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HomeMy WebLinkAboutParks and Recreation - 06/27/1979 1979 JUNE 4 , 18 ,527 MINUTES CITY OF EDEN PRAIRIE AGENDA DEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION 10NDAY, JUNE 4, 1979 7:30 F.M. CITY HALL COMMISSION MEMBERS: Richard Anderson, Chairperson; David Anderson, Robert Carlson, Steve Fifield, Robert Johnson, Robert Kruell, George Tangen COMMISSION STAFF: Robert A. Lambert, Director of Community Services Approx. Time to Begin Item 7:30 I. ROLL CALL II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA III. MINUTES OF MAY 7, 1979 MEETING IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS �I 7:35 A. Request for Extra Family Season Passes V. RECOMMENDATIONS AND REPORTS A. Reports of Commissioners None B. Reports of Staff 7:40 1. Topview Acres 4th Addition 8:00 2. Bids for Tree Hauling Truck 8:05 3. Ingram Property Settlement 8:15 4. Lease for Eden Prairie Stables 8:30 S. Bond Referendum Committee Report - Minutes of May 17/79 8:45 6. Annual Report 8:55 7. Restrictions on Filling of Wetlands VI. OLD BUSINESS 9:00 A. Community Service Van - Request to Lion's Club 9:15 B. Joint Master Plan Anderson Lakes Park VII. NEW BUSINESS 9:45 A. Appraisal for Milkovich's Home on Anderson Lakes C 9:55 B. Tax Forfeited Land 10:15 C. Parking Ordinance 10:30 VIII. ADJOURNMENT 4 APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL-RESOURCES COMMISSION t Monday, June 4, 1979 7:30 P.M. City Hall ; COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Richard Anderson, Chairperson; David Anderson, Steve Fifield,Robert Johnson, Robert Kruell , $ + George Tangen COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: Robert Carlson COMMISSION STAFF PRESENT: Robert Lambert, Director of Community Services r OTHERS PRESENT: Jerrold and Mary Miller, Al Dybiec, E.P. Sun; Dick Dahl , E.P. News; I. ROLL CALL The meeting was called to order by Chairperson Richard Anderson at '7:30 p.m. II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA Additions: V.A.1. Purgatory Creek--Kruell V.A.2. Super Value at Bryant Lake--Tangen V.A.3. May 31st MRPA Board & Commissioners Meeting--Dave Anderson VII.D. Railroad Hikeway/Bikeway--Kruell t MOTION: Dave Anderson moved to approve the agenda with the additions. Seconded by Steve Fifield, the motion passed unanimously. III . MINUTES OF MAY 7, 1979 MEETING Changes: Page 9, VII.E. : insert "contractor"s responsibility" Page 9, para. 2: " a representative of the committee" Page 4, B.1.a. : "determined" that the property . . . MOTION: Tangen moved, and Dave Anderson seconded the motion, to approve the minutes as ammended. Motion passed, with Fifield abstaining. IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS A. Requests for Extra Family Season Passes Lambert asked the commission for a recommendation on whether or not ; additional season passes to Riley Lake and Bryant Lake Park should be !� issued when requested, to accomodate families with more than one car or driver. R. Anderson stated that a drivers license with an Eden Prairie address should be sufficient, since residency is the only requirement for the beach pass. r" Kruell added that all of Eden Prairie has the same 55344 Zip Code, so it would be easy for the beach attendants to use. i Minutes--Parks, Recreation & approved June 4, 1979 Natural Resources Commission -2- Lambert told the commission that he would inform the beach staff that in the absence of a season pass, an,Uen Prairie drivers license will be acceptable; and next year, the department will rely entirely on the drivers license system. No action required. V. RECOMMENDATIONS AND REPORTS A. Reports of Commissioners 1. Purgatory Creek Kruell reported that last fall sone excavating was done by a city crew on Purgatory Creek immediately north of Duck Lake Trail . The excavations were piled on the banks of the creek and still have not been moved. 2. Super Value at Bryant Lake Tangen reported that about one month ago Super Value started excavating. A hilltop called " Old Baldy" was to have remained untouched and in a natural state. However, it was scalped and its top leveled. As soon as concerned neighbors alerted the city, the excavating was halted. ( They discovered that the grading plans had been changed but not approved by commissions or council . The hill is being reseeded, etc. , but irrepairable damage was done to the site. Tangen suggested that plans should be watched more closely in the future. R. Anderson asked if there were any penalties for non-compliance-- certainly the developers were in violation. Kruell felt that the incident pointed out lack of inspection and plan reviewal . He wondered if a letter of censure should be sent to the building department, since this might have been avoided with more careful procedure. Tangen added that the city, after being notified, acted as fast as possible, but the earth movers were faster. He agreed that the city might have been remiss in failing to see that the grading plan did not comply with the approved plan. Fifield pointed out that it is unfortunate that after all the time the commission spends with the developers ane staff, revising plans so they least intrude on natural sights, a "mistake" can destroy it anyway. This adds up to a lot of wasted time by the commissioners and the developers themselves. R. Anderson stated that he really beleives some of these mistakes are intentional , as a means to get past an ordinance or obstacle. Once the damage is done there is little recourse. He felt it was ironic that in the case of sewer or water hook-up, or the building of a garage, Minutes--Parks, Recreation & approved June 4, 1979 Natural Resources Commission -3- I i there always seemed to be inspectors watching it closely; yet big j. developers are given a lot of free rein. He stated that a letter would be appropriate, and wanted to find out if there was a violation of an ordinance. MOTION: Kruell moved to direct staff to check into ordinances which pertain to violation of construction permits, and bring the findings back to the commission. Johnson seconded the motion, which passed unanimously. Kruell added that it must be determined where the deficiency lies in the procedure. Tangen pointed out that the working plans had been modified, so theoretically they should have been approved by the commission and/or the council . R. Anderson agreed, suggesting that for this reason the commission should express its dismay to •the council . Fifield added that it would be wise to watch closely the restoration attempts by Super Value at the Bryant Lake site, where reseeding, etc. would be taking place. MOTION: Kruell moved that the Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources Commission advise the council that Super Value has apparently violated the grading construction plan as previously approved. The commission feels it is unfortunate that situations like this could occur, and procedures be implemented to avoid another costly lesson in the future. Dave Anderson seconded, and the motion passed unanimously. 3. MRPA Board and Commissioners Meeting Dave Anderson reported that the meeting mainly concerned legislation and the Illinois State Association. He noted that in Illinois the state organization for professionals is separate from the board and commission organization. As one group, they felt that the commissioners tend_to'.let the professionals take the lead. This way they felt they had more input. B. Reports of Staff 1. .Topview Acres 4th Addition Lambert reported that the questions raised by the commission have been answered as well as they can be at this point: 1) The trail access is planned 2) Valley View Road will be c0-de-saced 3) Edenvale East should serve as a neighborhood park to the area 4) A mini-park can be considered when the gravel pit is developed, { (probably after next year, according to the owners) He concluded that these answers seem to be favorable at this point, however, there is no guarantee that changes will not occur. Minutes--Parks, Recreation & approved June 4, 1979 Natural Resources Commission -4- Kruell asked if there was a time table for the Valley View cul- de-sac. Lambert replied that there had been some speculation, but at this time there was nothing definate. MOTION: Dave Anderson moved to recommend to the council approval of tfe Topview Acres 4th Addition, as per staff recommendations in the May 31, 1979, memorandum. Tangen seconded the motion. DISCUSSION: Jerrold Miller indicated that he may not agree with the staff recommendation requiring him to dedicate property for the trail, when there is no connection for the trail from the end of his property. Until the adjacent landowner agrees, he is not willing to dedicate that easement. Lambert explained that no development would take place until all the land for the trail is acquired. Miller indicated that he would agree in writing to dedicate the land when the city is ready to develop it. Tangen explained that he was uneasy about that type of agreement. Circumstances could change (i.e. :ownership), and documents may not be filed. Since it is possible to obtain trail easements by con- demnation, it is probable that the trail will be constructed as planned. He sympathized with Mr. Miller's concerns, but felt that any legal problems could be worked out, and the motion is correct. The council could be informed of Mr. Millers concerns. VOTE: Motion carried unanimously. 2. Bids for Tree Hauling Truck MOTION: Tangen moved to accept the bid offered by Town's Edge Ford, as recommended by the staff, for $36,202.00. Dave Anderson seconded the motion. DISCUSSION: Kruell asked several questions about the letting of bids; how many days are they open and how are they advertized? Lambert advertised in local papers for two weeks, and sent letters to five parties who had expressed interest. They received two bids. Kruell asked if the staff was aware that a company is placing adds in the local papers seeking to buy elm logs? Could the city sell the elm and use the money intended for the tree removal truck to better advantage? ( Lambert reported that he had not seen the ad, and that if the city waits any longer before taking action on the tree removal truck, it will come too late to do the job this season. t Minutes--Parks, Recreation & approved June 4, 1979 Natural Resources Commission -5- VOTE: Motion carried with Kruell voting against it. Kruell explained that he voted against it because he felt there were possibilities which had not been researched. Dave Anderson stated that Kruell should have advised the staff before the meeting and informed the commission if there were a reasonable alternative. Tangen also wished to point out that staff had pursued the purchase of a tree removal truck at the request of the commission. He felt that new options were improper at this point. 3. Ingram Property Settlement Lambert informed the commission that the settlement on the Ingram property was paid rather than risk having it taken to higher courts, and being required to pay interest during that time. This was done on the advise of two attorneys. No action required. 4. Lease for Eden Prairie Stables Lambert asked the commission to offer any changes they might like to make before taking the lease to the Metropolitan Parks and Open Space Commission and to the Hennepin County Vo-Tech School Board. Dave Anderson questioned the intent of the rent credit. Lambert explained that they will get credit:-the first year only, up to $2400.00, for repairs that they make to the property. Kruell asked if the Vo-Tech had agreed to those terms. Lambert told him that they had not seen the final draft of the lease, but they had agreed verbally. MOTION: Kruell moved that the commission recommend denial of the lease. The motion died for the lack of a second. MOTION: Tangen moved to recommend forwarding the matter to the counc 1 for action. Johnson seconded the motion, which carried , with Kruell voting nay. 5. Bond Referendum Committee Report Lambert outlined the actions the committee thought appropriate to begin their work; beginning with council appointments or approval , and formation of sub-committees. Minutes--Parks, Recreation & approved June 4, 1979 Natural Resources Commission -6- C He asked if a commissioner could be at the council meeting to present the report. The last sentence in the second paragraph was changed to read . . . "the information it would propose would be strictly a recommendation to the Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources Commission and the city council . R. Anderson indicated that he would be there at 10:00 p.m. , and Dave Anderson said he would be there a little earlier. MOTION: Tangen moved that the commission recommend to the council support of the committee report with the noted change. R. Anderson seconded the motion which passed unanimously. ¢ Chairperson R. Anderson called for a short break at 9:10 p.m. 6. Annual Report Lambert drew up an annual report for the Department of Community Services, which he felt would be beneficial in recalling actions or projects completed in 1978. Tangen commended the Director for supplying the annual report to the commission. He noted that it was very helpful , and would like to receive them in the future. ( Kruell asked if it might be appropriate to incorporate long range plans--or problem areas and unresolved items. Lambert reported that he had touched on some of these items on the final page of the report. No action required. 7. Restrictions on Filling of Wetlands Lambert presented the commission with a statement to the council , as requested by the commission, on preserving small wetlands. Kruell stated that the statement should expand on reasons of the importance of maintaining these wetlands in their natural state. MOTION: Kruell noved that the staff statement be recommended to the council with the addition of a statement incorporating the reasons for maintaining the wetlands. R. Anderson seconded the motion which passed unanimously. VI. OLD BUSINESS A. Community Services Van--Request to the Lion's Club The community services department prepared a request of the Eden Prairie Lion's Club for a van to be used in the senior citizen and teen programs. r Mi,nutes�-,Parks, Recreation & approved June 4, 1979 Natural Resources Commission -7- The Lion's Club must have the commission's support before they can consider it. Kruell asked if wheel-chair provisions might be required. Lambert told him that the fold down steps would be utilized. None of the present users are handicapped, but if necessary a lift 1:ould be utilized in the future. R. Anderson recommended that they order an extra seat in a standard size van, to accomodate as many people as possible. Lambert told him that a ten-passenger van would be the maximum, because any more passengers would require the driver to have a Class B drivers license; and since they were planning to use volunteer drivers, this limit would be considered when ordering the van. MOTION: Dave Anderson moved to reccomend to the council the the staff Fe- directed to contact the Lion's Club with their request for a van to determine the Club's possible participation. Tangen seconded, and the motion passed unanimously. B. Joint Master Plan - Anderson Lakes Park Some major concerns highlighted by Lambert were ownership, the interpre- tive center, and the use of active space. He suggested that an outside consultant may be required to determine the need for and the location of the nature center. He pointed out that the careful choice of words may determine whether the active use area would be approved--suggesting "open space" an place of "field game space would be better. Tangen asked if the city maintained ownership, who would build and operate a nature center? Lambert replied that we could apply for funds to build, but not for operation. Dave Anderson asked if it would be feasible to turn the property over, but be able to use the Gorra house for nature programs for Eden Prairie residents and schools. Lambert explained that as a regional park, the city can not have exclusive use of any part of it. If the county, as the operating agency, wished to have a nature center, they would begin with a new building. i Fifleld pointed out that originally we went of Hennepin County, seeking their help for planning the development of the park. Since they do have a great deal of expertise in park planning, it may be possible that they are right about the need for another nature center. i Tangen agreed with Fifield's point, stating that $100,000 per year for operating a nature center is a lot when the need is questionable. However, r Minutes--Parks, Recreation & approved June 4, 1979 Natural Resources Center -8- he felt the city should still try to get ownership of the hayfield along Anderson Lakes Parkway. R. Anderson pointed out that the Southwest section of the park was never intended as a play area (maybe picnics) , but rather, as a major nesting area. How it was represented on the grant application will have a lot to do with determining future use. Kruell noted that if the county planned an adequate trail system for travel through the park, it would satisfy him. R. Anderson pointed out that large numbers of people can enjoy the park if they are kept in certain areas. At the same time, the wildlife does not have to be disturbed. Tangen requested a change in the wording on page 8 of the appendix. He would like it to read "For the first few years, the Gorra residence may make an acceptable interpretive center. " "It is large enough for a temporary small museum, meeting area, office and information center." R. Anderson asked if, with council approval , negotiations could begin with Bloomington, the research on the grant application be done, and try to reach a compromise. Lambert replied that we could after the language was approved. (_ MOTION: Tangen moved to forward to the council , the proposed joint master plan as presented, with the following changer The wording on page 8 of the appendix, as noted. Also, if in negotiations, ownership of the park is not to be retained by Eden Prairie, explore the possibility of the most southerly portion of Anderson Lakes Park be retained by the City. Kruell seconded the motion. DISCUSSION: Kruell asked if admission procedures would be different if Eden Prairie owned the park as opposed to Hennepin County. He also wanted to know if an underpass crossing is planned at County Road 18. Lambert replied that admission prodedures would probably be consistent with those of other Hennepin County Parks if the county were to operate the park. The plan refers to a grade-separated crossing--which probably will be an underpass. VOTE: Motion carried unanimously. VII. NEW BUSINESS A. Appraisal for Milkovich's Home on Anderson Lake MOTION: Tangen moved to recommend that the council authorize staff to own an appraisal of the property at 9561 Timber Trail . Dave Anderson seconded, and the motion carried unanimously. I Minutes--Parks, Recreation & approved June 4, 1979 Natural Resources Commission -9- B. Tax Forfeited Land Lambert located the properties for the commission, and recommended acquisition of all five parcels. MOTION: Tangen moved to recommend that the council request that the five parcels described in the memorandum of May 31, 1979, be withheld from sale and be acquired for public park purposes. Kruell seconded, and the motion passed unanimously. C. Parking Ordinance Lambert included a copy of the City Parking Ordinance, as requested. He reported the City Planner and the Building Inspector are both doing research toward developing a somewhat stronger ordinance. R. Anderson suggested they consider parking at parks, and the parking of -� trucks. Dave Anderson noted that on-street parking of trucks should be limited, particularly in residential areas with cul-de-sacs. It was suggested to Lambert that "No Parking" signs be posted along Rowland Road, since it is not very safe, and would reduce after-hours activities in Bryant Lake Park. `�- No action required. D. Railroad Hikeway/Bikeway Kruell suggested that the staff investigate the possible acquisition or use of the old railroad corridor between Valley View Road and Duck Lake Road. He felt it would be ideal for jogging, hiking, biking, etc. VIII. ADJOURNMENT The meeting was adjourned at 10:50 p.m. Respectfully Submitted, Georgia Jessen Recording Secretary AGENDA EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION MONDAY, JUNE 18, 1979 7:30 P.M. , CITY HALL COMMISSION MEMBERS: Richard Anderson, Chairperson; David Anderson, Robert Carlson, Steve Fifield, Robert Johnson, Robert Kruell, George Tangen COMMISSION STAFF: Robert A. Lambert, Director of Community Services Approx. Time to Begin Item 7:30 I. ROLL CALL II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA 7:35 III. MINUTES OF JUNE 4, 1979 IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS None V. RECOMMENDATIONS AND REPORTS A. Reports of Commissioners None B. Reports of Staff 1. Development Proposals 7:40 a. Duck Lake Vista 8:00 b. Suburban National Bank 8:20 b. Schoenfelder PUD } 8:45 2. Round Lake Park Development - letter from J. Hanson 9:00 3. Park Bond Committee 9:15 4. Council Actions June 5, 1979 VI. OLD BUSINESS 9:25 A. Purgatory Creek Options 9:45 B. Master Plan Bryant Lake Park -2- Parks, Recreation & 6/18/79 Natural Resources Commission Agenda l VII. NEW BUSINESS 10:00 A. 1980 LAWCON Grants a. Mitchell Lake b. Purgatory Creek 10:15 B. CDBG Transfer of Funds 10:30 VIII. ADJOURNMENT l .APPROVED MINUTES EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES-COMMISSION Monday, June 18, 1979 7:30 P.M. , City Hall COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: David Anderson, Steve Fifield, Robert Johnson, Robert Kruell , George Tangen, Vice-Chairperson COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: Richard Anderson, Robert Carlson COMMISSION STAFF PRESENT: Robert Lambert, Director of Community Services OTHERS PRESENT: Frank Cardavelle, Tim Pierce, Dick Dahl , E.P. News; Al Dybiec, E.P. Sun I. ROLL CALL The meeting was called to order by Vice-chairperson George Tangen at 7:40 p.m. II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA MOTION: Dave Anderson moved to approve the agenda as published. It was seconded by Johnson, and passed unanimously. III. MINUTES OF JUNE 4, 1979, MEETING Changes: pg. 2, V.A.1. "the excavations were piled on the banks of the creek and still have not been moved." pg. 9, VII.D. "Duck Lake Road" pg. 5, para. 2, "advised the staff of the advertisement" pg. 7, VI.B. , "be able to use the Gorra house. . . residents and schools." MOTION: Dave Anderson moved to approve the minutes as revised, and Johnson seconded the motion, which passed unanimously. IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS & COMMUNICATIONS None V. RECOMMENDATIONS AND REPORTS A. Reports of Staff 1. Development Proposals a. Duck Lake Vista Tim Pierce made a brief presentation of his proposed development, reporting to the Commission his request was for 32 single family lots and no duplex lots. The rezoning had been approved by the Planning Commission. Dave Anderson asked if the school had given any specific reasons for not wanting any lots adjacent to school property. Minutes--Parks, Recreation & -approved June 18, 1979 Natural Resources Commission -2- None had been given. Mr. Cardarelle, who had done the survey work, also pointed out that all the bottom floor elevations were above the high- water mark of the existing wetland. Kruell asked what the final treatment of the wetland would be. Cardarelle reported that it is classified "Public Water", and would not be disturbed. It is surrounded by a no-cut, no-mow, area. The lot lines do extend to an area between the normal high-water mark and the extreme high-water mark. Kruell then questioned the 8' bike path referred to in the staff report--where would it go, and who was to build it? Lambert explained that it was to be built along County Road 4, ro if and when it is expanded to four lanes. Until that time, a "shoulder-trail" built by the county would be utilized. As a transportation trail , it would be the city's responsibility to build it. MOTION: Dave Anderson moved to recommend approval to the C Council of Duck Lake Vista as per the staff memorandum of June 15, 1979; with the request being changed from 30 single- family lots and two duplex lots to read 32 single family lots. Kruell seconded the motion and it passed unanimously. b. Suburban National Bank Lambert explained that this project was brought before the Commission because of it's close proximity to Anderson Lakes Park. The bank wishes to develop 2.4 acres of a 4.4 acre site, located at the north east corner of the Major Center Area. Kruell asked if, with the growth due to the Hartford development, etc. , the bike traffic wouldn't increase sufficiently to provide trails? Lambert pointed out that there's a trail system on the other side of Schooner Boulevard, and trails are important to get to the center area. However, internal trails are probably not necessary since the parking area is all paved. Kruell wanted to avoid the potential for creating traffic patterns that force people to drive, as in the Southdale area. Lambert replied that there would be no problem installing pedestrian corridors within the parking areas should it ever become necessary. At this point maintenance of trails is a genuine concern to the department, and the trail system is only beginning to develop. r Minutes--Parks, Recreation & approved June 18, 1979 Natural Resources Commission -3- MOTION: Kruell moved to reccomend to the Council approval of the proposal requested by the Suburban National Bank of Eden Prairie, as per the staff memorandum of June 15, 1979. Dave Anderson seconded the motion, which passed unanimously. c. Schoenfelder P.U.D. MOTION: Johnson moved to temporarily table this item, since they had no representative present at the time to answer questions. Fifield seconded, and the motion passed unanimously. 2. Round Lake Park Development Lambert wanted to bring the Commission up to date on the proposed development at Round Lake Park. Fifield asked where the road was to go through the park. Lambert showed him on the map attached to the memorandum, that it enters the park south of the proposed parking lot and continues along the north shore of the lake. No action required. ( 3. Park Bond Committee i Lambert reported that the council had appointed Councilperson Paul Redpath as a representative from the Council to the Park Bond Committee. Dave Anderson told the Commission that the School Board planned on making their committee assignments at the July 9, 1979, meeting, and they probably would appoint a committee representative at that time.Carolyn McNulty also offered to act as an advisor to the appropriate sub-committee, but could not committ herself to be a member of the committee. He also noted that the entire School Board wished to be notified of future committee meetings. MOTION: Johnson moved to appoint Dave Anderson as the Parks, Recreation and Natural Resources Commission Representative to the Park Bond Committee. Tangen seconded, and the motion passed unanimously. Dave Anderson accepted, stressing that each Commissioner has an interest and should attend meetings as often as possible. Wednesday, June 27, 1979, was selected as the date of the next meeting of the Park Bond Committee. They will meet at 8:00 p.m. at the City Hall . A letter will be sent to all members, to the School Board members,including the two new members, and to Carolyh McNulty. i Minutes--Parks, Recreation & approved June 18, 1979 Natural Resources Commission -4- 4. Council Actions June 5, 1979 Lambert reported the following actions taken by the Council : 1) Park Dedication Ordinance was approved. Tangen asked if the fees could be reviewed at the first meeting each year. Lambert agreed that it could, and would be done. 2) Valley View bike trail--Council felt that realistically, the aglime trail was the best alternative. They decided to do it on an experimental basis. Tangen asked where the funds were coming from. Lambert replied that the Cash Park Fees are presently the only source of funds for development. Kruell commented that if the Council were looking at idealism v.s. pragmatism, it was not pragmatic to spend money in that fashion. 3) Tree Hauling Truck--awarded bid. 4) Ingram Property Settlement--was given approval . 5) Hidden Ponds Park Site--approval was given to obtain appraisals for two sites. 6) Van request to Lion's Club from Parks, Recreation & Natural Resources Commission--given approval . 7) Lease to Vo-Tech--approved by Council . 8) Milkovich's property--approval to obtain an appraisal . 9) Slalom course on Staring Lake--denied. 10) Tax delinquent land acquisition--approved. 11) Anderson Lakes Joint Master Plan--approved language suggested by the Commission. 12) Park Bond Committee--Paul Redpath appointed as representative. No action required. MOTION: Dave Anderson moved to table the Schoenfelder P.U.D. ; Kruell seconded and the motion passed unanimously. ( A short break was called at 8:35 p.m. by Vice-chairperson Tangen. r Minutes--Parks, Recreation & approved June 18, 1979 Natural Resources Commission -5- VI. OLD BUSINESS A. Purgatory Creek Options The options for the parcels on Purgatory Creek expire on July 31, 1979. At this point, the possibility of funding through grants looks questionable. Staff intends to apply for grants, since they may recognize the value of the property along the creek. Lambert suggested that the 19 acre parcel be considered as the first priority. The property is very useable, is wooded with hardwoods, and adjacent to a park. The second parcel has several high points, which would make a nice scenic vista overlooking the creek valley--but little useable land due to the steep slopes. Dave Anderson pointed out that the Commission did not accept property that wasn't useable--even when it was given to them. With floodplain requirements and scenic easements, it doesn't seem to make as much sense to buy the property as it once did. Tangen favored renegotiating the option on the 19 acre parcel , since that land is highly useable. Lambert suggested that the option should go until December of 1980, since that is when LAWCON Grant money would become available. Kruell stated he would like to insure that something is retained along Purgatory Creek. The scenic easement helps do this. However, the 19 acre parcel helps to create public access to the corridor system and may not be compatible with the conservation of the area. The key is to find a balance between natural and active areas. He then asked if the Nature Conservancy would help with funding for the parcels. Fifield stated that they may help if they felt the project was unique, regardless of the size of the project. MOTION: Dave Anderson moved to recommend to the Council to direct i staff to contact the Bluff's Company to work out renewal of the option expiring July 31, 1979, on 19.12 acres; and that we let the option run out on the 54.43 acre site amd at some point following the expiration of the option, the staff should contact the owners for the purchase of scenic overlooks. Kruell seconded the motion for discussion. DISCUSSION: Kruell was concerned that R. Anderson had not had a chance to offer his opinion on this project, knowing that it was important to him in the past, and he has much knowledge of the history involved. Tangen offered that if the motion were passed, and he wished to offer another option, he could appear before the Council . r . Minutes--Parks, Recreation & approved June 18, 1979 Natural Resources Commission -6- It was agreed that R. Anderson should be notified if possible before the Council meeting concerning this item. i VOTE: The motion passed, with four in favor and Kruell abstaining. i B. Master Plan Bryant Lake Park Lambert presented the commission with a copy of the 1979 Bryant Lake Master Plan. It outlines developments, costs, and operations. No funding can be approved for the development of the park until a master plan is approved. Dave Anderson asked for clarification on the added expense for the entrance road. Because the more expensive route had been chosen, (approximately $12,000 more to build) was the rest of the development going to be cut by that difference? Lambert explained that the funding would cover the cost of the project--they were not working with fixed numbers. The plan is reviewed every year, since costs change rapidly. Tangen asked how complete the trails would be in 1979. Lambert relied that the trails would be graded, and the banks seeded, but the final surface will not go on the trails until 1980, when the parking lots are done. Kruell questioned the operation of the park. He reasoned that if a regional park is built with regional funding, why can't it be operated by the city with regional funds? Lambert told him that the Met Council makes no provision at this time for operation. However there may be a point when the regional park system is complete and money may be available for operations. MOTION: Dave Anderson moved to recommend to the Council approval of the j Bryant Lake Master Plan. Johnson seconded, and the motion passed unanimously. VII. NEW BUSINESS A. 1980 LAWCON Grants MOTION: Dave Anderson moved to recommend that the Council direct the staff to complete the grant applications for Mitchell Lake and Purgatory Creek, and submitt them to the appropriate agen:ies for consideration. Fifield seconded and the motion passed unanimously. B. CDBG Transfer of Funds A transfer of funds in the Community Development Block Grant will make Minutes--Parks, Recreation & approved June 18, 1979 Natural Resources Commission -7- $6,000 available for use in remodeling and construction at the Senior Citizen Center. MOTION: Dave Anderson moved to recommend to the Council approval of the transfer of funds as outlined in the staff memorandum of June 14, 1979. Johnson seconded the motion, and it passed unanimously. VIII. ADJOURNMENT The meeting was adjourned at 9:35 p.m. Respectfully Submitted, Georgia Jessen Recording Secretary C- UNAPPROVED MINTUES EDEN PRAIRIE BOND REFERENDUM COMMITTEE WEDNESDAY, JUNE 27, 1979 8:00 P.M. , FIRE STATION COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: David Anderson, Robert Johnson STAFF PRESENT: Robert A. Lambert, Director of Community Services COMMITTEE MEMBERS PRESENT: Jerry Kingrey, Jerry Wigen, Edward King, Mary Lee, Gloria Pond, Mary Upton, Sharon Levitt, Lyle Shaw i OTHERS PRESENT Dick Dahl, Eden Prairie News Lambert opened the meeting by reviewing the purpose of the committee.. 4 1. To determine what the park and recreational needs of the community are. 2. To determine the cost of providing for these needs over and above existing funding sources. 3. To set priorities of these needs. 4. To determine the amount of the referendum required to satisfy basic needs. S. If the priorities include any development on school property, we will take this information to the School Board for their review and action. 6. We will then take these recommendations to the City Council for review and final action. If at this time the City Council determines that there should be a bond referendum to provide facilities, the committee will ask the Council to set the bond referendum amount and date. 7. The committee will then make an all out effort to inform the community on these needs and priorities and the rationale for the need of a bond referendum. At this point Jerry questioned how we were going to determine these needs and if we i were going to use surveys. Jerry Kingrey commented that we had decided to eliminate surveys because we felt it would be difficult to provide an unbiased survey and that the needs should be determined by this committee, and by past and public interest as indicated to the City staff and members of the community and this committee. Election of officers was then held. Jerry Wigen and Jerry Kingrey were elected as co-chairpersons of the committee. a Sub-committees were then formed and committee members volunteered to serve on various sub-committees. Committees were established as follows: ` 1. Community Center/Arena - Chairperson Jerry Wigen. This committee will provide information on the community need for this facility. Also, on estimates of various types of buildings and costs for construction of the facilities. Also, f cost estimates on maintenance and operation of this type of facility. Where \ it will be located and who will own and operate the facility. -2- C2. Indoor Swimming Pool - Chairperson Mary Lee. This committee will contact other communities that have school/community swimming pool facilities. The committee should determine what size and type of swimming pool best serves community/school needs. Also, where this facility should be located ie. attached to the High School or perhaps within a community center. Also, who will own and operate the facility. Another member suggested for this committee was Bob Kurland. 3. Trails - It was suggested that Dave Anderson contact Al Upton to chair this committee. It was also noted that the Hikeway/Bikeway Task Force of 1975 if still in affect a standing committee within the community and members of this committee should be contacted to review the trails system plan for the City and make any recommendations if trails should be included in a proposed bond referendum. 4. Park Acquisiton and Development - Sharon Levitt Chairperson. Other members Gloria Pond, Marie Cornett, Mary Upton, Dick Anderson. This committee will review with Bob Lambert the proposed Capital Improvement Program for parks and open spaces and will suggest priorities for acquisition and development, and will determine the amount above existing funding sources that will be required to provide basic needs as determined by the sub-committee. S. Athletic Facilities - Ed King Chairperson. Other members Dave Anderson. This committee will review community needs for organized active outdoor play space including baseball, softball, soccer fields, and hockey rinks. This committee will meet with members of the Athletic Association, Hockey Association and High School Athletic Director. The members of the committee also agreed that if a bond referendum is approved by the Council all members of the committee will then work toward education of the community on these needs and priorities and will help to promote passage of a bond referendum. The next meeting was tentatively set for July 18, 1979, at City Hall Council Chambers. Bob Lambert agreed to contact Mike Bassett, Director of Parks and Recreation for the City of Apple Valley to see if he could meet with the committee to discuss "how Apple Valley did it." Bob Lambert Recording Secretary