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HomeMy WebLinkAboutParks and Recreation - 05/16/1983 i 1983 MAY 2 , 16 MINUTES CITY OF EDEN PRAIRIE AGENDA EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION C MONDAY, MAY 2, 1983 7:30 P.M., CITY HALL COMMISSION MEMBERS: Marty Jessen, chairperson; Raiford Baker, Pat Breintenstein, Marge Friederichs, Gary Gonyea, Jerry Kingrey, Jesse Schwartz COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services Approx. Time to Begin Item 7:30 I. ROLL CALL II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA 7:35 III. MINUTES OF APRIL 18, 1983 IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS None V. RECOMMENDATIONS AND REPORTS CA. Reports of Commissioners - none B. Reports of Staff 1. Development Proposals 7:40 a. Lions Tap 8:45 b. Lorence Addition Condominiums 9:00 2. Minutes of March 22, 1983 Council meeting (Goals & Objectives) 9:05 3. City Council Action of April 19, 1983 VI. OLD BUSINESS 9:10 A. Request to Advertise for Air Conditioning Installation at Community Center 9:15 B. Staring Lake Park Trail Easement Agreement $ Construction Phases 9:20 C. Request to Advertise for Planner to Prepare Master Plan for MCA Floodplazn Area i VII. NEW BUSINESS 9:30 A. Settlement of the Kopesky Condemnation Appeal 1 9:35 VIII. ADJOURNMENT APPROVED MINUTES C EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES C014MISSION MONDAY, MAY 2, 1983 7:30 P.M. , CITY HALL COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Marty Jessen, chairperson; Pat Breitenstein, Marge Friederichs, Jerry Kingrey, Jesse Schwartz COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: Bud Baker, Gary Gonyea COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services I. ROLL CALL The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m. by chairperson, Marty Jessen. II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA MOTION: Breitenstein moved to approve the Agenda as published. Friederichs seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. III. MINUTES OF APRIL 18, 1983 MOTION: Friederichs moved to approve the Minutes as published. Breitenstein seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. ` IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS None V. RECOMMENDATIONS AND REPORTS A. Reports of Commissioners - None B. Reports of Staff 1. Development Proposals a. Lions Tap Bert Noterman, owner of Lion's Tap and Dick Putnam, Planner for the project were present. Putnam reviewed the proposed plans for moving and expanding the parking lot, expanding the building, and squaring up the intersection of County Rd. 4 and Hwy. 169 (involves realignment of Co.Rd. 4 about 60-65' east) . Putnam added that the present proposal will be a benefit to the City in that it will make the intersection safer due to the realignment, and also will move the parking lot away from Highway 169 putting the only access to the Tap off of County Rd. 4. Lambert said he concurs with Planning Staff recommendations, but would like to see the parking lot lioited to 40 spaces instead of the proposed 60-63 spaces. He said he could go along Minutes - Parks, Recreation & approved Natural Resources Commission -2- May 2, 1983 with a 53 car parking lot (ordinance requirement) , and would recommend straightening out the entry road Which would cut down on the grading required. He added that if more parking is needed he would like to see it added to the west side of the parking area as this would have less impact on the grading of the hill . Jessen asked if employee cars were included in the ordinance minimum. Lambert said he thought they were. Noterman noted that the Tap expects about 11 employee cars on his heaviest day. Putnam added that the developer would like to get by with less grading of the hillside, but the City normally does not allow anything more than a 3:1 grade. He feels this site is different and with proper soil erosion precautions a steeper grade could be successful . MOTION: Kingrey moved to recommend •to the Council the following: 1. If expansion of the building is approved, 60 parking spaces plus 3 handicapped spaces near the entrance to the building would be acceptable. 2.) Grading be kept out of the woods on the northeast part of the parking area. 3. ) Variable slopes be accepted in areas in order to minimize encroachment of the hillside, 2:1 could be considered in certain places, but grading should stay below the 790 level . 4. ) Cash Park Fees would be applicable. 5.) Realignment of County Rd. 4 per developers proposal be accomplished as shown. 6. ) Due to unstable soils, the landscaping be done so erosion control can be met. Also included in this recommendation are #3 and #9 •From Planning Staff recommendations of April 22, 1983. It is also recommended that when the trees are put in, they follow existing natural vegetation. Schwartz seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. b. Lorence Addition Condominiums Lambert noted there are no significant issues for this Commission regarding this proposal . Kingrey questioned whether the holding pond could be used for any other purpose than just a drainage area. He feels that this pond might be used as an amenity by the developer, and recommended the developer landscape around the pond. MOTION: Kingrey moved to recommend approval of Lorence Addition Condominiums per Planning Staff Report of April 22, 1983. Schwartz seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. 2. Minutes of March 22, 1983 Council Meeting (Goals & Objectives) Lambert said there was not enough time at the Council Meeting to let all the different departments speak, but in light of this meeting he suggests that this Commission develop some goals and objectives ' as a means of pointing out what is important to the community. He suggested perhaps this Commission develop goals for the forestry program, or the bike trail program and when the Commission would like to see these programs completed. He added that developing these goals and Minutes - Parks, Recreation & ,approved Natural Resources Commission -3- May 2, 1983 and objectives would help Staff in the budget process. Jessen requested Lambert to put this item on the agenda for the next meeting, and asks each Commission member to give this serious thought and call Bob with ideas. 3. City Council Action of April 19, 1983 - Approval of 1983 Staring Lake Park Grant. j ! - City attorney is working on draft of Northstars proposal . VI. OLD BUSINESS A. Request to Advertise for Air Conditioning Installation at Community Center MOTION: Schwartz moved to approve the request to advertise for air conditioning installation at Community Center. Friederichs seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. B. Staring Lake Park Trail Easement Agreement & Construction Phases MOTION: Breitenstein moved to recommend approval per Staff recommendations. Kingrey seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. \ C. Request to Advertise for Planner to Prepare Master Plan for MCA Floodplain Area Lambert referred to Staff Memo of April 21, 1983 including a sample of the Request for Proposal (RFP) which will be sent to planning firms interested in developing the Master Plan for MCA Purgatory Creek Recreation Area. Staff is also recommending a design competition ($1000 award) as a means of finding a firm that will satisfy the City's needs in getting a worthwhile plan. Jessen and Kingrey both said they feel $1000 might not be enough for the design competition. They question whether quality planners can afford to participate at that price. MOTION: Kingrey moved to recommend approval to advertise for planner to prepare the Master Plan for MCA Floodplain area, but this Commission is concerned that $1000 is not enough for the amount of work that is required, and perhaps $2,000-$3,000 should be considered to get a quality product. Schwartz seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. VII. NEW BUSINESS A. Settlement of the Kopesky Condemnation Appeal MOTION: Kingrey moved to recommend approval of the Kopesky Condemnation Appeal . ( Breitenstein seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. Minutes - Parks, Recreation & approved Natural Resources Commission -4- May 2, 1983 VIII. ADJOURNMENT i The meeting was adjourned at 9:05 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Carrie Tietz Recording Secretary i I i AGENDA EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION Monday May 16, 1983 7:30 P.M. , COUNCIL CHAMBERS COMMISSION MEMBERS: Marty Jessen, chairperson; Raiford Baker, Pat Breintenstein, Marge Friederichs, Gary Gor_yea, Jerry Kingrey, Jesse Schwartz COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services Approx. Time to Begin Item 7:30 I. ROLL CALL II . APPROVAL OF AGENDA III . MINTUES OF MAY 6, 1983 IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS I None V. RECOMMENDATIONS AND REPORTS / A. Reports of Commissioners None B. Reports of Staff 1. Development Proposals 7:35 a. Hidden Glen 8:00 b. Edenvale 17th Addition 8:20 2. Council Actions of May 3, 1983 VI . OI.D BUSINESS None VII . NEW BUSINESS 8:25 A. Staring Lake Access i 8:35 B. Goals and Policies for Eden Prairie Community Services i i 9:00 VIII . ADJOURNMENT a r - APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION MONDAY, MAY 16, 1983 7:30 P.M. , CITY HALL COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Marty Jessen chairperson; Raiford Baker, Marge Friederichs, Gary Gonyea, Jerry Kingrey (late-8:00) COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: Pat Breitenstein, Jesse Schwartz COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services I. ROLL CALL The meeting was called to order at 7:35 p.m. by Chairperson, Marty Jessen. II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA Lambert added the following item to the Agenda: IV.A. Correspondence from Hennepin County Park Reserve District. i MOTION: Baker moved to approve the Agenda as amended. Gonyea seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. III. MINUTES OF MAY 2, 1983 C MOTION: Friederichs moved to approve the Minutes of May 2, 1983 as published. Jessen seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS A. Correspondence from Hennepin County Park Reserve District Lambert referred to correspondence from the HCPRD of May 11, 1983, stating the motion passed by the HCPRD Board of Commissioners with regard to horsepower limitation on Bryant Lake. The County is asking to work with Eden Prairie is establishing reasonable surface use regulations on Bryant Lake. Jessen suggested that Larry Peterson, Hennepin County Sheriff's Water Patrol , Spring Park, be consulted for ideas on enforceability, regulations, etc. as the City proceeds with a study of this problem. MOTION: Baker moved to recommend that this Commission is in receipt of tt May 11, 1983 letter from the HCPRD to the City, and that the Council direct Staff to work with the HCPRD on the issue of water surface regulations on Bryant Lake and then notify landowners of the situation. Gonyea seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. V. RECOMMENDATIONS AND REPORTS A. Reports of Commissioners - None Minutes - Parks, Recreation & approved Natural Resources Commission -2- May 16, 1983 B. Reports of Staff 1. Development Proposals a. Hidden Glen Lambert explained to the Commission that the City Engineering and Planning Staffs, in reviewing this proposal and the requirements for the extension of Dell Road, found it apparent that extending Dell Road directly north through swamp land (as originally planned) would be very expensive. They now feel it might make more sense to take Dell Road to the northwest through this project. The revised plan before the Commission at this time indicates the realignment of Dell Road. Lambert also noted that the major concern of this PUD proposal and rezoning request is the site and location of the proposed neighborhood park and how this park site will be acquired. Dick Ferrick was present to show the revised park plan for the Hidden Glen proposal . He noted he is very willing to work with the City in whatever way possible to solve the park issue. Lambert said Staff has had a difficult time planning the park to make it work in the revised location. The only way, as far as Staff can see, would be to move the park 70' to the west. However, this would take out about 4 lots from the development: and would bear about 25% of frontage on Dell Road.1 The road assessments would probably exceed the cost of the park. Park fees from the service area would not cover the assessments, the acquisition and the development. Jessen said he feels if an extra 70' makes the park feasible, then the City should find the money to extend the park. MOTION: Kingrey moved to recommend approval of Staff recommendations or t e park plan at Hidden Glen, including 70 feet of additional land as shown on the revised map of May 6, 1983 and per Staff report of May 13, 1983. Baker seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. b. Edenvale 17th Addition Lambert located this proposal north of Edenvale Boulevard, south � of Birch Island Road. He added that the May 6, 1983 Planning Staff report addresses all issues of concern. There is no one present from the planning firm, Westwood Engineering. Jessen asked if Lambert would check with the 9 Mile Creek Watershed District and see what the situation is on the lake level of Birch Island Lake. Lambert said he would and perhaps ask,:.d if Mr. Obermeyer would come out and discuss this issue with the Commission. Friederichs asked if there are any plans to make an appropriate trail passage to Birch Island Park. Lambert said a trail i Minutes - Parks, Recreation & approved Natural Resources .Commission -3- May 16, 1983 is planned that would run along the north side of the camp. The new trail would go under the railroad tracks. MOTION: Kingrey moved to recommend approval of Edenvale 17th Addition per the May 6, 1983 Planning Staff report. Friederichs seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. 2. Council Actions of May 3, 1983 The Council acted on the following: * Approved final settlement of Kopesky parcel . k Passed resolution honoring Jaycees in the reforestation program. * Approved Staring Lake Park trail construction phases. * Approved proposal for bike trail construction and funding. * Approved advertisement for planner of Major Center Floodplain Design. * Approved Community Center membership qualifications. VI. OLD BUSINESS - None VII. NEW BUSINESS A. Staring Lake Access Lambert referred to Staff Memo of May 12, 1983, wherein the poor condition of the existing boat access on Staring Lake is discussed. Dell Barber of the Department of Natural Resources had assured Staff that the access on Staring Lake was scheduled for upgrading in 1983. Now, the Department is saying that due to the small size of Staring Lake this access will probably not be upgraded for another two to three years. Staff would like approval to try to get a firm commitment from the DNR to either upgrade the access or give the City authorization to upgrade it so the site can be used. MOTION: Gonyea moved to recommend that this Commission support Staff on their recommendation to discuss with the DNR that the City stands ready to improve the Staring Lake boat access if DNR authorizes it to do so. Friederichs seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. B. Goals and Policies for Eden Prairie Community Services Lambert referred to Staff Memo of May 13, 1983 wherein Staff lists the goals and policies suggested by Staff for initial review and enhancement ( by this Commission. I I r Minutes - Parks, Recreation & approved Natural Resources Commission -4- May 16, 1983 Jessen suggested adding the following headings to the list of goals and policies: * Programs X Fees and Charges * Finance * Planning Lambert said Staff will add goals and objectives under these new headings and present them to the Commission for comments. Kingrey said he would like the City to consider better use of senior citizens in programs that involve children, community, etc. He feels perhaps something can be set up to involve seniors more in these various volunteer programs. I Friederichs suggested the lakes throughout the City be stocked with fish. Jessen also mentioned access be developed to all water bodies in the City over a certain number of acres. Jessen asked if Staff could get the figures on the number of hours per month the Community Center is rented on future monthly reports. Lambert said he would get this information. VIII. ADJOURNMENT The meeting was adjourned at 9:20 p.m. Respectfully submitted, Carrie Tietz Recording Secretary