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Home My WebLink AboutParks and Recreation - 10/19/1981 1981 i OCTOBER 5119 MINUTES CITY OF EDEN PRAIRIE AGENDA EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION I MONDAY, OCTOBER 5, 1981 7.30 P.M., CITY HALL COMMISSION MEMBERS: Dick Anderson, chairperson; Austin Boulay, Pat Breitenstein, Marge Frederichs, Marty Jessen, Jerry Kingrey, Jesse Schwartz COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services Approx. Time to Begin Item 7:30 I. ROLL CALL II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA III. MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER 21, 1981 IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS None V. RECOMMENDATIONS AND REPORTS A. Reports of Commissioners None B. Reports of Staff 7:35 1. Development Proposal - Mid America Homes, Inc. 8:00 2. CSAH 18 Draft Environmental Impact Statement (Excerpts) VI. OLD BUSINESS None VII. NEW BUSINESS 8 :15 A. Staring Lake Park Trail 8:30 VIII. ADJOURNMENT I i i APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL_ RESOURCES COMMISSION t.. MONDAY, OCTOBER 5, 1981 7:30 P.M., CITY HALL COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Pat Breitenstein, acting chairperson; Austin Boulay, Marge Friederichs, Jesse Schwartz COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: Richard Anderson, Marty Jessen, Jerry Kingrey COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services OTHERS PRESENT: Mark Weber, Eden Prairie News I. ROLL CALL The meeting was called to order at 7:32 P.M. by acting chairperson, Pat Breitenstein. II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA MOTION: Marge Friederichs moved to approve the Agenda as published. Schwartz seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. III. MINUTES OF SEPTE14BXR 21, 1981 MOTION: Schwartz moved to approve the 12inutes as published. Boulay seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. IV. PETITIONS. REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS None V. RECOPIMWDATIONS AND REPORTS A. Reports of Commissioners None B. Reports of Staff 1. Development Proposal - M1id America Homes, Inc. Greg Gustafson and John Kosmos were present on behalf of Mid- America Homes, Inc., to give a brief presentation. The developer is requesting rezoning of approximately 2.2 acres of a 5 acre site from R to Office District and preliminary platting of the parcel into 2 pieces. MOTION: Schwartz moved to approve Mid America Homes Development Proposal per Staff recommendation with scenic easement. Boulay seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. Minutes - Parks, Recreation & approved October 5, 1981 Natural Resources Commission -2- 2. CSAH 18 Draft Environmental Impact Statement (Excerpts) Lambert brought this item before the Commission as an information item„ He reported that the public hearing will be on October 7, 1981 at HTC. The record will remain opan until October 23, 1981. Lambert said the City is supporting upgrading CSAH 18 to a minor arterial but not the intermediate arterial as proposed. The City also opposes CSAH 18 crossing the Minnesota River, but would support a Normandale crossing. Schwartz asked how Bloomington feels about crossing the River? Lambert said they support 18 crossing the River instead of Normandale. MOTION: Friederichs moved to support the City Councils position on CSAH 18 based on the environmental impact of the proposed upgrading of CSAH 18. Schwartz seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. VI. OLD BUSINESS None VII. NEW BUSINESS A. Staring Lake Park Trail ,Lambert gave an update on the progress of the Staring Lake Park and requested authority to negotiate a trail easement over VoTech property for the purpose of building a trail. MOTION: Schwartz recommended to Council to authorize Staff to negotiate a trail easement over VoTech property. Friederiohs seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. VIII. ADJOURND]ENT Schwartz moved to adjourn the meeting at 8:06 P.M. Boulay seconded the motion. Respectfully submitted, Carrie Tietz Recording Secretary I i I. AGENDA EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION MONDAY, OCTOBER 19, 1981 7:30 P.M., CITY HALL COMMISSION MEMBERS: Dick Anderson, chairperson; Austin Boulay, Pat Breitenstein, Marge Frederichs, Marty Jessen, Jerry Kingrey, Jesse Schwartz COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services Approx. Time to Begin Item 7:30 I. ROLL CALL II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA 7:35 III. MINUTES OF OCTOBER 5, 1981 IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS A. Letter from Lambert to E. P. Horsemen V. RECOMMENDATIONS AND REPORTS A. Reports of Commissioners - none B. Reports of Staff 7:40 1. Commission Goals and Policies a. Player Eligibility - Stuart Alexander b. Summer Recreation Programs - Centralized and Decentralized - Sandy Werts c. City Program/Community Ed Programs - Sandy Werts d. Fee Policies, Recreation Programs and Services - Sandy Werts 8:40 2. Winter Skating Rink Program - Sandy Werts 8:45 3. Council Report - October 6, 1981 VI. OLD BUSINESS 8:50 A. Architect for Staring Lake Park Shelter & Neighborhood Park Shelter VII. NEW BUSINESS 8:55 A. Ordinance Regulating Bikeways 9:00 B. Accept Bids on Summer Hockey School 9:05 VIII. ADJOURNMENT APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS , RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION MONDAY, OCTOBER 19 , 1981 7 : 30 P.M. ,CITY HALL COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Dick Anderson, chairperson; Austin Boulay, Pat Breitenstein, Marge Friederichs , Jesse Schwartz COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: Marty Jessen, Jerry Kingrey COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert , Director of Community Services Sandy Werts , Recreation Supervisor OTHERS PRESENT: Eden Prairie News I . ROLL CALL The meeting was called to order at 7 : 30 P.M. , by chairperson, Richard Anderson. II . APPROVAL OF AGENDA MOTION: Breitenstein moved to approve the Agenda as published. Boulay seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. C III . MINUTES OF OCTOBER 5 , 1981 MOTION: Schwartz moved to approve the Minutes of October 5 , 1981 , as published. Friederichs seconded the motion and it carried unanimously--Anderson abstained. IV. PETITIONS , REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS I A. Letter from Lambert to E . P. Horsemen Lambert referred to a letter he wrote on October 14 , 1981 to Debbie Sipper, President of Eden Prairie Horsemen. This letter expressed the City ' s disappointment in recent abuse of City parks by people riding their horses in unauthorized areas . The letter cites several examples but the most recent is approximately 10 acres at Staring Lake Park that will have to be reseeded because were horses were ridden over the freshly seeded property. Lambert said he feels an equestrian trail around Staring Lake Park may not be accepted by the Vo Tech School . Anderson expressed concern about cars doing damage in parks also. These are difficult problems to solve because it is so difficult to enforce the laws . In order to take action there must be a witness . He added that the park use ordinance seems useless in these areas if the law cannot be enforced. Minutes Parks , Recreation approved October 19 , 1981 - -2- Natural Resources Commission r Schwartz suggested Staff " check into changing the Park Use types of offenses are "petty misdemeanors" Ordinance so these eanors" . Lambert said he will check w instead of "misdem ith Public Safety and see what can be done . V. RECOMMENDATIONS AND REPORTS A, Re orts of Commissioners - None B. Reports of Staff 1, Commission Goals and Policies ander a, player Eli ibilit Stuart Alex Lambert reviewed the Memo of October 15 , 1981 , regarding player elibility. MOTION: Breitenstein moved to approve the goals and policies regarding player eligibility per Staff recommendations . Boulay seconded the motion and it reco carried unanimously - b . Summer Recreation 'programs - Centralized and Decentralized - Sandy Werts past and present Werts outlined the p playground program per Staff Memo of October 15 , 1981 , She noted that ram 800 of thechildren served in the recreation program are 4th grade Lambert asked ferentarecoreationoprogramss and oevaluate lly at the dif services utilized by whether the City is offering suggestions and the community. Staff would like comments from the Commission. ested that perhaps grades 1 through Friederichs sugg ro children 4 should offer strong programs , but serving sitting. Children younger may be just an effort in baby their own older than 4th grade are interested in doing thing and organized activities don' t interest them as much. discussed the idea of having a centralized Lambert recreation program at one location, Round Lakehtabe. Bussing from key locations in Eden Praarkewould be mi a possibility and supervision at the p part of the program. l r Minutes - Parks, Recreation approved October 19, 1981 Natural Resources Commission -3- Anderson suggested preregistration for bussing if the centralized program is used. He also suggested those supervising the program be licensed to drive a bus . Anderson also suggested that perhaps Kids Korner (ages 3-42) be offered at a couple locations rather than eliminating it . Lambert summarized the suggestions being brought forth by the Commission as follows : Stay with the decentra- lized for Kids Korner and Munchkins , and centralize Summer Fun and Leisure Challenge at Round Lake Park. Eliminate Playground on Wheels . Lambert sees the only problem might be in hiring people , but he will work with Werts in seeing if this plan can be a workable one . The Commission continued this item to November 2nd. C. City Program/Community Ed Programs - Sandy Werts Werts referred to Staff Memo of October 14 , 1981 , describing the present status of the division of program services offered by the City and Community Education. �._ MOTION: Schwartz moved to support Staff Memo of October 14 , 1981 , and recommends that Staff review the language of the policies with Community Education Staff. Breitenstein seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. DISCUSSION: Lambert pointed out that the purpose of defini—ng the services is so there is something in writing for future clarification both for the City and Community Services . d. Fee Policies , Recreation Programs and Services - Sandy Werts MOTION: Breitenstein moved to approve per Staff recommendations . Schwartz seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. 2. Winter Skating Rink Program - Sandy Werts Werts reviewed skating rink locations and policies for this season, which are basically the same as last year. Anderson asked what the status of mini rinks is? Lambert pointed out that those rinks which have been called mini rinks in the past are now part of developed park areas thus they have been moved to more useable locations . K Minutes - Parks , Recreation & approved October 19, 1981 Natural Resources Commission -4- Anderson asked if there is any demand for a speedskating track? Lambert said not at this time , but a track could be cleared on Round Lake if there is a future demand. MOTION: Breitenstein moved to approve the Winter Skating Rin�rogram per Staff recommendations . Friederichs seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. 3. Council Report - October 6 , 1981 Lambert reported the following: • Council awarded bid for Flying Cloud Concession Stand * Approved tot lot at the end of the cul-de-sac on Overlook Place • Required trail at Preserve Condominiums VI . OLD BUSINESS A. Architect for Staring Lake Park Shetler & Neighborhood Park S e ter CLambert reported that 3 firms were interviewed and Staff i is recommending Schwartz/Weber Architects . Under the contract , the Architect will design the Staring Lake Park Shelter , and work on a basic park shelter concept on an hourly basis . MOTION: Friederichs moved to recommend Schwartz/Weber Architects per Staff recommendation. Breitenstein seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. VII . NEW BUSINESS A. Ordinance Regulating Bikeways MOTION: Schwartz moved to accept the Ordinance Regulating Biuys per Staff recommendation. Boulay seconded the motion and it carried unanimously . B . Accept Bids on Summer Hockey School MOTION: Breitenstein moved to accept the bid from Minnesota Fob c Zey Schools , Inc. , per Staff recommendations . Boulay seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. VITT . ADJOURNMENT - Breitenstein moved to adjourn the meeting at :45 P.M. Schwartz seconded the motion. Respectfully submitted, Carrie Tietz , Recording Secretary