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HomeMy WebLinkAboutParks and Recreation - 09/18/1978 1978 SEPTEMBER 18 MINUTES CITY OF EDEN PRAIRIE AGENDA EDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION C MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 18, 1978 7.30 P.M. , CITY HALL COMMISSIONV MEMBERS: Richard Anderson, Chairperson; David Anderson, Steve Fifield, William Garens, Robert Johnson, Robert Kruell, George Tangen COMMISSION STAFF: Bob Lambert, Director of Community Services Approx. Time to Begin Item 7:30 I. ROLL CALL II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA " III. MINUTES OF AUGUST 21, 1978 ` MINUTES OF AUGUST 31, 1978 IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS 7:35 A. Joint Master Plan for Anderson Lakes - Hennepin County Park Reserve Staff 8:20 B. Leaf Recycling Center - Ed.Montelean C V. RECOMMENDATIONS AND REPORTS A. Reports of Commissioners 1. B. Reports of Staff 8:35 1. Development Proposals a. Ridgewood {Vest - Centex Homes 9:00 b. Menard, Inc. 9:25 2. Tennis Court Bids - Round Lake and Prairie View 9:35 3. Policy on Tot Lots 9:50 4. Bryant Lake Park Master Plan Schedule VI. . OLD BUSINESS 10:00 A. Neighborhood Park - Homeward Hills Road 10:15 B. Cash Flow of CASH PARK FEE C. Park Use Ordinance D. Bond Issue VII. NEW BUSINESS 10:30 VIII. ADJOURNMENT APPROVED MINUTES ,FDEN PRAIRIE PARKS, RECREATION AND NATURAL RESOURCES COMMISSION I I MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 18, 1978 7:30 P.M. , CITY HALL I COMMISSION MEMBERS PRESENT: Richard Anderson, Chairperson; David Anderson, William Garens, Robert Johnson, Robert Kruell , George Tangen COMMISSION MEMBERS ABSENT: Steve Fifield OTHERS PRESENT: Ed Monteleon, Tim Eller, Mary Prochaska, Dan Johnson, Bud Kager, E. P. Sun COMMISSION STAFF: Robert Lambert, Director of Community Services I. ROLL CALL Chairman Anderson called the meeting to order at 7:30 J p.m. II. APPROVAL OF AGENDA MOTION was made by Dave Anderson and seconded by Robert Kruell to a Motion carried unanimously. approve the agenda. III. MINUTES OF AUGUST 21, 1978 - MINUTES OF AUGUST 31. 1978 On page 4 of the August 31 minutes, Robert in be inserted after the seventh paragraph ending K"and lshould be asked a included t the linwthe budget." Robert Kruell commented on the Intersession Activities budget, it will only benefit Eden Prairie School District children, but the tax source is City wide. City should be uniformly beneficial for all of the citizens rather than just soley foograms programs to accommodate one school district. MOTION was made by Bob Johnson to approve the minutes as amended. George Tangen seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. i I IV. PETITIONS, REQUESTS AND COMMUNICATIONS A. Joint Master Plan for Anderson Lakes - Hennepin Co.unty Park Reserve Staff There are about 1800 acres of land involved, with a possible 15 mile of hikeway/ bikeway trail , lake park areas. They are now trying to get this framework finalized. i The Blacklock Nature Center area is a critical issue with Eden Prairie. Eden Prairie would like to look at it as a resource oriented center, building a first class nature center. One idea was to remodel a house instead of building a whole new building for this one purpose. It was felt that the Regional Park could be managed more efficiently by one agency, a unified plan on the County level instead of each city taking on a park by itself. However, Bloomington will not give up Bush Lake Park, they will give up Tierney Wood's area and the Corridor. I a -2- Parks, Recreation & Natural approved Minutes September 18, 1978 � . Resources Commission � ., A. Joint Master Plan for Anderson Lakes - Hennepin County Park Reserve Staff J.c� Unless Eden Prairie and Bloomington and the Park Reserve agree on the plans of the lakes and parks, no more money from Metro Council will be coming in. The Metro Council is providing acquisition and development funds. The cities will have to fund operational costs with local money. MOTION was made by George Tangen that the proposed joint master plan for Hyland Lake Park Reserve, Bush Lake Park, Corridor Park, Tierney's Woods Park, and Anderson Lakes Park, revised draft of September 1978, be forwarded to the City Council of Eden Prairie for approval with the addition that on page seven, at the end of the paragraph, it read: A provision should be made to form a committee composed of residents, staff from Park Reserve District, City of Bloomington, and the City of Eden Prairie to review the planning process of the park. Dave Anderson seconded the motion and it carried 5-1 with Robert Kruell voting "nay. " V B. Leaf Recycling Center Ed Monteleon talked about the propsoed site for a leaf recycling center. Origin- ally there were two sites that were available. One site was eliminated because there would be land developments in that area in the future. The Franlo Road Park site was decided as the best choice. It covers an area of 20 acres, although because of thetopography, they would only be using 7 acres of the site. Currently they are using a 14 acre area. The site would be used during the fall and spring. There was a discussion on the possibility of instead of paying the taxes on the land, to take care of the cost of grading the land (20,000 cubic yards of dirt. ) MOTION made by Robert Kruell to recommend to the Council to .enter into an agreement with Hennepin County to exchange the use of the land for a leaf disposal site for a graded park site. The motion died due to the lack of a second. MOTION was made by William Garens to recommend to the Council that this site be used as a leaf recycling site on a renewable one year lease for up to five years. Dave Anderson seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. A ten minute break was called at 9:05 p.m. by Chairman Anderson. The meeting resumed at 9:15 p.m. V. RECOMMENDATIONS AND REPORTS B. Reports of Staff 1. Development Proposals a. Ridgewood West - Centex Homes There will be 175 lots, with two lots per acre as an average. The minimum lot size will be 13,500 sq. ft. The largest lot will be well over an acre. The closest neighborhood park will be about 3/4 to 1 mile from the development to the center of the park. -3- Parks, Recreation & Natural approved Minutes September 18, 1978 Resources Commission a. Ridgewood West - Centex Homes (con't) There was a discussion about the cash park fee, and how even though there is inflation every year, the cash park fee remains as a set price to the developers until they are finished. MOTION was made by Robert Kruell to recommend to the Council consideration of some type of clause which will apply to Ridegwood West - Centex Homes project and all future projects to have the cash park fee either escalated throughout the development or paid out front. The motion died due to lack of a second. MOTION was made by William Garens that the staff come back at the next meeting with an appropriate plan to cover the costs of inflation in our cash park fee, whether it be inflation at 10% a year, or a flat increase every year based on inflation. Dave Anderson seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. b. Menard, Inc. Marve Prochaska and Dan Johnson came to the meeting to explain and answer any questins the Commission had. The boundaries would be created by Valley View Road on the north, Highway 5 on the south, and 494 on the east. f Fifteen acres will be designated as their Retail Home Improvement Center. C The actual center will be 50,000 sq. ft. They would start work on the project in the spring of 1979. The Home Improvement Center would be the first to be built. The two major concerns of the Commission were that of the filling of the floodplain and the groups of trees that will be taken out. The view of the storage area will try to be minimized by having an eight foot high fence and also landscaping. The parking lot landscaping will be done at the time the parking lot is put in. There will not be very much fill put in the floodplain area, and what is filled will be on the eastern left edge. It was felt that the cutting down of any trees would be detrimental to the area because not only are they of great value but it is also by the road leading to the residential living areas. r Bob Lambert read the motion of the September 11 meeting of the Planning Commission regarding their changes on the project. MOTION was made by George Tangen to recommend that this proposal be denied at this time because of item 14 (that the grading plan be revised) of the Staff Planning Report and until the developer comes back with a revised plan showing the preservation of both stands of old trees. Robert Kruell seconded the motion and it carried 4-2 with William Garens and Dave Anderson voting "nay". 'Dave Anderson left the meeting at 10:30 p.m. _.. _ r -4- I Parks, Recreation & Natural approved Minutes. September 18, 1978 Resources Commission 2. Tennis Court Bids - Round Lake Park and Prairie View C The total cost for having two tennis courts put in at Round Lake and two at Prairie View would be $26,980. The Park Planner is responsible for inspecting the project, but it was thought that it may be beneficial to have the City Engineer inspect the tennis courts also. MOTION was made by William Garnes that the Commission accept the Bituminous Roadways bid on the tennis courts, and to recommend to the Council the bid of $26,980. The motion was seconded by Bob Johnson and carried unanimously. 3. Policy on Tot Lots The Council has been asking about the Tot Lots whenever a development comes in. The people in the community (in single gamily residencies) do not really feel that it is necessary. When asked how a Tot Lot would compare in size to a neighborhood park, Bob Lambert said that a Tot Lot would be about one half to one acre, where a neighborhood park may be 10 to 25 acres. He also said that anything smaller than a neighborhood park could be considered a Tot Lot. As of yet, there hasn't been anything done with a Tot Lot in the Bluffs West, 2nd Addition. MOTION was made by George Tangen to recommend to the City Council that the City only . require Tot Lots in multiple residential developments or in single family developments that are on lots less than 13.5 and have homeowners associations that will assume ownership and maintenance. The motion was seconded by Robert Kruell and passed unanimously. 4. Bryant Lake Park Master Plan Schedule Bob Lambert sent a memo to the members of the Commission showing the timetable of the Bryant Lake master plan schedule. The November 20th and December 18th meeting will be for public input to the plan. There was a question on how, when and how much advertising there should be to the public about these meetings. It was felt that since it would be placed in the newspaper a notice would not have to be sent to the individual land owners. MOTION was made by George Tangen that the Commission accept the Bryant Lake Park master plan schedule with .the addition that from January 16 to March 16 it be carried as an agenda item so that the Commission members can be aware of what is happening. Bob Johnson seconded the motion and it carried unanimously. VI. OLD BUSINESS A. Neighborhood Park - Homeward Hills Road Bud Kager talked about park sites and plans and where the proposed boundaries would be. It was expressed that the boundaries looked suitable and that although the land is mostly peat, that it is suitable for a park area. -5- Parks, Recreation & Natural approved Minutes September .18, 1978 Resources Commission A. Neighborhood Park - Homeward Hills Road (con't) This would be a desirable and very attractive park site and even though it may possibly incur more development expenses, it should be made up in land costs. The source of money would be cash park fee from several development areas. MOTION was made by George Tangen to recommend that Homeward Hi11s is acceptable as a park site. Bob Johnson seconded the motion and it passed unanimously. } There was a concern stated about the amount of erosion in the development areal due to the rain. It was felt that it would be beneficial to try and prevent any further erosion in these areas. MOTION was then made by George Tangen to continue onto the next meetings agenda the remaining items under Old Business and to adjourn the meeting. Bob Johnson seconded the motion, and it carried unanimously. The meeting adjourned at 11:30 p.m. Minutes were taken and prepared by Karen Olson. C_ F .. 7A, .. • n ..