HomeMy WebLinkAboutParks and Recreation - 02/06/1984 1984
FEBRUARY 6
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CITY OF EDEN PRAIRIE
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AGENDA
EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
.UNDAY, FEBRUARY 6, 1984 7:30 P.M., SCHOOL BOARD ROOM
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Marty Jessen, chairperson; Raiford Baker, Pat
Breitenstein, Marge Friederichs, Gary Gonyea,
Jerry Kingrey, Jesse Schwartz
COMMISSION STAFF• Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services
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7:30 I. ROLL CALL
II . APPROVAL OF AGENDA
III . MINUTES OF JANUARY 16, 1984
IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS
7:35 A. Donation from Viking Bassmasters Club of Fishing Dock on Staring Lake
V. RECOMMENDATIONS AND REPORTS
A. Reports of Commissioners - none
B. Reports of Staff
1. Development Proposals
7:40 a. Prairie Center Business Park
8:00 b. Village Greens
8:10 C. Knob Hill Addition
8:20 2. Report on Liquor Store Profits
8:25 3. Resolution 84-17 & 84-23 Authorizing Application for MnDOT Bikeway
Grant
8:30 4. Metro Survey on Leisure Services
8:35 S. Review of Park Reservations for 1983
8:40 6. Council Report - January 14, 1984
VI. OLD BUSINESS
8:45 A. Community Education/Recreation Programs
9:30 B. Report on Community Center Operation
:50 C. Cash Park Fee Report to Council and Development Commission
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VII. NEW BUSINESS
10:00 A. Request Authorization to Bid for Playstructure at Red Rock Park
and Lake Trail Estates Park
10:05 B. Five Year Capital Improvement Update
10:10 VIII. ADJOURNMENT
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APPROVED MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION, AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
Monday, February 6, 1984 7:30 P.M. SCHOOL BOARD ROOM
COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Marty Jessen, Chairperson;
Raiford Baker, Pat Breitenstein,
Gary Gonyea, Jerry Kingrey,
Jesse Schwartz
COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: Marge Friederichs
COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of
Community Services
OTHERS PRESENT: Charles Pappas, Community Center
Manager; Mark Weber, Eden Prairie
News; and Sandra Werts, Recreation
Supervisor
I. ROLL CALL
The meeting was called to order at 7: 30 p.m. by
chairperson, Marty Jessen. ,
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Lambert added item VB7 - Community Center Monthly Report
and item VIIC - Bridge at Anderson Lakes Parkway and
Purgatory Creek.
MOTT.ON: Tar-itea-;tea.n moved to approve the Agenda as amended
ac T-Yartz seconded the motion and it carried unanimously.,
III . MINUTES OF JANUARY 16, 1984
Page 2 paragraph 4 sentence 2, change to: The only
development proposals that will be presented at this 1
commission will be the ones where discussion is necessary
regarding cash park fees, trails, parks, and so forth.
Motion on top of page 7, change to: Baker moved that
The Park and Recreation Commission express their support
for activities provided through the city's recreation
program and to invite the members of the advisory committee,
the superintendent, community education coordinator, and
whoever else is interested in discussing the future of
community education in Eden Prairie.
MOTION: Kingrey moved to approve the minutes as amciided-
Brel nstein seconded the motion and it carried unanimously.
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A. Donation from Viking Bassmasters Club of Fishing Dock on
Staring Lake
Refer to memo dated January 30, 1984 from Carl Jullie,
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The Viking Bassmasters Club of Eden Prairie has j
indicated their wish to donate a fishing dock to the
City of Eden Prairie. This dock would be installed in
Staring Lake on the west shore, just north of the j
parking lot. The dock would be a floating structure,
anchored by 411 steel pipe. The dock would not have to
be removed from the lake in the fall and due to heavy
duty construction and design should require little
maintenance.
Lambert stated that the location is somewhat of a
compromise. The west shore does provide the easiest
access although it is mostly weeds in July and August.
Jessen inquired as to the possibility of moving the
dock later if it proved not to be the best location.
Lambert answered that the dock could easily be moved
if that was the situation.
MOTION: Baker moved that the City of Eden Prairie
- accept this generous donation. Breitenstein seconded
the motion and it carried unanimously.
V. RECOMMENDATIONS AND REPORTS
A. Reports of Commissioners - none ?
B. Reports of Staff
1. Development Proposals
a. Prairie Center Business Park
Refer to memo dated February 3, 1984 from
Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services.
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Michelle Poster, Assistant Director of Planning
for Opus Corporation presented the plan for the
Prairie Center Business Park. She stated that,
at this point, they are requesting from the city i
a concept approval for a planned industrial area.
The Opus Corporation is proposing three highly
office intensive buildings for high technology
companies. The buildings would be well designed
and of high quality.
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C� She commented that Opus is very well aware of
the City' s parks plan in this area and are
sensitive to the .fact that this is an important
site for the City' s planning. She felt that w
this proposal would be a good transition between
Rosemount Engineering to the east and the other
proposed development to the west of Prairie Center
Drive. She stated that this proposal would not
be detrimental to the park planning.
Lambert stated that the Planning Staff Report
listed nine examples of conditions that might
be put on the buildings to assure a good
transition and give the area an office character. f
Lambert expressed concern for an industrial park
in this area. His main concern is that the whole
area will turn into an industrial area instead of
office and commercial.
Kingrey shared Lambert' s concern. Kingrey stated ?
that this area really is the front door to the City.
It should not be used in this way. k
Lambert commented that if there would be
industrial areas on both sides of Prairie Center
Drive, there would really be no need for
developing a park in the Purgatory Creek area.
Lambert refered to blueprint and stated that
Parcel A would be fine to use as light industrial
but Parcels B and C should really be office and
commercial.
Foster stated that the City's guide plan does
permit industrial in this area.
Jessen suggested the commission concern itself 4
with the question of how this proposal would
effect the park across the street. He agreed
that this area could be used for something better
than a warehouse but on the other hand it is
consistent with the City's plan.
MOTION: Kingrey moved that the Park and
Recreation Commission approve the concept
proposal per the Planning Commission's report
inclusive of the nine examples of conditions
for the buildings. Schwartz seconded the motion F
and it carried unanimously.
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b. Village Greens
Refer to Staff Report dated January 20, 1984
from Chris Enger, Director of Planning.
Lambert stated that the reason this proposal
has come to the attention of the Parks Commission
is the concern for park services.
Bob Martinson, representative from the Kerr Companies
presented the plan for Village Greens. He stated
that Village Greens would be a 122 unit condominium
building. The buyers would be mostly first time
buyers with a small percentage of children. The
developer has provided an area 60 by 120 feet
for a tot lot. The area would be fenced and would
include play gear that has already been established
following the City's standards. The developers
see this tot lot as a supervised play area.
Baker inquired on what impact the golf course
would have on the development. Martinson
replied that they are working closely with the
owner of the golf course, hopefully this will
preempt problems.
Kingrey inquired about the tot lot. Lambert
�. replied that he has worked with the developers
on the location of the tot lot. Because of the
location, children will need assistance to get
to the tot lot.
MOTION: Breitenstein moved that the Park and
Recreation Commission approve Village Greens
per the Planning Staff's recommendation.
Gonyea seconded the motion and it carried
unanimously.
c. Knob Hill Addition I
Refer to Staff Report dated January 20, 1.984,
from Stephen Sullivan, Assistant Planner.
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Lambert stated that the reason this proposal
has come to the attention. of the Parks Commisssion
is that the property does abut Purgatory Creek.
There is a requirement for conservancy. There is
a blot of mature trees in the hills that should
be preserved.
Ron Krueger, Land Surveyer from Countryside
Investments presented the plan for Knob Hill.
He stated that the plan does perserve the majority
of the mature trees.
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Kingrey inquired if there would be a restriction
for buyers regarding the cutting of trees in their
backyards. Couger replied that the question
has not come up previously but could be a possibility.
MOTION: Kingrey moved that the Park and Recreation
Commission approve Knob Hill per the Planning
Staff' s recommendation. Breitenstein seconded
the motion and it carried unanimously.
2. Report on Liquor Store Profits
Lambert stated that the bottom line is that there
are no profits. The liquor store near Anderson
Lakes Parkway is loosing money. Lambert said that
the Council will look into closing that store.
3. Resolution 84-17 and 84-23 Authorizing Application
or MnDOT BiReway Gran
MOTION: Breitenstein moved that the Park and
Recreation Commission recommend that the council
file application. Baker seconded the motion and
it carried unanimously.
4. Metro Survey on Leisure Services
This is an information item.
5. Review of Park Reservations for 1983
This is an information item. Lambert recommended
that the Park and Recreation Commission take
formal action on recommending that rent money from
park land's use be put into the parr development
fund. There will be further discussion later.
6. Council Report - January 14, 1984
Lambert stated that there were a couple of items
discussed at the meeting regarding the Parks Commission.
First they did approve the application for the
MnDOT Bikeway Construction Program. The council
discussed at length where the money should come from.
The end result being that they would decide after
the application is approved.
Lambert referred to the variance for permanent dock
in Bryant Lake that the Parks Commission approved at
the January 16, 1984 meeting. It turned out that
the lot really was not a lot. It was an easement
on a lot, therefore the owners had to request a
variance for two docks on one lot. This had to
be taken up with the Board of Appeals. The Board
of Appeals recommended to Staff not to allow two
docks on one lot.
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7. Community Center Monthly Report
This is an information item.
VI. OLD BUSINESS
A. Community Education/Recreation Programs
Dr. Jerry McCoy, Superintendent of Schools was present
to address this situation.
Others present regarding this were Dr. Judy Cooper,
Assistant Superintendent and Jeanne Zetah, Community
Education Coordinator.
Dr. McCoy stated that the school district is willing to
cooperate with the City regarding community education.
He felt programs should be offered to benefit the total
community. He suggested that there should be one mailing
for community education. Dr. McCoy said that he was present
at the meeting to say that the school district is willing
and able to take over community education in Eden Prairie.
He offered a time for questions.
Kingrey thanked Dr. McCoy for coming and informed him that
the Park and Recreation Commission does have cooperative
intentions.
Jessen asked Dr. McCoy what he sees in the future for
community education in Eden Prairie. Dr. McCoy replied
that he shares the vision of the nation to expand regular
education to community education. There is a need for
constant re-educating of oneself. The school district
wants a program to go beyond recreational to university
level courses. Through television, a new way to deliver
instruction can be found. Senior Citizens have been
ignored in the past and hopefully there will be programming '
offered for them. All types of classes will be offered.
The orchestra will probably fall under community education.
Dr. McCoy also stated that he is in favor of the arts.
He ended his answer in saying that the Board of Education
does see Community Education as a target area.
Lambert added that the City would continue some
recreational programming in the parks and the community
center. He also commented that it should be one mailing.
Gonyea inquired as to who would be the liaison from the
Park and Recreation Commission. McCoy answered that
Bob Lambert would be the representative on the Advisory
Council. Lambert stated that the Parks Commission could
still give the school district ideas for programming.
( McCoy offered that the lines of communication remain open.
Jessen suggested everyone think about what was said and
discussion will follow in two weeks.
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/ B. P wort on the Community Center Operation
Refer to memo dated January 25, 1984 from
Charles Pappas, Community Center Manager.
Charles Pappas was present to explain the report.
He informed the Commission that there will be a new
format for the monthly reports. There will be three
areas on the report; activities,,operationp, and problems.
Jessen inquired as to the response that Pappas gets
from Magney Construction concerning all the problems.
Pappas answered that he gets little response. There
will be legal action taken.
Kingrey offered Pappas the Commission' s support on
all matters. Pappas stated that he will keep the
Commission better informed on the Center' s operations.
' C. Cash Park Fee Report to Council and Development Commission
Refer to memo dated January 25, 1984 from Bob Lambert,
Director of Community Services.
Lambert reminded everyone about the meeting on
February 10th at 7:30 a.m. Lambert called attention
to page two on memo. He has added additional information
regarding the increase in cash park fees. Lambert
offered a second alternative for the increase. The
alternative being an increase to $2200/acre all the
way across the board - Commercial, Industrial, and
Office.
VII . NEW BUSINESS
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A. Request Authorization to Bid for Pla structure at Red Rock Park
and Lace Tra Es a es Park
MOTION: Breitenstein moved to approve authorization to
bid or playstructure at Red Rock Park and Lake Trail Estates
Park. Gonyea seconded the motion and it carried unanimously.
B. Five Year Capital Improvement Update
Refer to memo dated February 1 , 1984 from
Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services.
A draft copy was developed at this time to provide information
to the Development Commission regarding the recommendation i
on cash park fees. The update is not complete as the
recommendations from the Master Plan for the Development
of Purgatory Creek are not available at this time.
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There was discussion regarding whether or not the money
from rentals and reservations should be put into the
park fund.
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Jessen commented that he felt the rent from parkland
that is used for farming should be put into the capital
fund.
MOTION: Schwartz moved for the Park and Recreation to
recommend to the council that the Park and Recreation
Commission retain money collected from all rentals and
reservations in the Park fund. Kingrey seconded the
motion and it carried.
C. Bridge at Anderson Lakes Parkway and Purgatory Creek
Lambert stated that instead of a bridge at Anderson
Lakes Parkway and Purgatory Creek, a controlled
structure to maintain the floodplain is being proposed.
This controlled structure being a culvert. The only
reason for a bridge is to maintain a walking path from
Staring Lake Park to Purgatory Creek Park.
There was discussion regarding alternatives.
MOTION: Baker moved that the Park and Recreation
recommend two bridging structures be built at Anderson
Lakes Parkway and Purgatory Creek - one for water and
one for trail use. Breitenstein seconded the motion
and it carried unanimously.
VIII . ADJOURNMENT
MOTION: Breitenstein moved and Baker seconded the motion
o adjourn at 10:20 p.m. It carried unanimously.
Respectfully Submitted,
Karen Eno
Recording Secretary