert met with Jim Ostcnson and tiiu other representatives of the Homo and Hillo area. This meeting; teas regarding the status of the Ho:_-iowurd Hills park development -and the pendiri;; hind dedication from BPI . The meeting iias f succoosful in ansverin.- the :najority of their que-stions - `-_ Jc��::r�►� nlco said thrt tlh:r;y tnikod about a couple of tot, lots that woro dedi.e:_0.(rcl thero a lon;; time n;;o. L.a,rbort find C:alhoon L;nve t hern some ideas for development. +. Ti►� C;o�nmi.::::ion iu ruol'r !1W liti►i the coiisens►is of the noir h!»rhuod on hot. they wutil�l 1i.kc tlio::e tot 1otc, developed . Parks, Recreation, and Natural Resources Commission April 16. 1984 2 B. Reports of Staff °' 1. Development Proposals a. Hidden Glen II Refer to memo dated April 11 , 1984 from Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services and Staff report dated April 6, 1984 from Michael Franzen, Senior Planner. Lambert stated that Hidden Glen II was first brought to this Commission last summer. It is located in the northwest part of the City. Dick Ferrick and Richard Bloom were present to give a breif history of the development and to explain •the present plans. Ferrick stated that Hidden Glen received its initial concept approval. from the City last year. Bloom presented the present plans. He stated that Hidden Glen II has received initial plat approval from the Planning Commission. The plans now include taking the first phase of 64 lots and adding 31 lots to that. The first phase of development would then include 95 .1ots and would include grading for the park as per the plan. Therd has been discussion with the Planning Commission regarding sidewalks, bikeways , the park area, and the construction of Dell Road. There has been a request for an additional sidewalk along street C, beleiving that the area would experience a fair amount of development activity. Bloom stated that out of the 20 acre parcel only 3 to 4 acres are developable. The rest is floodplain area. Bloom said that Derrick Laird Company does not expect a lot of additional units to be built in that area. Bloom did ask for that requirement to be waived. Bloom also said that he feels there is a fairly extensive pedestrian and bikeway system currently invisioned . Ferrick and Bloom tried to clarify the plans for Commission members. They showed on their plans exactly where streets , sidewalks, and bikeways ifill be. y Kingrey commented that lie did fool therc ►could be a lot of pedestrian, bicycle, and auto traffic on Dell Road. T Parks, Recreation, and Natural Resources Commission April 16, 1984 - 3 - Kingrey also stated that the City should share the cost of the bituminus trail along the west side of proposed Dell Road. Lambert stated that could be a possibility. Jessen commented that the City is getting a lot of park frontage from this project and agreed that the City should share the cost of the trail., MOTION: Kingrey moved to recommend approval of --laden Glen II as per the Staff Report with lthe following amendments: 1 . The City should not require a sidewalk on C Street. 2. The City should participate in the construction of the bituminus bicycle trail on the south and west side of Dell .Road in this phase of development. It should be to the extent that the proponent would grade and create an acceptable to staff bicycle path base and the City would lay the surface. 3. Outlot 13 should be dedicated to the City in the third phase of development. Breitenstein seconded the motion and it carried - unanimously. �- 2. Arbor Day Program Refer to memo dated April 12, 1984 from Stuart Fox, City Forester. This is an information item. 3. Community Center Report Refer to March Monthly Activity and Operational Update. This is an information item. Cook inquired as to what has been done in regard to ceiling that fell down. Lambert answered that they have met with the contractor, architect, and their attorneys. All the papers have been filed. 4. 1983 Annual Report This Is a Staff tool that is used often. It can be used to answer questions easily. 5. Council Report of March 27, April 3 Lambert: stated that at the March 27th meeting, the Council approved the bid from Custom Surfacing for $38,46 ) to do the trail development: at Staring Lake f'ark. They also ay)proved the I-ive Year Ctipital Improvemorit Program. They also approved Parks, Recreation, and Natural Resources Commission April 16, 1984 4 - the Bryant Lake Surface Water Use Ordinance. r That now has gone to the DNR for approval. On Community Education and Recreation Duplication, the Council has directed Staff to contact the Superintendent to present the proposal to the School Board for their reaction. The Council felt it should be a two part question. The staff question is a separate issue and should be addressed by the City Manager. The question that should be addressed is whether the City or the School should be doing those kind of programs. It has now been fowarded to the Community Education Advisory Council and they will make recommendation to the School Board. The Council also approved the plans for the North Stars addition. They will be breaking ground around May 1, 1984. The Council reviewed the Purgatory Creek Recreation Area Draft raster Plan. They put it on hold until their next meeting. The Council also approved the Tax Forfeit Lands List. At the April 3, 1984 Council meeting, there was nothing 4 ;; related to this Commission. VI . OLD BUSINESS A. MAC Recreation Area Refer to memo dated April 11 , 1984 from Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services. This is in the process of being approved by the Metropolita.n ,Airports Commission. . B. Eden Prairie Ljorsemen' s Request Refer to memo dated April 11 , 1984 .frogi Bob Lambert. A letter has been submitted to the City from Kurt Cole , vice-president of the Eden Prairie Horsemen, regarding their Club proposal to use airport property for a riding ring. Lambert stated that it looks as though the ridinL, ring proposal will be approved by the Metropolitan Airports Commission. So the questions we should be asking -now are what are the costs involved? j Who should fund those costa? and Who are we serving? Refer to the memo for proposed costs . Representatives from the Club have informed Staff that a gravel parking lot would not be neccesary. There were a number of members of the Club present. Kurt Cole, Vice-President and the President informed usVF; of their intention; to help with providing materials , f►.indin , and lc,bor. They are also willin- to take care of the mainl oilance of the ring. Parks, Recreation, and Natural Resources Commission April 16, 1984 5 I The main concern of the Commission was that the ring would be properly maintained as it will be very visible. Members of the Commission agreed that this could be a real asset to the community. Lambert informed the Commission that the lease can be terminated on a 90 day notice and tht-ct is also something to consider. Kingrey stated that shows should not be held when the ground is extremely wet. Jessen agreed. Cook inquired as to how many members are in the Club. The President answered that there are 55 family memberships. Lambert reminded the Club members that this would be a public facility to be enjoyed by all interested parties. NOTION: Breitenstein moved that the Commission approve . e E en Prairie Horsemen' s Request. The Club should work closely with the City. The Club will be responsible for constructing the fencing and all maintenance. Kingrey seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. C. Homeward Hills Park Plan Lambert stated that the City presently owns 15 acres In this area and are waiting for the deed from Browning Ferris Industries for the remainder of the land for the park. . Refer to memo dated April 11 , 1984 from Bob Lambert, Director of Uommunity Services. Lambert explained the park plans. Kingrey expressed concern for the safety of the skaters on this type of hockey and skating rink. Lambert disagreed. This will be discussed at a later date, when the time comes to actually put in the rink. This is an information item and no action was taken. D. Preserve Liquor Store Kingrey recommended action be taken regarding the Preserve Liquor ;More. The liquor store profits are to be used for Parlt:,, Recreation, -and Public Safety. Due to a negative in revenue at the Preserve I,iquor Store , tlieL;c areas arc riot rccciviriL; any fundo. Kingrey suggested the Commissionl recon:nlcnd closing the preserve Liquor Store . The Co;;unic:.l.on did agrec, that the citizens of Eden Prairie ohou..1d see Where the profits arc going,. r parks, Recreation, and Natural Resources Commission April 16, 1984 6 MOTION: Kin;rey moved that the Parks , Recreation, and Natural Resources Commission recommend to the Council to takes positive action to correct the negative casli flow with the liquor stores for the following reasons: 1 . people have discontinued their buying at the Eden Prairie Liquor Stores because it is impossible for them to see any direct tangible return for their purchases as promoted. •2. The Commission has the continuous concern of the depletion of the profits from the successful liquor store as a result of the unsuccessful liquor store at the Preserve. The Commission is receiving feedback from the community regarding the lack of funds coming to the Parks, Recreation, and Natural Resources and The Public Safety Commissions Cook seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. VII. NEW BUSINESS A. Staring Lake Part: Playstructu.re - Phase I Steve Calhoon was present to introduce this. -proposal. Refer to memo dated April 11 , 1984 from Bob Lambert, ` Director of Community Services. Lambert and Calhoon showed slides of the proposed area. The playstructure would include wood playstructures, tube slides, rock walls for climbing, slides, and a cable ride. Other features would be benches, belt swings, and unique landscaping. Lambert informed the Commission that what* Is needed now is approval to bid the grading and the first phase of the playstructure. Kingrey expressed concern for the safety of these playstruetures. Lambert stated that the manufacturers leave reviewed the design and do not oppose that type of use. MOTION: Cook moved to adopt the plans for the Staring La'.:e Yarlc playstructure - Phase I as per Staff memo. The Commission approves to accept bids for grading and the first phase of development. Gonyea seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. B. Su�amei• Rc r.r.r.r�.ti.on pro,;ranis ( l This is all information item. K'.ngrcy moved and Breitenstein :3cconded the motion 'to l �_....� „� �n• to 1,.M. It carried unanimously. Parks, Recreation, and Natural Resources Commision April 16, 1984 Respectfully Submitted, Karen Eno Recording, Secretary F I l