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1980
MARCH 3 !, 17
MINUTES
CITY OF EDEN PRAIRIE
AGENDA
EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
�} MONDAY, MARCH 3, 1980 7:30 P.M. , CITY HALL
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Richard Anderson, Chairperson; David Anderson,
Pat'Br6itenstein, Robert Johnson, Gloria Pond,
Dr. George Tangen, Larry VanMeter
COMMISSION STAFF: Robert A. Lambert, Director of Community
Service
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7:30 I. ROLL CALL
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
7:35 III. MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 4 and FEBRUARY 6
IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS
None
V. RECOMMENDATIONS AND REPORTS
C A. Reports of Commissioners
7:40 1. Introduction of New Commission Members
B. Reports of Staff
1. Development Proposals
7:45 a. Sunset Trails
8:30 2. Regulating Use of Surface Waters
8:35 3. Council Report
8:45 4. Community Center Status Report
8:50 S. Fish Management Programs
VI. OLD BUSINESS
9:00 A. Plans & Specifications for Staring Lake Grading & Flying
Cloud Ballfields
9:10 B. Swedlund Property Resort
9:25 C. Tree Disease Program
9:45 D. Appraisals of Neighborhood Park Property
Parks, Recreation & -2- 7:30 P.M. City Hall
Natural. Resources
VII. NEW BUSINESS
10:00 A. City/School Site Trade-Off
10:15 B. Janke Property Purchase
10:30 VIII. ADJOURNMENT
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APPROVED MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
MONDAY, MARCH 3, 1980 7:30 P.M. , CITY HALL
COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Richard Anderson, Chairperson; David Anderson,
Pat Breitenstein, Gloria Pond, Dr. George Tangen,
Larry VanMeter
COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: Robert Johnson (arrived late)
COMMISSION STAFF PRESENT: Robert Lambert, Director of Community Services
OTHERS PRESENT: Eden Prairie News
Cliff Swenson, Countryside Investments, Inc.
Stuart Fox, City Forester (arrived 9:40 P.M.)
I. ROLL CALL
The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m. , by Chairperson Richard Anderson.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
A. Annual Reorganization - voting for chairperson and vice-chairperson for
the coming year.
MOTION: Tangen moved that R. Anderson continue as chairperson. D. Anderson ,
seconded and the motion carried unanimously. F
MOTION: D. Anderson moved that Tangen continue as vice chairperson. VanMeter
seconded and the motion carried unanimously.
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B. Additions: V.A.2. Hookey Rinks and Warming Houses - D. Anderson
V.A.3. Letter to Past Commissioners - D. Anderson
MOTION: R. Anderson moved and D. Anderson seconded, to approve the Agenda
as published, with the additions. Motion carried unanimously.
III. MINUTES OF FEBRUARY 4th AND FEBRUARY 6th:
February 4, 1980: p.5: D. Anderson - insert that he left at 9:00 p.m. ,
before the Swedlund report.
MOTION: D.. Anderson moved and R. Anderson seconded to approve the February 4, 1980i
minutes as published, with the change. Motion carried unanimously.
February 6, 1980: Introduction - Change "Lambet" to "Lambert".
para.l: Change "Committee Center" to "Community Center".
MOTION: D. Anderson moved and R. Anderson seconded, to approve the
February 6, 1980 minutes as published, with the changes. Motion carried
unanimously.
IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS
None
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r,- V. RECOMMENDATIONS AND REPORTS
A. Reports of Commissioners
1. Introduction of New Commission Members
Lambert introduced and welcomed new members Pat Breitenstein and
Gloria Pond to the Commission.
2. Hockey Rinks and Warming Houses
D. Anderson reported that the hockey board has been meeting with the
coaches over the past two weeks, and complained that some kids have
not been able to practice because either the warming houses have
been closed due to cold weather, or the attendant has not shown up
to open a warming house. Anderson is passing on to the Commission
these complaints and hopes something can 'be done next year to relieve
this problem.
Lambert said the City has raised the salary of warming house attendants
in hopes of attracting more dependable employees. The City is opposed
to giving the hockey association keys to the houses as this would
open them up to the public because there is very little control on
duplicating keys and the houses might as well be left unlocked. i
D. Anderson suggested senior citizens as possible employees. Lambert
said some have already been approaohed those younger than 65 are not
interested, and those over 65 tend to be afraid of teenagers.
3. Letter to Past Commissioners
D. Anderson felt there should be past Commissioner recognition in
the form of a letter or something. Lambert said letters have been
sent to Kruell and Fifield, and an event such as a dinner recognizing
past Commissioners would be an annual event.
B. Reports of Staff
1. Development Proposals
a. Sunset Trails
Cliff Swenson of Countryside Investments gave a brief overview of
the project. The site is 21 acres. Swenson stated that the Planning
Commission recommends 18 lots on 9 high acres of the site. Of the
12 remaining acres of lowland, 9 acres would be donated to the City,
2 acres given to the City in lieu of cash park fee, and 1 additional
acre would be donated in lieu of developing a 1 acre tot lot (mini
park) in High Trails Estate.
Lambert pointed out that to say he agrees to the 1 acre mini park
exchange (trade-off) would be misleading. He feels it would be
"reasonable to consider" this trader off because of the desirability
of the Sunset Trails parkland. Lambert feels the Commission should
carefully consider the worth of this trade-off.
Lambert added that development of the 1 acre mini park in High
( Trails Estate amounts to approximately a $10,000 investment for
the developer.
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R. Anderson asked Lambert if he feels the City should set this
kind of president? Lambert said the only reason he feels the
trade-off should be considered is because of the amount of land
being -given. As a staff person Lambert can see the developers
point of view but also potential problems the City might face after
a deal such as this. Lambert's inclination would be to take the
11 acres and not make a deal on the mini park, but wonders how serious
the developer is about not giving the 11 acres if the City does not
agree to waiving the development of the mini park. .
R. Anderson wondered if the trade-off arrangement would cause any
legal problems. Lambert does not see any but the attorney has
not been consulted.
Tangen expressed difficulty seeing the merit of the trade-off issue;
he suggested that the Commission should accept or reject the basic
development proposal and not be concerned with the mini park proposal.
Perhaps it would be best to let the City negotiate with the developer.
on the mini parkea.s these really are two separate issues.
R. Anderson asked about the two lots that would be encroaching
the floodpl.ain. He said the Commission is watchful of areas where
floodplain is proposed to be filled. Lambert said that a permit
must be obtained from the DNR before filling of Type III Wetlands.
MOTION: Tangen moved to recommend to the Council approval of Sunset
Trails Development per the Planning Report of February 7, 1980. That
the 2 acres be accepted in lieu of a cash park fee and that the
gracious donation of approximately 9 acres be accepted and 1 additional
acre be acquired by the City either through purchase or other consider-
ation. Johnson seconded the motion and it carried unanimously.
2. Regulating Use of Surface Waters
Lambert responded to Tangents question from the meeting of February 4th
as to what governmental agency has the authority to control use of
surface water in the City. Lambert learned from Duane Shodeen,
Division of Waters (DNR), that the City can pass an ordinance regulating
the use of waters; however, the Commissioner's of the DNR must approve the
ordinance prior to it becoming law. The DNR will have guidelines
available later this summer and Lambert will bring them before the
Commission then.
3. Council Report
Lambert reported on the following items:
(a) the Park Use Ordinance has been forwarded to the Attorney for review.
This will come back to the Commission and then go to the Council for the
first reading. Public Safety was impressed with the Ordinance and
glad something was being done.
(b) Hiring of the Community Center architect was on the agenda but
was taken off pending the Attorney reviewing the contract. The
architects are working on the sohematic plan.
,�- (a) The Council sharea many of the concerns the Commission has on the
Swedlund property, i.e. , where to get funding, priority, etc. and
request a staff report on these concerns.
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(d) The Council approved the speoifioations for Homeward Hills.
(e) Ellers and Associates did not advertise park bonds because the
market is so bad and the bond market does not look bright for possibly
the next six months. Presently there is a 7% oeiling on park bonds
interest which makes it difficult to attract investors who can get
better interest elsewhere. Legislature is now considering two bills
regarding this; (1) to inorease.the interest rate to 9%, or (2) place
no limit on interest rate.
4. Community Center Status Report
Lambert reported that the schematic plans are to be completed by
April 1 , 1980. He has asked Smiley Glotter Architects to give him
10 days notice of schematic and cost estimate completion so a joint
meeting of Council and Commission and School Board can be arranged
to go over this. Having one ,Joint meeting hopefully will speed the
process on to the design development phase.
R. Anderson wanted the Commission to be aware of the concern by the
school and community whether or not the Community Center Committee
has been dissolved. Lambert said, per the Council, that the Committee
has not been dissolved and will be "on call" during the design process
but will no longer meet on a weekly basis.
5. Fish Management Program
Lambert reviewed the Staff Memo of February 26, 1980, outlining his
meeting with Don Farb of Barr Engineering; Duane Shodeen, DNR;
Dr. Shapiro, University of Minnesota; and Joe Schilling, Minnesota
Pollution Control Agency, regarding the proposed management program
for Round Lake. In asking about other lakes in Eden Prairie besides
Round Lake, Lambert learned that Eden Prairie's best potential fishing
lakes are Red Rock and Mitchell (Red Rook was once one of the best
large mouth bass lakes in the State).
R. Anderson thought residents of the City should be made aware of this
information. Fishing provides more recreation for Minnesotans than
any other activity and to have such good fishing potential right in
Eden Prairie is a real asset. R. Anderson further said that while the
City is making plans for Round Lake, perhaps a 5-year plan to investigate
one lake per year might be considered.
Lambert pointed out that the DNR will come out and look at any lake
if asked, but they will not undertake fish management program unless
public access is established. He added that Barr Engineering will
submit a letter to the City outlining the monitoring program by
the March 17 Commission meeting.
MOTION: D. Anderson moved to table this issue until the next meeting
when the Barr Engineering Report is available. R. Anderson seoonded
the motion and it carried unanimously.
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(" VI. OLD BUSINESS
A. Plans & Specifications for Staring Lake Grading & Flying Cloud Ballfields
Lambert reported that the Flying Cloud Ballfields Plan has been changed
slightly. The Metropolitan Airports Commission said the park extended
too far south so the boundary has been changed.
Lambert further said that the two projects will be bid together because
of their similarity. Flying Cloud Ballfields could be dropped if a
satisfactory lease is not reached before receiving bids.
D. Anderson asked if the parks were graded and seeded this fall, would
the grass be established enough to permit use by Spring 1981. Lambert
said the decision would have to be made in the spring, if the turf is
too bare use would have to be postponed, but hopefully it would be ready.
MOTION: D. Anderson moved to recommend to the Council that bids be
advertised for the grading of Staring Lake Park and Flying Cloud Ballfields.
VanMeter seconded the motion and it carried unanimously.
B. Swedlund Property Report
Lambert referred the Commission to Staff memo of February 22, 1980, listing
possible sources of funds for acquisition of the Swedlund property. He
feels certain LAWCON is a good source of funding, however each community
is limited to one grant per year so the City would have to change its
present commitment from Miller Park to Swedlund. Lambert further feels
an appraisal of the property is appropriate at this time. He has called
Swedlund's and advised them to go ahead and put the property on the
market and not to wait for the City as the funding details must be
worked out.
R. Anderson asked if it is appropriate to recommend the Council take `
action and Lambert felt, at this time, the Commission should recommend
where it feels funds should come from and then take action.
MOTION: Tangen moved to recommend to the Council that the Swedlund Property
on Riley Lake be obtained, if possible, and that it appears funding might
be available per Staff memo of February 22, 1980. The Commission
particularly feels the use of refunds from Metro Council be appropriate
and should purchase be made, the sale of Miller Park on Riley Lake be
an additional source of funds. Should this meet Council approval,
appraisals of both park sites be obtained. Breitenstein seconded the
motion and it carried unanimously. s:
DISCUSSION: D. Anderson asked if the City is limited as to what it can
use the Metro Council refund for. Lambert said there should be consistent
use of the funds and as long as the dollars were originally spent for.
community park lakeshore property, the Swedlund property would be in
keeping.
C. Tree Disease Program
MOTION: D. Anderson moved to table this issue until Stuart Fox, City
Forester, arrives. VanMeter seconded the motion and it passed unanimously.
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D. Appraisals of Neighborhood Park Property
Lambert reviewed the appraisals in his Staff memo of February 29, 1980,
and pointed out that Sites #1 are priority sites, and Sites #2 are
second choice.
D. Anderson asked if, on the Red Rock #1 site, owner Seifert was any
closer to selling the property. Lambert said he hadn't talked to him
in about a year, and at that time Seifert planned on selling the
property to the City but was not yet able to for tax purposes.
D. Anderson questioned whether 23 acres for the Creekwood site wasn't
too much property to serve that small an area. He said it had been
brought up before to try to channel Creekwood kids over to the Homeward
Hills site. Lambert said more houses are projected east of Creekwood
for the future. The residents want a park now. Lambert thought
consideration could be given, however, to scale the parcel down and still
get the active use area.
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Tangen asked if any trail system was planned going to, or adjacent to,
either Creel-wood site, and would there be a bike lane. Lambert answered
yes and a sidewalk would eventually extend along Homeward Hills to
Anderson Lakes Parkway.
MOTIONt Tangen moved to recommend to the Council that the Staff be
instructed to secure options on Red Rock Site No. 1, Hidden Ponds Site
C No. 1, and Creekwood Site No. 1. On Creekwood Site No. 1, negotiate
an option of something less than 23 acres that would still give area
needed to accommodate the proposed development. VanMeter seconded
the motion and it carried unanimously.
C. Tree Disease Program
Stuart Fox arrived and summarized his memo dated February 28, 1980. Due
to recommendations by Hennepin County and the Metro Council, the City
must change its method of disposing of tree waste. Therefore, Fox
recommends that the City should try to operate its own disposal site.
This means that the City would process all it could by renting a chipper
from Hennepin County (chipper takes up to 22" diameter), oversized logs
can be trucked to Bloomington disposal site, and small volume can be
buried in the Landfill. Fox pointed out that an advantage to this program
is that if the City wants to discontinue the program in a few years it
wouldn't have invested in a lot of expensive equipment.
Lambert mentioned that if the homeowners have the wood out into 8-10 ft.
lengths, these saw logs can be taken to Dakota County mill and processed
into lumber which can be used by the City for bridge deokings, picnic
tables, benches, eto. The mill gives back 3/4 of the total coaled volume
keeping 1/4 in payment for the labor. The City doesn't anticipate getting
many logs large �t�o gh for saw to s cut, n 8-1t�' leh the.
R. Anderson a e i ity residen s coo use e c�s produced from this
program. Fox replied yes, and explained that there are presented 10 piles
of chips around the City and the chips are available free. Also, the
market for chips is improving and the City hopes to sell them which would
mean income from this program.
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Johnson asked what the tree supply is for the future. Fox estimated
C' about 6,000-7,000 trees per year for the next 10 years must come clown.
The City has a ballpark elm inventory of 250,000:*
MOTION: D. Anderson moved to recommend to the Council approval of
Stuart Fox's recommendation to operate a tree disposal site within
Eden Prairie using Hennepin County chipper. If proper terms can be
arranged, the landfill site is the most desirable location. The diseased
material would be hauled to the site, stacked, and on & regular basis
(3 day/week) the County would supply a chipper. At $80/hour, it is
recommended the City operate a disposal site open to the public including
a drop charge to offset operation costs. The costs and returns are
outlined as follows:
COSTS RETURNS
Chipper Rental $80/hr. Drop Charge $1.50/yd.
Sale of Chips $4.50/yd.
Sale of Saw Logs (limited)
Bookkeeping Costs
Land Rental
Extra Manpower (1-2 part-time)
Use of Additional City Equipment
Breitenstein seconded the motion and it passed unanimously.
DISCUSSION: R. Anderson added that disposing of trees prompts disoussion
of a reforestation program. 11a,asked if the City has a reforestation
program. Lambert replied that the City has an extensive program and
will make a point of outlining this for the Commission at the next meeting.
VII. NEW BUSINESS
A. City/School Trade-Off
Lambert reviewed Staff memo of February 25, 1980, wherein the school
district is requesting the City to dedicate 2 school pads within City
parks for the right to use the fill from their site on -the future
school park site at Lake Eden.
MOTION: D. Anderson moved to recommend to the Council that the Commission
agrees with the Staff memo of February 25, 1980 and the recommendations
within dealing with the school park sites. Pond seconded the motion. .
AMEND: Tangen moved to recommend that the Lake Eden school and City sites
be combined into one property owned by the City with designated school
pad incorporated into park plans. Pond seconded the amendment and the
original motion carried unanimously.
B. Janke Property Purchase
MOTION: Tangen moved to recommend to the Council the Staff's request
for authorization to secure an appraisal and negotiate a purchase based
on the appraisal. VanMeter seconded the motion and it carried unanimously.
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VIII. ADJOURNMWT
The meeting was adjourned at 10:26 p.m.
Respeotfully Submitted,
Carrie Tietz
Reoording Seoretary
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AGENDA
EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
MONDAY, MARCH 17, 1980 7:30 P.M., CITY HALL
COMMISSION MEMBERS: Dick Anderson, Chairperson; David Anderson,
Pat Breitenstein, Robert Johnson, Gloria
Pond, Dr. George Tangen, Larry VanMeter
COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services
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7:30 I. ROLL CALL
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
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III. MINUTES OF MARCH 3, 1980
IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS
None
V. RECOWIENDATIONS AND REPORTS
4`- A. Reports of Commissioners
None
B. Reports of Staff
1. Development Proposals
7:35 a. Gonyea Investment PUD
7:50 b. CNR-Golden Strip East PUD & Viking Rezoning
8:15 c. Tudor Oaks Retirement Community
8:35 2. Comprehensive Park Plan
8:45 3. Tree Disease Program
9:00 4. Reforestation Program
9:05 S. Council Report 3/4/80
VI. OLD BUSINESS .�
9:15 A. City School/Site Trade-Off
9:30 B. Lake Management Program
VII. NEW BUSINESS
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9:45 VIII. ADJOURNMENT
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APPROVED MINUTES
EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION
l� MONDAY, MARCH 17, 1980 7:30 P.M., CITY HALL
COMMISSION ME14BERS PRESENT: Dick Anderson, Chairperson; Pat Breitenstein,
Gloria Pond, Larry VanMeter,
COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: Robert Johnson (late), Dr. George Tangen (late),
David Anderson (late,
COMMISSION STAFF PRESENT: Robert Lambert, Director of Community Services
OTHERS PRESENT: Dick Dahl, Eden Prairie News
John Uban, Howard Dahlgren Assoc.
Howard Dahlgren, Howard Dahlgren Assoc.
Donald Brauer, (arrived 8:40 p.m.)
I. ROLL CALL
The meeting was called to order at 7:35 p.m. , by Chairperson, Richard Anderson.
II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA
Additions: V.A.1. Special Meetings - R. Anderson
VII.A. Water Control, Riley Watershed District and Nine Mile
Creek Watershed District - R. Anderson
MOTION: VanMeter moved and Breitenstein seconded the motion to approve the
agenda as published with the additions. The motion carried unanimously.
i III. MINUTES OF MARCH 3, 1980
p.l, Sect.III February 4th Motion - Change to motion made by D. Anderson,
seconded by R. Anderson
p.4, last para. Change to motion made by D. Anderson, seconded by
R. Anderson
p.5, last para. Change to motion made by D. Anderson, seconded by
R. Anderson
MOTION: Tangen moved and VanMeter seconded to approve the March 3, 1980
Minutes as published, with ohanges. Motion carried unanimously.
IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMM1UNICATIONS
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V. RECOMMENDATIONS AND REPORTS
A. Reports of Commissioners
1. Special Meetings
R. Anderson feels the Commission should be notified of any special
meetings held which relate to Commission business. He cited the
recent meeting of the School Board and Council dealing with school
park trade offs and the location of the community center building
on the site. He feels a phone call or the like should be made to
notify Commissioners of such special meetings.
Lambert mentioned how the meeting cited came about on short notice,
and agreed that Commission members can be notified of special meetings.
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1. Development Proposals
a. Gonyea Investment PUD
John Uban of Howard Dahlgren Associate's, gave an overview of
the project. He emphasized that the SE corner of
the site, where the wetland is located, is the ponding area for
much of the adjacent lands. All the slopes drain down toward the
pond and he said perhaps this area is carrying an undo burden
of ponding. Uban showed a 1940 map of the area and told the
Commission that the entire site, including the present wetland,
was under cultivation in 1940.
R. Anderson questioned the point made by Uban of the pond
carrying an "undo burden of ponding", as the pond was there when
the developer purchased the land. Uban said that when Gonyea
purchased the land 10 years ago, he intended to drain
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industry there, but the wetland, area has grown prohibiting
(The pond is 1 to 2 feet deep)
The developer wants to dedicate the ponding area to the City for
storm sewer storage and open space in lieu of the cash park fee.
Uban pointed out that this is the third plan Gonyea has brought
to the City within the past year. The developer believes they
have improved on the plan each time in providing more open space
and reflecting the concerns of the neighbors.
Tangen asked if the Planning Staff Report of August 10, 1979, is
the most recent. Lambert said it was. His recommendation to the
Commission, based on the Planning Report and the developers
latest proposal, is that the City charge the cash
shipark
fee.land for
Lambert further stated that the City need
pond area, but not as park or open space.
R. Anderson pointed out that this development will increase
pedestrian traffic and a walking trail should be planned through
it. There is a oul-de-sao planned for this project and one
dead ending in the residential area to the east, so some plan
for pedestrians should be considered now.
MOTION: Tangen moved to recommend to the Council that the question of
dedicating the ponding area to the City in lieu of cash park fee by
the developer, be continued to the next meeting so the developer and
Staff can look at the proposed dedication and see if development of a
trail system to the north and west can be made. Pond seconded the
motion. The motion carried with D. Anderson abstaining.
b. CNR Golden Strip East PUD and Viking Rezoning
Lambert reported Don Brauer will bo delayed until approximately
9:00 p.m. for this presentation and the Tudor Oaks Retirement
Community presentation.
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2. Comprehensive Park Pan i
MpTXON: Tangen moved to table this to the next meeting. �.
D. Anderson seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. Iu.
3. Tree Disease Program
Lambert reviewed Stuart Foxes memo of March 13, 1980. clarifying
some of the concerns the Council expressed. The Council has con-
cerns regarding alternatives to chipping (ie. locating a buyer
for the raw wood) and expanded cost estimates for a chipping site.
4. Reforestation Program
Lambert presented a memo from Stuart Fox dated March 13, 1980, on
the City's current reforestation program as requested by the
Commission from the last meeting.
R. Anderson asked if the City couldn't plant more trees in open
park spaces such as at Bryant Lake Park. As long as the City
has its own nursery stook available, these open spaces could be
reforested on a planned basis.
1b. CNR Golden Strip Bast PUD & Viking Rezoning
Don Brauer arrived and reviewed the project. The Vikings are,
asking for approval of rezoning of Lot 1 and Lot 2 per Planning
Report.
Brauer pointed out to the Commission that the interchange at 494
and 18 is ready for bid. The plan is for all 4 ramps to be
combined with service roads. Brauer said that a bridge across 494
has been brought up before and now is even more important in
providing an alternate way to cross 494 other than the interchange.
Due to the elevations where the bridge is proposed, it would be
most practical to go under 494 (grade needs to be down 4.0 feet ).
Brauer showed that the Vikings plan to build 2 full size football
fields, 1 smaller covered practice field and administration building
on the 2 lots. As a point of information to the Commission he
mentioned the Vikings are asking for deed restrictions on the
property to the west so no high buildings can be put up to infringe
on the privacy of Viking practices.
R. Anderson asked how much of the rather substantial hill on lots 1
and 2 will be altered for the football fields. Brauer said that
the fields fall between the hill and the western lot line.
R. Anderson also asked; (1) how much of the floodplain to the north
would be infringed upon, and; (2) what will happen to all the soil
graded out in construction of the fields. Brauer replied; (1) only
300 sq.ft. of the floodplain to the north would be encroached upon,
and; (2) the soil will balance out between the high and low lands
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R. Anderson asked if the future trail system along Nine Mile Creek
had been taken into consideration as the time to consider this is
at the time of development. Lambert replied that the trail
location has not been firmly established as yet io. what side of
the oreek it will be on, but there is plenty of allowance for it.
R. Anderson pointed out that this is a prime wildlife habitat
area and he encourages Commission members to go and look at the
area before development occurs.
MOTION: D. Anderson moved to recommend to the Counoil the rezoning
of Vikings site Lot 1 and Lot 2, of approximately 15 acres, per
Planning Staff recommendation. R. Anderson seconded the motion.
AMENDMENT: Tangen amended the motion' to return the PUD to developer
to reconsider recommendations in planning staff report for the western
end, and before it comes up for approval bring this back before the
Commission. R. Anderson seconded the amendment and the original
motion carried unanimously.
1c. Tudor Oaks Retirement Community
Brauer is representing the new owners and corporation which has
permits to build, ABIO Holdings Inc. They have satisfied all
liens on the property and are clear owners. The active partners
of the group froin Toronto (ABIO Holdings, Inc.) are D. Crashley,
D. Owen, and S. McLaughlin.
`- Brauer pointed out that the change in ownership brought about a
change in concept from a life care (no ownership) concept, to a
condominium (ownership) concept. Because of ownership rights,
now there is a need to place lots where before there was not.
Brauer said that many organizations have been contacted, but
Ebenezer Society will most likely operate this facility.
Referring to the Application for Preliminary Plat Approval, Brauer
said Outlot B (4.07 acres) represents the encroachment into the
floodplain and there is a possibility of additional dwelling
units here at some future time.
Tangen asked if changing the concept to condominium ownership lifted
the 62 minimum age limit. If so, will the recreational plans change
to accommodate younger age. Brauer said the age minimum will be
lifted and yes the whole recreation picture should be re-evaluated.
MOTION: Tangen moved to recommend to the Council approval of Tudor
Oaks Retirement Community per Planning Staff Report. D. Anderson
seconded the motion and it carried unanimously.
5. Council Report 3/4/80
Lambert reported on the following:
1) Hired architects Smiley Olotter Associates
2) Approved bids for grading of Starring Lake Park and Flying
Cloud Ballfields.
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3) Approved appraisals for Swedlund pp property and existing Riley
Lake Park.
4) Awarded tractor bids.
5) Approved Janke property purchase on Anderson Lakes.
6) Requested meeting with School Board on City Sohool/Site
Trade-Off.
7) Requested Staff for further report on Tree Disease Program.
8) Continued ordering improvements on Valley View Road—includes
Round Lake Park.
D. Anderson asked what the terms are in the contract with Smiley
Glotter. Lambert said a percentage basis with many contingencies
spelled out in the contract. The City has the right to terminate
the contract at any time during the 4 phases. The Council has
authorized the first phase, schematic ($19,000), and then will
decide whether to go on. This is based somewhat on bonds being
sold.
VI. OLD BUSINESS
A. City School/Site Trade-Off
Lambert reviewed the Staff Memo of March 14, 1980, where the City Council
and School Board agreed to continue past policy of City to acquire
sohool/park sites as needed by the school district. 16,000 ou.yds. of
fill will be granted for the Lake Eden Park Site. The City will
advertise for grading Lake Eden Park upon selling of the park bonds,
hopefully April or May. Lambert hopes to see grading this season.
B. Lake Management Program
Lambert feels the cost proposed by Barr is quite healthy. He recommends
a modified program including destratification of Round Lake so the DNR
can restock with sizeable fish. Destratifying would cost $3,500. Also,
Lambert feels the City should commit to an aeration s stem to guarantee
fish can live year after ,year (cost $12,000 — $15,0Z. Watershed could
help with possibly 50% of costs. Lambert said this is a worthwhile
project to spend cash park fees on. The status of this fund is as follows:
as of 1/1/79 s $170,209.50
collected 1979 a 317,269.60
spent 1970 m (54,574.94)
as of 12/31/79 $432,904.16
MOTION: Breitenstein moved to recommend to the Council the following
per Staff recommendation:
(1) Contact high school and University to request they
consider monitoring Round Lake on class project basis,
instead of hiring Barr Engineering.
(2) Commit to destratifying the lake in September 1980,
to treat and restock in September.
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(3) Commit to installation of aeration system prior to winter 1981.
The motion was seconded by Johnson and carried unanimously.
DISCUSSION: D. Anderson asked if there might be a problem getting
students from the University to do a project like this? Lambert said
in talking with Shapiro there are students going out on projects like
this all the time--but getting people to commit to a 4 year study l
might be a problem. The University has not been approached on this
yet. Lambert pointed out the City does have good base data already.
R. Anderson stated it might cost a small fee for having students work
on a.project like this and would the City consider that. Lambert assumed
yes, up to about $500.
VII. NEW BUSINESS
A. Water Control
R. Anderson pointed out certain swamp areas, such as the one off Valley
View Road, which provide a service to the community in storing water for
flood control and holding in wildlife habitat. He feels the flow of
water into and out of areas like this should be controlled, and the
Watershed Districts (Riley and Nine Mile) should be approached on the
possibility of putting a permanent structure in to stabilize the water
flow.
Lambert suggested a formal motion on this as there would have to be
�. studies done on what happens upstream if the water is controlled.
R. Anderson offers the chair to Tangen and Tangen accepts.
MOTION: R. Anderson moved to recommend to the Council that the Riley
Watershed District and the Nine Mile Watershed District be approached
to investigate putting in a permanent structure to stabilize the flow
of water in valuable swamp areas such as off Valley View Road.
Breitenstein seconded the motion and it carried unanimously.
The chair goes back to R. Anderson.
Lambert noted the City got a good bid for grading at Round Lake Park of
$116,502.60.
VIII. ADJOURNMENT
The meeting was adjourned at 10:15 P.M.
Respectively submitted,
Carrie Tietz
Recording Secretary
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