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1982
SEPTEMBER 20
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CITY OF EDEN PRAIRIE
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AGENDA
EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 20, 1982 7:30 P.M., CITY HALL
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Richard Anderson, chairperson; Pat Breitenstein,
Marge Friederichs, Gary Gonyea, Marty Jessen,
Jerry Kingrey, Jesse Schwartz
COMMISSION STAFF• Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services
7:30 I. ROLL CALL
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
III. MINUTES OF AUGUST 31, 1982
IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS
7:35 A. Request from Sterling Field Association
7:37 B. Letter $ Donation from Eden Prairie Horsemen
7:40 C. MCA Property Owners Proposal for Additional Grading
V. RECOMMENDATIONS AND REPORTS
A. Reports of Commissioners - none
B. Reports of Staff
1. Development Proposals j
R:00 a. Cherne Contracting Company
8:45 b. Edenvale 9t
9:1.5 2. Report on City Construction Projects - City Engineer
9:45 3. Riley Lake Attendance Report
9:50 4. Council Report 9-7-82
VI. OLD BUSINESS
9:55 A. Summer Recreation Programs (continued from August 16)
10:15 B. Camp Indian Chief
VII. NEW BUSINESS
10:20 A. Vita Course Opening October 16, 1982 - 12:30-1:30 p.m.
10:25 VIII. ADJOURNMENT
APPROVED MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 20, 1982 7:30 P.M. , CITY HALL
COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Richard Anderson, chairperson; Pat Breitenstein,
Marge Friederichs, Jerry Kingrey (late - 8:00) ,
Jesse Schwartz
COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: Marty Jessen, Gary Gonyea
COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services
Sandy Werts, Recreation Supervisor
Gene Deitz , City Engineer
OTHERS: Mark Weber, Eden Prairie News
I. ROLL CALL
The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m. , by Chairperson,. Richard
Anderson.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
MOTION: Breitenstein moved to recommend approval of the September 20, 1982
agenda as published. Schwartz seconded the motion and it carried unanimously.
( III. MINUTES OF AUGUST 31, 1982
MOTION: Schwartz moved to recommend approval of the Minutes of August 31,
1982 as published. Breitenstein seconded the motion and it carried
unanimously.
IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS
A. Request from Sterling Field Association
MOTION: Breitenstein moved to recommend to the Council approval for
the resurfacing of the Sterling Field Park tennis court for 1983.
Schwartz seconded the motion and it carried unanimously.
B. Letter & Donation from Eden Prairie Horsemen
Lambert reported this as an information item and referred to a letter
of September 15, 1982 from the Eden Prairie Horsemen.
C. MCA Property Owners Proposal for Additional Grading
Lambert introduced Don Opheim, present on behalf of the MCA property
owners.
Opheim said several property owners are requesting approval of additional
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involve removal of some vegetation but none is significant in size or value.
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Opheim said they would like to bring the slope on John Tieman's property
back farther to give it a 3:1 slope instead of a 1:1 slope which it is
at present. They are requesting Single Tree Road curb to be cut wider,
and to move the graded material to the west side of the road. Opheim
suggests that the additional cost would be carried by the City but it
can be assessed back to the property owners.
Anderson asked if this isn't an irregular request for grading when there is
no proposal or building plan at this time. Lambert responded that yes,
normally the City does not allow grading without a building plan. However,
due to the severe erosion problem on the property it would be beneficial
to stabilize it now before developers come around. Staff feels the
additional grading would generally just even the site out and stabilize
the road.
Schwartz said he has walked the site and feels there should be some
assurance the oak trees will be preserved. Schwartz also feels grading
the site would be an improvement and make the land more saleable.
Opheim said the oak trees have been marked and will be saved as they '
are such an asset to the property. He added that the City should check
on the oaks along the south side of the road bed--he feels there is some
danger the roots would be damaged with the road improvement.
MOTION: Schwartz moved to recommend approval of the requested for additional
grading by MCA Property Owners under the supervision of City Staff.
Breitenstein seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. Anderson
abstained.
V. RECOMMENDATIONS AND REPORTS
A. Report of Commissioners, None
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B. Reports of Staff
1. Development Proposals
a. Cherne Contracting Company
Lambert introduced Bill Cherne Jr. and Dave Johnson, present on
behalf of Cherne Contracting Company.
Cherne is proposing a corporate office building to be located
near County Road 18, South of I-494 and West 78th Street, north
of Anderson Lakes, west of Cabriole Center. Johnson said the
100,000 s.f. building, 5 story, will be situated in the center w
of the site. It will consist of 88,000 s.f. of office space and
a 22,000 s.f. racquetball and exercise facility.
Johnson said the developer is proposing 273 parking spaces instead
of the City's requirement of 413 for this size building. Cherne
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anticipates a maximum of 265 employees so they would like to
set aside additional parking space to the east and south which
would meet the requirement but maintain those areas as green
space until they are needed for additional parking.
Johnson said Cherne feels the cash park fee is not applicable
because they want to dedicate 38% of the total acreage to the
City. Also Cherne said the southern most portion of the building
is on public zoned property so they request the zoning be changed
to Office District. Also Cherne is asking when they must adhere to
the fencing requirement as neither of the neighbors (Gelco or I:
Cabriole) havQ complied.
Lambert said the Staff would like the dedication of a scenic
ti easement as the City has scenic easements all along that shore
of the lake (and along Purgatory Creek). Under this arrangement
cash park fees would be applicable and in keeping with City policy.
Under a scenic easement there are no walking trails and maintenance
consists of removing dead trees.
Lambert said there is a question of which preservation line
should be followed, Blacklock line or the line proposed by City
staff which would require a scenic easement over above 27% of the site.
C, City staff has suggested a line that would maintain the 100' buffer
from the shoreline and is 950' deep at the western boundary. He
added that the Hennepin County Park Reserve District is communicating
with the City and Cherne as to which line is appropriate
Lambert said the scenic easement line has been obtained from Gelco
and Cabriole through a warranty deed. They gave the lands as a
gift and paid the cash park fees.
Anderson said he feels a precedent has been set with adjacent
land owners (Gelco and Cabriole) and the City should eequest :the I1 same to be consistent.
Kingrey said he does not like the idea of requiring chain link
fencing--he would rather see vegetative barriers.
Schwartz asked if it was fair to enforce the fencing requirement
when the neighbors have not complied. Lambert said the requirement
must still be enforced here but Gelco and Cabriole must be reminded
of their commitment and follow through.
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MOTION: Kingrey moved to recommend to the Council approval- of
Cherne Contracting Company's request for rezoning with
the preservation boundary as proposed by the developer. And,
language, for_the boundary barrier be drawn the same. as, adjacent
owners and to avoid chain link fencing if possible. And, the rezoning
line be drawn 50' south of the sewer line from the eastern boundary,
westerly to the southern most parking lot, then to the viestern boundary.
And, the zoning be changed from public to office in relation to the
building. And, that cash park fees be required as precedent has
already been set by previous development proposals. Schwartz
seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. Friederichs opposed.
DISCUSSION: Schwartz said he feels Gelco and Cabriole should be
contacted regarding the implementation of barriers and that Cherne
should not be required to put theirs in first. He suggested the
barriers for all three owners be planned as one project.
A 5 minute recess was called at 9:00 p.m.
b. Edenvale 9th
Dick Krier was present from Westwood Engineering to request PUD
approval for Edenvale 9th.
The property is located south of proposed Valley View Road,
east of Mitchell Raod, west of proposed Schooner Boulevard.
Krier showed slides of the 99 acre site. The proposed land use
is for an executive office park consisting of small office
condominium type structures. The developer agrees to grade trails
and build a pedestrian bridge. The site plan also consists of
heavy berming along the new Valley View Road.
Krier said the outlots in the conservancy district would be
dedicated in a scenic easement. This would be consistent
with all of Purgatory Creek dedications.
Lambert said Staff recommends accepting dedication of a scenic
easement over the conservancy area along Purgatory and dedication
of a trail easement. Staff also recommends the developer grade
the trail and put in the 5" deep Class 5 as well as a bond for
a bridge that will eventually cross the creek.
MOTION: Breitenstein moved to recommend to the Council approval
o Edenvale 9th per Staff recommendations. Friederichs seconded
the motion and it carried unanimously.
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2. Report on City Construction Projects
City Engineer Gene Dietz showed slides taken in mid August, 1982,
of major road improvement projects in the City.
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3. Riley Lake Attendance Report
Lambert reported this as an information item. He noted that there was
a significant increase in the use of Riley Lake this year even though
parking spaces were limited to 15 boats requiring trailers. He also
noted that homeowners on Riley Lake have
tsupported the "great improvement"
over the previous crowded conditions
he lake.
4. Council Report of September 7, 1982
Lambert reported the following:
Council awarded bids for the construction of sidewalk adjacent to
Franlo Road and bike trail adjacent to Co. Rd. 1 west of County
Road 4.
- Approved resolution approving lease agreement with DNR for trail
across the public access on Staring Lake.
VI. OLD BUSINESS
A. Summer Recreation Programs (continued from August 16)
Lambert referred to a report from Sandy Werts summarizing the proposed
budget cuts in the recreation program budget.
Kingrey asked if there is something the City can do to increase profits
frogetmanhe Roun Lakeearlier startcnextsyearoncesionswhichmbert said will make ahe City will differ be able to
difference.
Lambert said he feels the recreation program will not be as good as it
has been in other years due to the budget cut. Werts feels the cuts are
too abrupt and the fees have been raised too much--the raise should be
more gradual .
Breitenstein suggested having an article in Happenings telling residents
about the budget cuts, etc. Lambert said that is a good idea. Werts
added the best place to inform people is in the recreation brochure
next spring.
MOTION: Schwartz moved to recommend to the Council acceptance of Staff
recommendations on the Summer Recreation Programs. Kingrey seconded
the motion and it carried unanimously.
B. Camp Indian Chief
MOTION: Kingrey moved to recommend to the Council approval of the
draft of September 7, 1982, from Phil Eckhert to the City of Eden Prairie
regarding strategy for resolution of the Camp Indian Chief property
question. Breitenstein seconded the motion and it carried unanimously.
Anderson added that there be access provisions in case Eden Prairie owns
the property someday.
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VII. NEW BUSINESS
A. Vita Course Opening October 16, 1982 - 12:30-1:30 p.m.
Lambert said this is an information. Staff would like to see all
Commission members present at the opening if possible.
Breitenstein asked if a memo could be sent to remind them.
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
Schwartz moved to adjourn the meeting at 11:05 p.m. Kingrey seconded the
motion and it carried unanimously.
Respectfully submitted,
Carrie Tietz
Recording Secretary